Imperefct God

[RCSaunders]

It is a dangerous and difficult world to live and succeed in, absolutely ruthless and unforgiving, but it is a world of infinite potential and possibility and it is that world which I would not change.

Agreed... although I wish it were a bit kinder. Still, as I've shared, I've had experiences of sensing a beauty and perfection underlying all the surface drama. It may be difficult to accept and reconcile that with all the horrors we can see. But, to me, it suggests how much bigger things could be. The human experience feels very personal and serious. Perhaps that's the point of it. When we combine that with a vast landscape of potential, what can/will we create?

It is intended to be kind, though it may not seem so. It might seem kinder to paint a prettier picture, but that would be deceptive. The world is difficult and life is tough, but that is also what makes it worth living. One cannot have much sense of achievement or victory if everything is nice and easy. The best things are always the most difficult and dangerous, but also the most rewarding. Most people are just willing to settle for less than the best and then spend their lives wondering why their lives seem so disappointing.

[Dontaskme]

Life makes me sick, I think it's the most foul and disgusting event to have ever manifested into being. I'm being 100% honest about that. Why can't you just accept my honesty, and stop fighting with it. Fighting with it, will do nothing to change my view, nothing at all.

So... as presented by you... you are just walking along, minding your own business (on a public forum), offering your honest perspective -- and the offering of my honest perspective is perceived by you as "fighting with you". How rude and pointless of me to challenge anything you say! Interesting.

You Lacewing can spend the rest of your life challenging my views if that's what turns you on, but nothing you say to me, will make any difference to my opinion.

That's not the goal. Are you trying to change people's opinions when you express yours? Or are you pointing out what you see as absurdities and lies in the things people claim?

try to refrain from your good intentions to fix a broken world by sugar coating it with your flowery love sprinkles

That's not what I'm doing. Try to refrain from projecting and distorting. Really... just try.

I have never once said my perspective is the only one, or that it applies to everyone else.

If you are reporting what you see... and you claim that other people are stupid if they don't "admit the obvious" that you see... then you are applying what you see to everyone else.

Just to remind you, I do speak mostly from a nondual context, but sometimes, I also speak from the dream of separation perspective, and so if my writings ..( views) appear to you as one big muddled jumbled up mess, then you would be right to take that stance.

Yes, I've pointed out how that may be serving you.

That said, if you really understood the concept of NONDUALITY, then you may just be able to glean a little sense out of my writings.

I do understand it. We've talked about it. But I suppose you'd like to believe that it's my lack of understanding which explains the reason your claims are absurd at times (even by your own standards).

In other worlds I do not think you and I sing from the same page. And that's fine, I have no hard feelings toward you as a person. We are just very different in our views that's all.

I don't have any hard feelings toward you either. It's nothing personal. You simply offer a boatload of convoluted and melodramatic claims to respond to, if one is in the mood to challenge and play with such things. Why wouldn't you expect this on a forum, where you respond in the same way to other people?

Are you aware of the difference in standards that you want for yourself and others?

Try to refrain from projecting and distorting. Really... just try


Life sucks in my humble opinion, nothing you say to challenge that view will make any difference…deal with it or shut the fuck up you squawking demented lunatic.

[Lacewing]

Life sucks in my humble opinion, nothing you say to challenge that view will make any difference

You really don't get it. This is not about changing your stupid-ass view which you can keep and suck on, all you want. This is about pointing out how full of shit you are, based on your own contradictions... which everyone is free to have fun commenting on because you're on a public forum. It's entertainment... nobody is trying to save you (don't flatter yourself).

squawking demented lunatic

That describes you perfectly.

[Dubious]

I find this nauseating since there is a multitude of things in the world which desperately require change, but in your perennial condition of self-satisfaction why change anything in the world which allowed you to prosper and be happy!

Because changing things is how a human being is happy in this world. It is only by doing all one can to be and achieve all they can that successful human life is possible. Every bit of work one does to provide a service or product of value to one's self or others is the only kind of, "changing things," that is of any value to anyone.

