Marriage and Family

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Oh? So you don't regard single mothers as equal to a two parent team? Because it has to be one or the other: other they are, or they aren't.

Well, then, you admit you were wrong, and have nothing more to say, I'm sure.

Mothers are mothers.

Wow. You've discovered tautology. Very well done.

But if you mean "single mothers are the equivalent of a mother-father duo," then the implication is that single mothers deserve no special consideration, no special government help, and all their complaining about how hard it is to be a single parent is just codswallop. They're the same.

Good to know.

Mothers are mothers.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

The deafening silence from the woke on here is noted but hardly surprising. Both sides of the same religious nut coin. Fuck you.

[Immanuel Can]

Mothers are mothers.

Wow. You've discovered tautology. Very well done.

But if you mean "single mothers are the equivalent of a mother-father duo," then the implication is that single mothers deserve no special consideration, no special government help, and all their complaining about how hard it is to be a single parent is just codswallop. They're the same.

Good to know.

Mothers are mothers.

Not informative.

You can go on to tell us that rocks are rocks, trees are trees, lakes are lakes, the moon is the moon, and the sun is the sun. We won't be informed of anything thereby.

Take a position, or take your white feather.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Wow. You've discovered tautology. Very well done.

But if you mean "single mothers are the equivalent of a mother-father duo," then the implication is that single mothers deserve no special consideration, no special government help, and all their complaining about how hard it is to be a single parent is just codswallop. They're the same.

Good to know.

Mothers are mothers.

Not informative.

You can go on to tell us that rocks are rocks, trees are trees, lakes are lakes, the moon is the moon, and the sun is the sun. We won't be informed of anything thereby.

Take a position, or take your white feather.

Mothers are mothers. Men are unreliable cunts. Modern, enlightened humans understand this.

[Immanuel Can]

Mothers are mothers.

Not informative.

You can go on to tell us that rocks are rocks, trees are trees, lakes are lakes, the moon is the moon, and the sun is the sun. We won't be informed of anything thereby.

Take a position, or take your white feather.

Mothers are mothers. Men are unreliable cunts. Modern societies understand this.

Here's your chicken feather.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Not informative.

You can go on to tell us that rocks are rocks, trees are trees, lakes are lakes, the moon is the moon, and the sun is the sun. We won't be informed of anything thereby.

Take a position, or take your white feather.

Mothers are mothers. Men are unreliable cunts. Modern societies understand this.

Here's your chicken feather.

Because you say so Where's your 'argument'? I can't find it.

[Immanuel Can]

Mothers are mothers. Men are unreliable cunts. Modern societies understand this.

Here's your chicken feather.

Because you say so Where's your 'argument'? I can't find it.

I'll give it to you when you take a position: are single mothers the same as a family with two parents?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Here's your chicken feather.

Because you say so Where's your 'argument'? I can't find it.

I'll give it to you when you take a position: are single mothers the same as a family with two parents?

Their situation and circumstances are different. One can become the other easily enough. What's your point?
And who are you kidding? You will never have an 'argument' and you know it, because my answers will never suit your greedy, misogynistic religiofuck agenda Are you saying a woman is better off with a violent and dangerous man, because that might cost you a few less cents in taxes and satisfy your misogynistic, closeted-gay fetish?

[Immanuel Can]

Because you say so Where's your 'argument'? I can't find it.

I'll give it to you when you take a position: are single mothers the same as a family with two parents?

Their situation and circumstances are different. One can become the other easily enough. What's your point?

It's very simple: you don't believe a household with a single-parent mom is as functional as one with two good parents.

The basic math tells you it isn't, for one thing. For another, single mothers insist it isn't: it's the reason why they claim they need special sympathy, consideration and help. For another, all the research -- a very small bit of which I already posted upstream -- shows that's the case. So it's really futile to deny the facts on that.

The reason single mothers need help is that it's tough being a single mom. And that means it's also tough on the children. My best friend is the son of a single mother: and she would tell you she would have done anything she could if she could have had her dead husband back, because it was really tough raising four kids on her own. She did it, but she would never have chosen that route if she could have had help instead.

I'm thinking maybe you have bad experiences with males. I say that because of how you characterize all of them. And if you've had bad experiences, I'm sincerely sorry that you have. But the truth is that that sort of experience is not all that's possible...not nearly.

So I would conclude that many single mothers deserve the sympathy and special help they claim they need. And I would commend them for doing a very tough job, if they manage to do it well. But I wouldn't pretend it wasn't tough. And I wouldn't say that there's no better alternative, because even they insist there is, and they'd take it if they could get it.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

blah, blah, drone, god, drone, blah, drone, god, my money, bitches ......

[Dontaskme]

Mothers are the ones who are totally responsible for any child that is born to this world.Simply because it's her fucking vagina that the damn thing falls out of.

Every woman who is knowledable about her own body should ask themself ONE serious and very important question before EVER allowing sperm inside her body.
That one VITAL question is .. (Am I prepared to raise my child ALONE ) If they fail to ask this question, then they are falling into a trap that could have been avoided. Smart women should be aware that there is no sure guarantee any sperm donor is going to stick around to HELP raise the child.

