Imperefct God

[Dontaskme]

The best authority we have at this present time is the United Nations.

Then there is no hope and the world is doomed to perpetual war and oppression, which is exactly what an ignorant and superstitious race deserves. Reality will have justice.

There is no hope for any independant thinking organism because a thinking organism is a danger to itself. Identification with thought is what creates an artificially formed separation between man and the rest of nature..Only a thinking organism can be at war with itself, because the separation is seen as a threat, albeit illusory, yet at the same time there is an energy that is strongly opposed to the illusion as that too is seen as a threat,which is another form of war... a thinking mind will always be in opposition to itself and others, it's a mental problem, and that's why the thinking organism that is the human mind is doomed. And that's why the race is on to build AI robots that will replace us, so that nature can continue to save all it's data to date. Nature is responsible for everything, nature is a bizarre phenonmena, I mean it's not difficult to accept that nature is a freak show, you've only got to look at the period in time when dinosaurs were ripping each others guts out. They lasted millions and millions of years because they didn't have a mind like we do, there was no way they could press the red button so to speak. A big giant rock had to come and wipe them out. Imagine that, killer rocks now, yes, nature is a weirdo.

You'll probably bash me for saying that, but hey ho, nothing changes when it comes to the true nature of what is known as the human species.

[Greatest I am]

You have me curious.

What does "accepted by god" mean, and how do you know you have even been accepted or acknowledged by a being higher than yourself?

Why were you rejected?

That is a hard questions that I face when I give my claim of apotheosis and salvation by the Gnostic Christians Jesus.

Regards
DL

I didn't mean accepted by God, or being higher than me.

I meant from the previous posts saying - "Why? Can you accept an imperfect God, like those in Greek mytholgy?"

If some bloke came and wanted to be a God, then someone has to accept him as a God or reject, not necessarily me or some other higher being.
Nothing to do with me at all.

I though you said you had been rejected.

Thanks though.

Nice to know that you were not born in sin the way scriptures say you were.

I proudly say, I sure was.

Perfect, just as god intended.

Regards
DL

[Greatest I am]

I myself believe Xianity is better than Islam or communism, but I am in no way an authority.

Where do you live?

Who is denying you your adult birth rite of self authority?

Regards
DL

[Greatest I am]

]Mankind refuses to learn

I agree.

Who creates all these/we dimwits?

Bring it here so that I might destroy the incompetent piece of garbage god.

I hope it is the genocidal twins, Yahweh and Jesus.

I have a few words for them and hope words can kill.

Regards
DL

[gaffo]

I listen to my inner vioce - my conscience - and if God gave me that as an Atheist, great - or if via evolution equally geat - i hav it ither way. thank your God.

Well, I agree...God gave all men (and women) a conscience. They know what's right and wrong, even when they pretend they don't. And any ideology, even Evolutionism, is not able to shut that down completely. Unfortunately, it can cripple and warp it, in those who respond to their ideology instead of to conscience. And yes, I'm very glad some people don't do that.

I agree fully and even Christians - like that spanish guy 500 yr go was able to shut down his inner vioce even though a Christian! - but he is in your camp not mine - so your problem.

-------however i agree with all your said above

[gaffo]

you cna just deny they were "Real" theists all you want

I don't have to. Christ denies that they are His. I just take His word for that.

thats the easy way out.

like the Baptists "once saved allways saved and some "perfect Chrsitian live the perfect life unitl he reachs 80 - the rapes a few kids..........then all of the suppudn the Baptists claimed "well he was never saved in the first place - since their dogma demands no backsliding) - the pus way.

so what dos your dogma demand from you per this topic?

[RCSaunders]

The best authority we have at this present time is the United Nations.

Then there is no hope and the world is doomed to perpetual war and oppression, which is exactly what an ignorant and superstitious race deserves. Reality will have justice.

There is no hope for any independant thinking organism because a thinking organism is a danger to itself. Identification with thought is what creates an artificially formed separation between man and the rest of nature..Only a thinking organism can be at war with itself, because the separation is seen as a threat, albeit illusory, yet at the same time there is an energy that is strongly opposed to the illusion as that too is seen as a threat,which is another form of war... a thinking mind will always be in opposition to itself and others, it's a mental problem, and that's why the thinking organism that is the human mind is doomed. And that's why the race is on to build AI robots that will replace us, so that nature can continue to save all it's data to date. Nature is responsible for everything, nature is a bizarre phenonmena, I mean it's not difficult to accept that nature is a freak show, you've only got to look at the period in time when dinosaurs were ripping each others guts out. They lasted millions and millions of years because they didn't have a mind like we do, there was no way they could press the red button so to speak. A big giant rock had to come and wipe them out. Imagine that, killer rocks now, yes, nature is a weirdo.

