Puberty blockers - no parental consent.

[mickthinks]

So, with enormous effort, at last we have an explicit admission that the story in the Evening Standard is accurate.

lol you are right, this is harder work that it should be!

Yes, you have managed to get me to repeat what I said yesterday morning. Well done, but what a shame you missed it the first time!

In passing I would draw your attention to the fact that it is not in any way, shape, or form an admission that the story in the Evening Standard is accurate. I maintain that the story in the Evening Standard is not accurate because Richard Wheeler reported "White men have been urged not to “dominate” speaking slots at Labour Party conference" and that didn't happen. Richard Wheeler lied about that.

You were too gullible to apply your critical faculties to spot it then, and now for some reason you seem to have become incapable of even understanding that neither "there are too many white men putting their hands up” nor "I do not want white men to exclusively dominate" nor "I do wish to see the diversity" is urging white men to do or not do something.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

What I'm getting is, that you initially attacked the story as fake news, and have since discovered that it's true - that Mark Ferguson did stand up and say, "we've had too many contributions from white men." Why not just admit your error and apologise? Instead you persist in an impossible position. Would you like me to reproduce the several places where you said it's fake news, and that I'm gullible for listening to it? Here's just one:



Again, I ask you - are you now acknowledging that it did happen? I'd also like to know if you defend it; if you think it's a reasonable thing to say? And under what circumstances you'd say, or defend saying: "we've heard enough from black women"?

Not sure why anyone would argue about this. People say this kind of thing all the time.

Just look at this pile of dog shit. They could have said 'grammar' if the pathetic title is anything to go by, (or not, because I suspect it might have been 'created' by self-flagellating wokie fuckwits).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYZ2XoaBO2A&t=144s

The video seems kind of cute. I don't think they mean anything seriously terrible by it. Maybe some of us can be "dicks" sometimes. It just means some of us have to make more effort to be considerate and kind towards others.

At no point does it say 'some'. Just replace the word 'white' with 'black' then and see how long this 'kinda cute' video would last on Youtube.
I realise that you think that apologising to the point of OCD makes you an especially 'nice' person, but I have news for you. You really aren't that 'nice'.

[Vitruvius]

So, with enormous effort, at last we have an explicit admission that the story in the Evening Standard is accurate.

lol you are right, this is harder work that it should be!

Yes, you have managed to get me to repeat what I said yesterday morning. Well done, but what a shame you missed it the first time!

I didn't miss it. I asked for clarification of the understated change of tack - from "fake news, and you're an idiot" to seemingly acknowledging it happened. I couldn't know whether you were just speaking to the arguments, as if it happened, or speaking to the events. Of course, if you were a man - you'd have taken responsibility for your error and apologised, and then there wouldn't have been any doubt. Instead you attempted to perform a 180' u-turn unnoticed.

In passing I would draw your attention to the fact that it is not in any way, shape, or form an admission that the story in the Evening Standard is accurate. I maintain that the story in the Evening Standard is not accurate because Richard Wheeler reported "White men have been urged not to “dominate” speaking slots at Labour Party conference" and that didn't happen. Richard Wheeler lied about that.

In passing? We're not done. Because now you're denying it again. As a typical example of a Labour Party supporter, who leapt to their defence with accusation of fake news - you're losing them votes by the second. You're not honest or straight forward. You can't take responsibility. You know full well that politically correct dogma has your party by the balls - or would have, if they still had balls. Unfortunately they had them removed as virtue signal against toxic masculinity!

You were too gullible to apply your critical faculties to spot it then, and now for some reason you seem to have become incapable of even understanding that neither "there are too many white men putting their hands up” nor "I do not want white men to exclusively dominate" nor "I do wish to see the diversity" is urging white men to do or not do something.

Can you not not see what fey, dishonest, weak pathetic creature you've become - and are not ashamed of that, or is it just the being white thing?

[mickthinks]

Let me spell it out for you in bullet points. Maybe that'll help ...

• Richard Wheeler reported "White men have been urged not to dominate speaking slots at Labour Party conference" and that didn't happen.
• "There are too many white men putting their hands up” is not urging white men to do or not do something.
• "I do not want white men to exclusively dominate" is not urging white men to do or not do something.
• "I do wish to see the diversity" is not urging white men to do or not do something.

[Vitruvius]

Let me spell it out for you in bullet points. Maybe that'll help ...

• Richard Wheeler reported "White men have been urged not to dominate speaking slots at Labour Party conference" and that didn't happen.
• "There are too many white men putting their hands up” is not urging white men to do or not do something.
• "I do not want white men to exclusively dominate" is not urging white men to do or not do something.
• "I do wish to see the diversity" is not urging white men to do or not do something.