Unfortunately most people think changing things means changing others, changing "society," or, "the political system," or getting the right laws passed and programs put over or attempting to make others think and behave they way they would like.

The world and others are not yours or mine to make what we would like them to be. The material world is the raw material available to all human beings. It is a dangerous and difficult world to live and succeed in, absolutely ruthless and unforgiving, but it is a world of infinite potential and possibility and it is that world which I would not change. No matter how difficult or costly it is, because the joy of life is worth any price. How others choose to live their lives is not my business, and most choose to squander their lives pursuing ideologies and political solutions, comfort, safety, and insipid pleasures that cannot possibly satisfy a human nature, which only make themselves unhappy and produce all the things about the world you don't like, like war, oppression, poverty, and terrorism.

If you really want to change the world, learn to live your own life in way that makes you a totally productive, happy, successful human being. If everyone did that, all the problems you see would be solved.

This is as cliché ridden, unthinking and Pollyannaish as anything I've read. I don't know on what remote island you live but things are actually getting worse in the world with each year. A deteriorating climate on its own causing major ramifications in its wake is enough to ponder how many humans and animals will still remain in 100 years and beyond with major demonstrations of such already occurring.

I don't know how old you are, but we have long ceased to live in a Horatio Alger world.

[Dontaskme]

Life sucks in my humble opinion, nothing you say to challenge that view will make any difference

You really don't get it. This is not about changing your stupid-ass view which you can keep and suck on, all you want. This is about pointing out how full of shit you are, based on your own contradictions... which everyone is free to have fun commenting on because you're on a public forum. It's entertainment... nobody is trying to save you (don't flatter yourself).

squawking demented lunatic

That describes you perfectly.

People suck.

Who find it entertaining to point out on public forum how full of shit people are.

Yep, we’re in agreement that people are full of shit, and that’s another reason why life sucks.

Why don’t you just admit that life sucks instead of burying your head in the rainbow coloured sugar sprinkles.

When you do eventually come up for some air, try to show some respect for natures carnage. And be aware..She’s not for turning.

Thanks for all your epic condescending counter attacks mrs trunchbull.


Your on a winning streak, don’t give up, the entertainment is just starting to heat up nicely. Your on fire lately. I hope you are enjoying this hell hole as much as I am.

[RCSaunders]

I don't know how old you are, but we have long ceased to live in a Horatio Alger world.

Exactly my point!

[Dubious]

I don't know how old you are, but we have long ceased to live in a Horatio Alger world.

Exactly my point!

Certainly not based on what you wrote.

[Lacewing]

Why don’t you just admit that life sucks instead of burying your head in the rainbow coloured sugar sprinkles.

Why don't you snort a bunch of rainbow coloured sugar sprinkles and lighten up?

Don't you know better than to take life and everything so seriously?

[RCSaunders]

I don't know how old you are, but we have long ceased to live in a Horatio Alger world.

Exactly my point!

Certainly not based on what you wrote.

It doesn't matter that you don't understand or agree with it, it is exactly what I meant.

The world itself has always been the world of infinite opportunity and possibility for those who chose to use it. Most don't, because the world is ruthless and demanding and most people choose to deny it and seek short cuts to success and easy answers provided by their ideologies. Most people live in denial of the demands of reality and wonder why their lives are such disasters and blame everything in the world, society, or culture, or their genetics, or circumstances, or others for their problems and unhappiness, when the cause of all their problems are their own chosen actions.

Quite frankly, I see no reason to want to save most of what is referred to as mankind or humanity. If it needs saving, it's doomed. Why would you choose to be part of it?

[Dontaskme]

Exactly my point!

Certainly not based on what you wrote.

It doesn't matter that you don't understand or agree with it, it is exactly what I meant.

The world itself has always been the world of infinite opportunity and possibility for those who chose to use it. Most don't, because the world is ruthless and demanding and most people choose to deny it and seek short cuts to success and easy answers provided by their ideologies. Most people live in denial of the demands of reality and wonder why their lives are such disasters and blame everything in the world, society, or culture, or their genetics, or circumstances, or others for their problems and unhappiness, when the cause of all their problems are their own chosen actions.