You'll probably bash me for saying that, but hey ho, nothing changes when it comes to the true nature of what is known as the human species.

Good grief, I don't bash people no matter how much I might disagree with them.

First of all, there are very few, "independant thinking organism." including most human beings. Mencken was right, "The average man never really thinks from end to end of his life. The mental activity of such people is only a mouthing of cliches. What they mistake for thought is simply a repetition of what they have heard. My guess is that well over 80 percent of the human race goes through life without having a single original thought." I just think his estimate was low.

Most human beings do not think, they simply believe whatever their authorities teachers, preachers, and politicians have told them. Mencken got that right too: "The costliest of all follies is to believe passionately in the palpably not true. It is the chief occupation of mankind."

It is only the rare few who have embraced reality for what it is and are willing to learn what must be learned and do the work that must be done that truly live and enjoy their life, and are usually despised for it. As for the rest--meh!

Nature is not a freak show. A freak is something that does not turn out right. Anyone who says that about nature has an unreal view of what nature is supposed to be. But it is nature that determines what is supposed to be and it is those who live in defiance of the requirements of nature, especially the requirements of their own nature to learn, think, work, and produce what their life requires to succeed and enjoy their life, that despise reality and the truth that describes it.

So we don't agree. I could not be enjoying my life more and would not change a thing about it or the world I live in if I could. It was what I know about the world that makes that possible.

What do your views of the world do for you? If they do not make you able to live and enjoy life, perhaps you are mistaken.

[Dubious]

I could not be enjoying my life more and would not change a thing about it or the world I live in if I could.

Amazing you can't even see the contradiction! You note Mencken as saying, the average man never really thinks from end to end of his life and yet you claim I could not be enjoying my life more and would not change a thing about it or the world I live in if I could making this the best possible world as far as you're personally concerned! It's the default conclusion of the many millions like you who in their enjoyment of life avoid any mental inclination to examine it further.

You have much more in common with Mencken's average man definition than you suppose, whose main problem may be a series of golf handicaps.

As long as I'm doing fine and enjoying life...

God's in his heaven—
All's right with the world!

Among the majority of humans, this kind of nonchalance amounting to hypocrisy resolves to being a Categorical Imperative.

[Dontaskme]

So we don't agree. I could not be enjoying my life more and would not change a thing about it or the world I live in if I could. It was what I know about the world that makes that possible.

What do your views of the world do for you? If they do not make you able to live and enjoy life, perhaps you are mistaken.

Personally, I've hated pretty much every year I have been alive, I've only ever pretended to be ok with it. I very much look forward to the time when my body dies and I am no longer alive anymore having to live in this cesspool of an existence. I've always been a brutally honest person and sometimes that has got me into some trouble. I wasn't ever afraid to be honest, but I soon discovered that my honesty made other people feel uncomfortable, other people would dislike me. But that was fine by me, because I never had any problem with my own company, I always faired better alone, than I did when I was with others.

I'm happy to wait for nature to take it's death course on me, as I hate the thought of self-harm, I've never self-harmed myself, and wouldn't dream of it. So for me, the only good thing about being alive, is knowing that it will one day end, and hopefully I will never have to live this experience ever again. But then, as long as the human race continue to breed, who knows who will spawn next...and that's another thing I hate about life...the thought of being born in a country like Afganistan, or North Korea, or America...It's all so gross to think about. So in reality there is nothing I can do about being born, it is what it is, I'm comfortably numb about it, what choice do I have but to endure it. I used to think that life was a beautiful miracle, an experience that was well worth the price of admission, but then I instinctively knew I was only deluding and forcing myself to take that view. So one day I just decided to surrender to my real feelings and stopped pretending. That's when I just decided to accept reality for what it actually is, and not what I wishfully painted it to be. I then totally let go, and surrended, in other words I died. I'm now in heaven, and I feel pretty much ok, my life turned out to have a happy ending all in all.