If a woman is smart, she will choose to be responsible for her own child, long before she ever gets pregnant. She will be the only one who gets to choose whether having a child is right for her or not. It's the woman who has to seriously know what she is doing, and ask herself do I WANT a child, and am I prepared to raise any child I have ...alone.


A child that is born, has only basic needs, and that is stability and consistancy during what is a totally dependent, vulnerable, and helpless phase. The task can be fully implemented and applied by the mother alone very easily without any problems. I know this, because I have done it, I have all the evidence and proof, seen in my own children right now.

A lot of men are very good at making babies, doing a runner, in search of better pussy, and then just expecting everyone else to clean up their train wrecks, by expecting other people to pay for them . Men are really dumb and stupid, when it comes to the act of procreation, whereas women have had to be really smart, that's just the way it's always been.

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[Dontaskme]

Of course there is no evidence, which is why none of the religious nutjobs on here has any.

They need to create hell in order to get to heaven.

Wow! Those are powerful words, perhaps of warning to us all. Is there really a heaven and hell or is everything more like a homogenous flux whereby we all experience some of both in the same dimension. Heaven and hell are interesting thoughts to me.

Words are crap, they can mean so many different things to different folk, according to their beliefs, and perceptions.

Heaven to me, simply means, when a situation is not bad. And hell to me, simply means when the bad situation is temporally absent, in other words, heaven are those fleeting moments, whereas hell is always there lurking around somewhere, just waiting to pounce, it's a permanent feature in any sentient feeling being.



Bye the way...It does not take a village to raise a child, contrary to popular belief.

A child, even 4 children can be raised by just one single mother all alone, without any problem whatsoever.

A smart, strong woman knows the hell of raising life, she also knows the heaven, she has no expectation of either, she takes it all, endures it all until the end.

Heaven is at the feet of mothers.

Bad knows good, and good knows bad, it's normal, it's an automatic reflexive instinct. No God required to know that bad is bad, something to be avoided, and good is always good when bad is absent. No God needed to know this basic innate knowing.

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[Gary Childress]

I guess my two cents would be that two incomes are better than one and a man can care about a child (especially his own), maybe as much as a woman can. Not all men are bad fathers, some are very good. Also, two overseers can watch more attentively than one. Parents also serve as role models and if a child lacks a good role model of one gender then that child may develop bad tendencies with respect to how they approach people of that gender.

I'm sad to hear that some here believe men are all good-for-nothing "sperm donors." I agree that some men are, but other men want to be loved and want to love with devotion and commitment. And if a child is brought up in a home without love and devotion, that child may develop in ways that preclude love and devotion in their own adult lives with a partner. I believe there is a lot to be said for true love and for devotion to a mate. It's a stronger family unit that has love. Love is real and it exists out there. Lack of love leads to callousness and indifference toward others. It also makes for a fractured community when members of the community don't care about each other. Indifference is real too and it can destroy social cohesion and social cohesion is important for a society to thrive and prosper. Without love, there is perhaps a more transactional approach to relationships with others. But there is also the giving of help to others out of a spirit of love, for no other reason than others need it.

[Dontaskme]

I'm sad to hear that some here believe men are all good-for-nothing "sperm donors."

That was never implied.
A sperm donor is just another way of saying the biological Father.

I never implied men are good for nothing…if I did, where?

I implied it is wise and sensible and responsible for women to prepare to raise a child alone, and not expect the Father to stick around to help out just because they have participated in the creation of a child.
I know some fathers do stick around for reasons that are personal to them, and that’s a good thing for any child to have two parents to support them. However, for those who do leave their responsibilities…whether it’s the man or the woman, the child will still fair well for only having one parent…just as a person will fair well for only having one eye, for at least they’ve got the other eye.

I agree that some men are, but other men want to be loved and want to love with devotion and commitment. And if a child is brought up in a home without love and devotion, that child may develop in ways that preclude love and devotion in their own adult lives with a partner. I believe there is a lot to be said for true love and for devotion to a mate. It's a stronger family unit that has love. Love is real and it exists out there. Lack of love leads to callousness and indifference toward others. It also makes for a fractured community when members of the community don't care about each other. Indifference is real too and it can destroy social cohesion and social cohesion is important for a society to thrive and prosper. Without love, there is perhaps a more transactional approach to relationships with others. But there is also the giving of help to others out of a spirit of love, for no other reason than others need it.

Men or women wanting to be loved will never find it…not when they expect to find it in their child or other half.

Love is something that you allow for it to have its freedom to come and go. Nothing belongs to you, especially love.
Real love has no expectation. Real love comes from you alone, no one else.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Well if American 'nuclear' parents even remotely resemble the way they are portrayed on American TV shows then it's no wonder the population is so fucked up.
Weak, self-absorbed morons constantly apologising and asking if the hapless child 'wants to talk about it', endless angst-ridden 'psychological pep talks', 'therapy' sessions, spoilt brat kids who talk like mini adults who've spent too much time watching American TV families, nothing that even comes close to actual parenting (or normal human beings)...