That is very helpful, thank you. It helps in that it shows you are seeking to avoid the issue by claiming that the headline: "White men have been urged not dominate slots at the Labour Party conference" is not a reasonable characterisation of and an event that did in fact happen. Mark Ferguson did stand up and say: "There are too many white men putting their hands up.” My concern is not with how this has been reported. I'm glad we've cleared that up! My concern is how you justify being racist against white people, and sexist toward men; and the effect this has in society, and in politics.

Putting aside the blatant hypocrisy of discriminating on the basis of arbitrary characteristics; this is not the party my grandfathers built to represent my working class interests, relative to capital - which is governing essentially unopposed because Labour have become unelectable. What you fail to appreciate; even after brexit and the disastrous 2019 election, is that working class people are essentially patriotic. You POMO PC idiots hate everything about us; and are not shy about making that known. Have you read 'Despised' by Paul Embry? 'Why the modern left loathes the working class.' I don't think it goes far enough, but you should read it; because until Labour respond to that argument, Labour's electoral chances are slim to none, and the working class will remain unrepresented.

I'm also still waiting on that apology.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Let me spell it out for you in bullet points. Maybe that'll help ...

• Richard Wheeler reported "White men have been urged not to dominate speaking slots at Labour Party conference" and that didn't happen.
• "There are too many white men putting their hands up” is not urging white men to do or not do something.
• "I do not want white men to exclusively dominate" is not urging white men to do or not do something.
• "I do wish to see the diversity" is not urging white men to do or not do something.

Further proof that wokies are truly the shittiest of racists in their own nauseatingly condescending way.

[Belinda]

Let me spell it out for you in bullet points. Maybe that'll help ...

• Richard Wheeler reported "White men have been urged not to dominate speaking slots at Labour Party conference" and that didn't happen.
• "There are too many white men putting their hands up” is not urging white men to do or not do something.
• "I do not want white men to exclusively dominate" is not urging white men to do or not do something.
• "I do wish to see the diversity" is not urging white men to do or not do something.

Further proof that wokies are truly the shittiest of racists in their own nauseatingly condescending way.

What would you rather have?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Let me spell it out for you in bullet points. Maybe that'll help ...

• Richard Wheeler reported "White men have been urged not to dominate speaking slots at Labour Party conference" and that didn't happen.
• "There are too many white men putting their hands up” is not urging white men to do or not do something.
• "I do not want white men to exclusively dominate" is not urging white men to do or not do something.
• "I do wish to see the diversity" is not urging white men to do or not do something.

Further proof that wokies are truly the shittiest of racists in their own nauseatingly condescending way.

What would you rather have?

What do you mean 'have'?

[Gary Childress]

Not sure why anyone would argue about this. People say this kind of thing all the time.

Just look at this pile of dog shit. They could have said 'grammar' if the pathetic title is anything to go by, (or not, because I suspect it might have been 'created' by self-flagellating wokie fuckwits).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYZ2XoaBO2A&t=144s

The video seems kind of cute. I don't think they mean anything seriously terrible by it. Maybe some of us can be "dicks" sometimes. It just means some of us have to make more effort to be considerate and kind towards others.

At no point does it say 'some'. Just replace the word 'white' with 'black' then and see how long this 'kinda cute' video would last on Youtube.
I realise that you think that apologising to the point of OCD makes you an especially 'nice' person, but I have news for you. You really aren't that 'nice'.

Nice: Middle English (in the sense ‘stupid’): from Old French, from Latin nescius ‘ignorant’, from nescire ‘not know’. Other early senses included ‘coy, reserved’, giving rise to ‘fastidious, scrupulous’: this led both to the sense ‘fine, subtle’ (regarded by some as the ‘correct’ sense), and to the main current senses.

There's an interesting etymology behind the word, "nice."

[Vitruvius]

David Walliams: 'Harmful' Chinese character removed from children's book

A David Walliams story about a Chinese boy is to be removed from one of his children's books after criticism that it contained "harmful stereotypes".

A new edition of The World's Worst Children will be released next year without the story Brian Wong, Who Was Never, Ever Wrong. The move comes after podcaster Georgie Ma complained the book was "normalising jokes on minorities from a young age". After meeting Ma, its publishers confirmed the story would be replaced.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58786769

This story relates to this video:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Ge ... &FORM=VIRE

What's interesting about the video is that the supposed harm is not specified. It relies entirely on assumptions inherent to politically correct dogma; that are in my view, profoundly mistaken.

In my view, stereotypes help children navigate the world - and what the PC culture vandals are doing, is removing all the sign posts. The book is intended to be humorous. I cannot vouch for that, and we must be careful about what assumptions we make! What's not in doubt is what a po faced humourless troll Georgie Ma is, as are all PC culture vandals who mistake political correctness for a having a personality. It's unsurprising that the alleged humour was lost on her.