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[Belinda]

I myself believe Xianity is better than Islam or communism, but I am in no way an authority.

Where do you live?

Who is denying you your adult birth rite of self authority?

Regards
DL

I am partial to the authority of Academia. Academia has warned me to be sceptical about everything including Academia.

[RCSaunders]

I could not be enjoying my life more and would not change a thing about it or the world I live in if I could.

Amazing you can't even see the contradiction! You note Mencken as saying, the average man never really thinks from end to end of his life and yet you claim I could not be enjoying my life more and would not change a thing about it or the world I live in if I could making this the best possible world as far as you're personally concerned! It's the default conclusion of the many millions like you who in their enjoyment of life avoid any mental inclination to examine it further.

You have much more in common with Mencken's average man definition than you suppose, whose main problem may be a series of golf handicaps.

As long as I'm doing fine and enjoying life...

God's in his heaven—
All's right with the world!

Among the majority of humans, this kind of nonchalance amounting to hypocrisy resolves to being a Categorical Imperative.

I cannot be happy about anyone whose life is such a failure they resent the success of others. I'm sorry if you do not like reality and have not found life satisfying. It cannot be satisfying while evading reality's requirements to learn all one can possibly learn and working to produce all a human life requires in this world to live successfully and happily. Life is not easy and can be neither successful or satisfying except by constant effort, willingly facing every challenge and risk because only that kind of life is worth living, a life of continuous hard work, learning, adventure and discovery, but only available to those willing to pay the price. You do have to, "earn," it.

Apparently you are not willing to do that.

Since you know nothing about what I think and believe, please review, especially the links to my views, "What I Don't Believe."

[RCSaunders]

So we don't agree. I could not be enjoying my life more and would not change a thing about it or the world I live in if I could. It was what I know about the world that makes that possible.

What do your views of the world do for you? If they do not make you able to live and enjoy life, perhaps you are mistaken.

Personally, I've hated pretty much every year I have been alive, I've only ever pretended to be ok with it. I very much look forward to the time when my body dies and I am no longer alive anymore having to live in this cesspool of an existence. I've always been a brutally honest person and sometimes that has got me into some trouble. I wasn't ever afraid to be honest, but I soon discovered that my honesty made other people feel uncomfortable, other people would dislike me. But that was fine by me, because I never had any problem with my own company, I always faired better alone, than I did when I was with others.

I'm happy to wait for nature to take it's death course on me, as I hate the thought of self-harm, I've never self-harmed myself, and wouldn't dream of it. So for me, the only good thing about being alive, is knowing that it will one day end, and hopefully I will never have to live this experience ever again. But then, as long as the human race continue to breed, who knows who will spawn next...and that's another thing I hate about life...the thought of being born in a country like Afganistan, or North Korea, or America...It's all so gross to think about. So in reality there is nothing I can do about being born, it is what it is, I'm comfortably numb about it, what choice do I have but to endure it. I used to think that life was a beautiful miracle, an experience that was well worth the price of admission, but then I instinctively knew I was only deluding and forcing myself to take that view. So one day I just decided to surrender to my real feelings and stopped pretending. That's when I just decided to accept reality for what it actually is, and not what I wishfully painted it to be. I then totally let go, and surrended, in other words I died. I'm now in heaven, and I feel pretty much ok, my life turned out to have a happy ending all in all.

In spite of yourself, you have a flair for writing. You don't have to solve the problems of the world (others), only your own. This sounds like an opening to a good novel:

That's when I just decided to accept reality for what it actually is, and not what I wishfully painted it to be. I then totally let go, and surrendered, in other words I died. I'm now in heaven, and I feel pretty much ok, my life turned out to have a happy ending all in all.

I'm quite serious. It's a bit, "existential," or, "Nabakovian," but that's not bad for fiction. Have you ever thought about writing?

[Lacewing]

I've always been a brutally honest person

Honest according to what? Whatever random thought you have from one moment to the next? How can you be honest about anything that you claim doesn't even exist? How can someone be honest when they are emotionally erratic and continually changing their view and energy?

hopefully I will never have to live this experience ever again. But then, as long as the human race continue to breed, who knows who will spawn next...and that's another thing I hate about life...the thought of being born in a country like Afganistan, or North Korea, or America...It's all so gross to think about.

If there is reincarnation, you seem to be extraordinarily intent in setting it up.

