Survival of the Human Species? Who Cares?

[Veritas Aequitas]

If you want to pick holes, say what they are.
Until then justify why you think your line of argument (naturalistic) is relevant to simplicity's POV'

I have done an in depth research into this, and roughly note;
Criticism of Naturalistic Fallacy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalis ... #Criticism

The point is you cannot just throw in your a Natural Fallacy thesis without ensuring you have covered and countered its major objections.

You are clueless.
It is my thesis, it is yours. You are making a naturalistic argument. NOW justify it.

Nope I am merely making an argument with empirical evidences and justification.

You are the one who is accusing me of making a Naturalistic Fallacy.
Point is in this case, those who blindly accused others of using a Naturalistic Fallacy are actually bankrupt of ideas.

Instead of merely throwing a term 'Naturalistic Fallacy' the onus on you is to show why the arguments [note the full range] I presented are not tenable?

You are a cluesless twat.
It's no wonder you have convinced no one. Your arguments are empty and you cannot even understand the objections.

That is your usual noise when you have don't have any substance to support your point.
In any case, I am not expecting anything of substance from you.

Btw, as a matter of advice, one should not NEVER expect anyone to agree with one's arguments, given, the state of humanity at present. Note Bhagavad Gita, 2:47 [don't expect an ignorant gnat like you to be familiar with it anyway].

If anyone ever agree with my views, that is their discretion and has nothing to do with me. If not, I don't give a damn.
My participation in this forum is merely to express and refresh my ideas. If I want real and serious feedbacks I will post in a more formal forum.

[Veritas Aequitas]

My intuition is to agree but I think I should fight this intuition because I don't want to be complacent, or biased by my personal comfort that I fear to lose.

This is the same as suggesting more of the majority of humans to be educated or be wiser [or improve their personal character] which I don't see why anyone should fear to loose any personal comfort in striving for such gains. On the contrary one may gain more personal comfort[s] with the acquisition of these new traits.

More educated the more I can see another point of view. Whatever the point of view, confirmation bias is a perennial risk to objectivity.

In whatever progressive endeavors we undertake, we must always ensure we are aware of the negative side effects, limitations and other hindrances, thereof take steps to prevent them from affecting our progress.

For example, re the Noble 8 Fold Path, for every action we take we must persistently ask 'have we taken the Right-View.'
Obviously we cannot expect perfection but continual mindfulness of the potential negatives will ensure we do take things blindly.

For example, you are at least aware of the existence of confirmation bias, as such open to the awareness to take corrective actions to prevent it, in contrast to someone who is totally ignorant of it.

[Belinda]

This is the same as suggesting more of the majority of humans to be educated or be wiser [or improve their personal character] which I don't see why anyone should fear to loose any personal comfort in striving for such gains. On the contrary one may gain more personal comfort[s] with the acquisition of these new traits.

More educated the more I can see another point of view. Whatever the point of view, confirmation bias is a perennial risk to objectivity.

In whatever progressive endeavors we undertake, we must always ensure we are aware of the negative side effects, limitations and other hindrances, thereof take steps to prevent them from affecting our progress.

For example, re the Noble 8 Fold Path, for every action we take we must persistently ask 'have we taken the Right-View.'
Obviously we cannot expect perfection but continual mindfulness of the potential negatives will ensure we do take things blindly.

For example, you are at least aware of the existence of confirmation bias, as such open to the awareness to take corrective actions to prevent it, in contrast to someone who is totally ignorant of it.

Yes. The more we understand of effects of causes the more choices(i.e. the more powerful and free) we are. Not understanding one's own weaknesses causes one to be less powerful , less free.

[Sculptor]

So who cares if humanity survives? We'll all be dead in a 100 ...? There is a jolly good set af arguments to suggest that the world would be much better off if there were no humans on it.
I'm all for that.

It's certainly true we'll all be soon dead and nothing will matter after that. Which seems to contradict your second statement of the, "world being better off." Where there is no human to care, nothing matters or is either better or worse, is it? Otherwise it sounds like nature worship or something. I really don't think the world cares.

I think whales care. Actually most of the Cetaceans are more intelligent than us.

[RCSaunders]

So who cares if humanity survives? We'll all be dead in a 100 ...? There is a jolly good set af arguments to suggest that the world would be much better off if there were no humans on it.
I'm all for that.

It's certainly true we'll all be soon dead and nothing will matter after that. Which seems to contradict your second statement of the, "world being better off." Where there is no human to care, nothing matters or is either better or worse, is it? Otherwise it sounds like nature worship or something. I really don't think the world cares.

I think whales care. Actually most of the Cetaceans are more intelligent than us.

Whoever, "us," is, if they believe that, they are right.