Removing all the 'stereotypical' sign posts, obviously plays into gender dysphoria; with strong male role models in particular being effaced. This is a recognizable harm - I imagine, PC vandals like Ma celebrate under the banner of diversity.

[Immanuel Can]

...all PC culture vandals who mistake political correctness for a having a personality. It's unsurprising that the alleged humour was lost on her.

It's ironic: it used to be that the more conservative elements were mocked for being slaves to tradition, for being repressed, possessed of too fierce a rectitude, for being sanctimonious and lacking self-awareness, and for being humourless. It was often remarked that the Right took themselves far too seriously, were too narrow and devoid of vitality, and were fools of ideology. The conservatives, it was said, were "just no fun."

Now, it's the Left that owns all those qualities. They're even more stone-faced, miserable, petty and crabbed than the conservatives they formerly mocked. And today, it seems that the conservatives are the only ones who have irony, self-reflective distance and humour.

How the worm turns.

[Vitruvius]

...all PC culture vandals who mistake political correctness for a having a personality. It's unsurprising that the alleged humour was lost on her.

It's ironic: it used to be that the more conservative elements were mocked for being slaves to tradition, for being repressed, possessed of too fierce a rectitude, for being sanctimonious and lacking self-awareness, and for being humourless. It was often remarked that the Right took themselves far too seriously, were too narrow and devoid of vitality, and were fools of ideology. The conservatives, it was said, were "just no fun."

Now, it's the Left that owns all those qualities. They're even more stone-faced, miserable, petty and crabbed than the conservatives they formerly mocked. And today, it seems that the conservatives are the only ones who have irony, self-reflective distance and humour.

How the worm turns.

Identity politics is a humourless game. It must be that, surely - because the right have given up identity politics, while the left have taken it up, inverted in a post modern, neo marxist attack on the supposed white male patriarchy. That casts pc culture vandals like Georgie Ma as the neo Mary Whitehouse; you may not be aware if you're a yankie doodle, she led a right wing campaign against profanity on TV in Britain back in the day.

Dear BBC,

I was shocked when switching on my television last night to hear nineteen bastards, and almost as many fucks! Is this public service broadcasting? I think not!

Mrs Whitehouse, Kent!

[Immanuel Can]

...if you're a yankie doodle,...

I'm not.

... she led a right wing campaign against profanity on TV in Britain back in the day....Mrs Whitehouse, Kent!

However, profanity isn't a sign of freedom, as the Left once maintained...it's usually just a signal of a small vocabulary and a limited mind. And we now see how limited that mind really was.

[Vitruvius]

...if you're a yankie doodle,...

I'm not.

Really? I had you down as someone who'd never been beyond the edge of the swamp and only ever read the Bhaaaable!

... she led a right wing campaign against profanity on TV in Britain back in the day....Mrs Whitehouse, Kent!

However, profanity isn't a sign of freedom, as the Left once maintained...it's usually just a signal of a small vocabulary and a limited mind. And we now see how limited that mind really was.

profane (adj.)

mid-15c., prophane, "un-ecclesiastical, secular, not devoted to sacred purposes, unhallowed," from Old French prophane, profane (12c.) and directly from Latin profanus (in Medieval Latin often prophanus) "unholy, not sacred, not consecrated;" of persons "not initiated" (whence, in Late Latin, "ignorant, unlearned"), also "wicked, impious."

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Let me spell it out for you in bullet points. Maybe that'll help ...

• Richard Wheeler reported "White men have been urged not to dominate speaking slots at Labour Party conference" and that didn't happen.
• "There are too many white men putting their hands up” is not urging white men to do or not do something.
• "I do not want white men to exclusively dominate" is not urging white men to do or not do something.
• "I do wish to see the diversity" is not urging white men to do or not do something.

Further proof that wokies are truly the shittiest of racists in their own nauseatingly condescending way.

What would you rather have?

What would YOU have? I couldn't give a rat's flying arse what degree of melanin a person has as long as they are qualified and hold my interest.
I have been around a while and had many dealings with plumbers, and I don't think I have ever encountered a plumber who wasn't a 'white male'. Ditto electricians. I am sure there must be Chinese plumbers in China, but I have never encountered one here. On the other hand, doctors and surgeons I have had dealings with have been every colour of the human spectrum, and probably a 50/50 male to female ratio, with, possibly, 'white males' being in the minority (would you like quotas for them in the medical profession?) I would avoid any doctor that I knew came from a 'quota group' (a group where there was a lower pass rate in order to 'bulk up numbers') because there would be no way of knowing if they had passed on their own merits or been 'pitchforked through' to boost numbers.
I also like to watch the Olympics. I've yet to see a medal winning male black weightlifter or hammer thrower (but I'm sure they exist), while many of the athletics sports are dominated by black people. Should we have quotas there? And what about countries? Shouldn't a country like Iceland be forced to have a quota system, because it's 'too white'?