I used to think that life was a beautiful miracle, an experience that was well worth the price of admission, but then I instinctively knew I was only deluding and forcing myself to take that view.

Oh sure... you used to be lost, but NOW you're found... such a unique fucking story. You're just a noisy dreamer, blabbing on and on about her self-indulgent dream... and when someone questions her about it, she runs and hides... denies it all... pretends there's no one and nothing... until she gets bored and wants to engage with all the nothing again.

I then totally let go, and surrended, in other words I died. I'm now in heaven, and I feel pretty much ok, my life turned out to have a happy ending all in all.

How long have you been insane? Do you remember the breaking point?

[Dontaskme]

Honest according to what? Whatever random thought you have from one moment to the next? How can you be honest about anything that you claim doesn't even exist? How can someone be honest when they are emotionally erratic and continually changing their view and energy?

I can only report how I'm feeling, and what I am seeing. I'm always honest about that to others and myself. Yes, my surround is constantly changing, and so I usually have to adjust my reporting accordingly.

If there is reincarnation, you seem to be extraordinarily intent in setting it up.

I don't think of it like that. Rather, I see other people as sentient organisms like myself, so if I can know what I am experiencing, I sure as heck can know other people can too. I would not want to be someone from North Korea that's for sure. How about you?

Oh sure... you used to be lost, but NOW you're found... such a unique fucking story. You're just a noisy dreamer, blabbing on and on about her self-indulgent dream... and when someone questions her about it, she runs and hides... denies it all... pretends there's no one and nothing... until she gets bored and wants to engage with all the nothing again.

Yes, I was lost but now I'm found, that's right. So what?
Have I ever ran away from this forum, or the responses I get from people like you and others, no I haven't. Now, what was your question again, I forgot?

How long have you been insane? Do you remember the breaking point?

Yes, I remember the exact day, it was when I was about 5 years old and I witnessed this boy smashing a live cat he was holding into a brick wall and then just burst out laughing as it helplessly whimpered. My first reaction was to gasp in horror and wonder what the fucking hell is this hell hole.

Anyways, I'm all grown up now, but nothing really improved much.

[Dontaskme]

Oh sure... you used to be lost, but NOW you're found... such a unique fucking story. You're just a noisy dreamer, blabbing on and on about her self-indulgent dream... and when someone questions her about it, she runs and hides... denies it all... pretends there's no one and nothing... until she gets bored and wants to engage with all the nothing again

I'm not pretending there is nothing living life, nor am I denying it, it's just basic common knowledge that there is nothing living life.
How can I deny what I cannot deny, because there is no one denying anything? the act of someone denying is just an appearance that no thing is doing.

If you ever had the stomach to listen to my posts, you'd see that I have explained this to you over and over again, but still you have no idea what I am talking about, and you'd be in your right mind not to have any idea, because you like every other human being are able to be self aware, and that sense of separation is difficult to let go of, even more difficult to know it doesn't actually exist in nature. Rather, it's typically an artificial concept.

I'm saying that sense of self-wareness where there is an apparent subject and object divide is purely subjective, it's an illusion, not that life itself is an illusion. Life is without doubt or error, but there is no individual self there, except in this conception.

There was no self there when you were conceived, or during babyhood. But heck, if you insist there is a self there in you, then that's a knowledge, and with that knowledge you will know how to make more selves, and you will know how to not make more selves.

But that knowing knowledge you seem to think you have is an illusion. You cling to the illusion because that's all you know. That's the dream world, it's the dream of separation where there is none. And nothing ever happens in a dream. But don't take my word for it, test this nonsense out for yourself, this nonsense that seems to tickle you half to death, as you revel in making fun and mocking what you are reading in my posts, but that's normal, so don't be too hard on yourself for doing that...it's perfectly normal mind activity. The mind that has never been able to see itself, is a bit of an enigma even to itself.

Ask yourself, who were you before you were born, who will you be when you die, and if you cannot know who, then who do you think is being who now?

Who who who, who lets the dogs out! ...lets hear your version of who is being who ?....that would be a fucking unique story too eh?

This world does not have a breaking point, it's already broken, and that perfection is as far as it will ever go. The question is, why would anyone want to lay their eggs in a broken nest. Oh that's right, it's all worth it because love mends all things broken. What a load of sentimental deluded crap.


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