Quite frankly, I see no reason to want to save most of what is referred to as mankind or humanity. If it needs saving, it's doomed. Why would you choose to be part of it?

Another persons mind is a terrible place to be the source of one’s happiness ~ Arthur Schopenhauer

It’s a peaceful place so it looks from space. A closer look reveals the human race.

I am grateful that some people say honestly how life really is.


Some people are just in denial and are the worse kind imaginable as they endorse and force with intent by imposing the suffering on another who has no need for it…..NO ONE has the right to tell others that the price is worth it.

[Lacewing]

I am grateful that some people say honestly how life really is.

As long as it agrees with you.

[Atla]

Exactly my point!

Certainly not based on what you wrote.

It doesn't matter that you don't understand or agree with it, it is exactly what I meant.

The world itself has always been the world of infinite opportunity and possibility for those who chose to use it. Most don't, because the world is ruthless and demanding and most people choose to deny it and seek short cuts to success and easy answers provided by their ideologies. Most people live in denial of the demands of reality and wonder why their lives are such disasters and blame everything in the world, society, or culture, or their genetics, or circumstances, or others for their problems and unhappiness, when the cause of all their problems are their own chosen actions.

Quite frankly, I see no reason to want to save most of what is referred to as mankind or humanity. If it needs saving, it's doomed. Why would you choose to be part of it?

Are you trying to teach that your path of willful ignorance and no care about the world is the right one, or are you trying to convince yourself? That's no real happiness to many people.

[RCSaunders]

NO ONE has the right to tell others that the price is worth it.

It is worth the price, but you are right. Whether anyone else is willing to pay the price or not is no one else's business.

Most of the misery in the world is because most people think they can get away with a successful life without paying the price, then blame everything in the world for their problems when they find out they can't cheat reality.

[RCSaunders]

Certainly not based on what you wrote.

It doesn't matter that you don't understand or agree with it, it is exactly what I meant.

The world itself has always been the world of infinite opportunity and possibility for those who chose to use it. Most don't, because the world is ruthless and demanding and most people choose to deny it and seek short cuts to success and easy answers provided by their ideologies. Most people live in denial of the demands of reality and wonder why their lives are such disasters and blame everything in the world, society, or culture, or their genetics, or circumstances, or others for their problems and unhappiness, when the cause of all their problems are their own chosen actions.

Quite frankly, I see no reason to want to save most of what is referred to as mankind or humanity. If it needs saving, it's doomed. Why would you choose to be part of it?

Are you trying to teach that your path of willful ignorance and no care about the world is the right one, or are you trying to convince yourself? That's no real happiness to many people.

No!

[Dubious]

Exactly my point!

Certainly not based on what you wrote.

It doesn't matter that you don't understand or agree with it, it is exactly what I meant.

The world itself has always been the world of infinite opportunity and possibility for those who chose to use it. Most don't, because the world is ruthless and demanding and most people choose to deny it and seek short cuts to success and easy answers provided by their ideologies. Most people live in denial of the demands of reality and wonder why their lives are such disasters and blame everything in the world, society, or culture, or their genetics, or circumstances, or others for their problems and unhappiness, when the cause of all their problems are their own chosen actions.

Quite frankly, I see no reason to want to save most of what is referred to as mankind or humanity. If it needs saving, it's doomed. Why would you choose to be part of it?

It depends a great deal if people are even in a position to live up to your cliché formula for success and happiness. For mucho millions, if not billions, choosing an option isn't even optional. Obviously there is some truth in what you say which has been incessantly repeated for I don't know how long, but to define it into some fixed principle is completely naive; it shows someone who judges or misjudges others based ONLY on his own experience which, btw, could have been disrupted in any number of ways as often happens. The world is much more complicated and now much more dangerous than it ever was. Your old chicken soup story of success doesn't cut it anymore.