Religion is Man- Made

[Dontaskme]

Alex, I don't approve of your (feeble) attempt to intimidate DAM. Many of DAM's sweary images I learned at a posh school in the 1940s! To extend your sailor metaphor, DAM is like a lone sailor in a small boat down at the level of the dangerous waters whereas you are perhaps on a disgusting cruise ship with thousands of others to validate you..

We’re all on the same one lifeboat here…the one made of cardboard…denial is futile.

I’m just under no illusion that the good ship lollipop is not what it appears to be, and I’m quite relaxed, chilled and ok to go down with the titanic. The only good thing about life, is that it ends.

[Age]

Would you choose to be born if you knew you would have a much better life than the one that you have had to endure so far?

If I could choose to be born, knowing what I know during this life, I wouldn’t touch the offer with an infinitely long barge pole.

WHY did you say, "this life"?

That could imply if you had 'another life', then you might have 'another view' here?

Is there ANY other 'life' besides 'this life'?

There is no such thing as a BETTER life.

So, to you, there is absolutely NOTHING you can do to make a BETTER life for children, or the life you had as a child when you were being abused could NOT be BETTER, correct? Or, did you mean something else?

Better implies not good enough, and so there’s just no way to exclude the “not good enough’s” from reality, else “the better’s “ would have no meaning or value.

You have LOST me.

Stop living in sugar plum fairy lala land …

Do you like being told how to live 'your life'?

If no, then WHY do you tell "others" how to live 'their life'?

face reality as it actually is..

And how is that, EXACTLY?

Also, what IS 'reality', EXACTLY, by the way?

which is either bad or the absence of bad.

So, 'your life' is completely and fully ALWAYS bad, or NOT bad, correct?

If yes, then do you PRESUME this is the EXACT SAME for ALL, as well?

[Belinda]

Alex, I don't approve of your (feeble) attempt to intimidate DAM. Many of DAM's sweary images I learned at a posh school in the 1940s! To extend your sailor metaphor, DAM is like a lone sailor in a small boat down at the level of the dangerous waters whereas you are perhaps on a disgusting cruise ship with thousands of others to validate you..

We’re all on the same one lifeboat here…the one made of cardboard…denial is futile.

I’m just under no illusion that the good ship lollipop is not what it appears to be, and I’m quite relaxed, chilled and ok to go down with the titanic. The only good thing about life, is that it ends.

Yes, but some people will not face up to that.

[Belinda]

Age wrote:

WHY did you say, "this life"?

That could imply if you had 'another life', then you might have 'another view' here?

Is there ANY other 'life' besides 'this life'?

This ability to imagine alternatives is part of human consciousness. We do it all the time when we are making considered decisions. The linguistic phrase is 'What if---?'

[Dontaskme]

Alex, I don't approve of your (feeble) attempt to intimidate DAM. Many of DAM's sweary images I learned at a posh school in the 1940s! To extend your sailor metaphor, DAM is like a lone sailor in a small boat down at the level of the dangerous waters whereas you are perhaps on a disgusting cruise ship with thousands of others to validate you..

We’re all on the same one lifeboat here…the one made of cardboard…denial is futile.

I’m just under no illusion that the good ship lollipop is not what it appears to be, and I’m quite relaxed, chilled and ok to go down with the titanic. The only good thing about life, is that it ends.

Yes, but some people will not face up to that.

That’s right, it’s not enough for some. It’s never good enough.

There must be more to it than this they say.

They believe their own BS then they try to sell it to others. It’s all very gross.

The one eyed man is king. Be like a tree and leave this madhouse …is my motto for life. It’s kept me sane through my stay in this insane asylum. The one I never consented to, or designed.

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[Age]

Alex, I don't approve of your (feeble) attempt to intimidate DAM. Many of DAM's sweary images I learned at a posh school in the 1940s! To extend your sailor metaphor, DAM is like a lone sailor in a small boat down at the level of the dangerous waters whereas you are perhaps on a disgusting cruise ship with thousands of others to validate you..

We’re all on the same one lifeboat here…the one made of cardboard…denial is futile.

I’m just under no illusion that the good ship lollipop is not what it appears to be, and I’m quite relaxed, chilled and ok to go down with the titanic. The only good thing about life, is that it ends.

But 'Life', Itself, does NOT end. Although 'your life' CERTAINLY WILL, and what some are seeing here is that because 'your life' WILL END, and "others" will keep on living a life that they Truly LOVE and ENJOY, which you will NEVER be able to, so you find this unfair, and this upsets you tremendously, and so, to you, all you can see is pain and suffering in life, and then you use this as an "excuse" and reason WHY you make the claim and WISH no one else should be brought into Life.

[AlexW]

Alex, I don't approve of your (feeble) attempt to intimidate DAM.

I had no intention of intimidating DAM.
Why do you get the impression this is the case?
DAM doesn’t seem intimidated to me…

Many of DAM's sweary images I learned at a posh school in the 1940s!

Just because you have learned something at school it doesn’t mean you have to carry on like that when you are an adult.
I think it’s simply bad manners to swear at people. Its a sign of frustration and insecurity, not a sign of knowledge and consideration.

[AlexW]

I’m enjoying my disgusting life, that’s the beauty of not pretending any more, that’s the only positive about all this, the intelligence…to see through all the BS and to stop believing in my own lies, and denial of the actual truth, rather than the truth that we hope is real.

Its a truth that you made up for yourself.
Just because you condemn people who made up their truth of “life is beautiful “ it doesn’t mean that your “life is disgusting“ is any better or more truthful.
Both are just opinions, nothing more.

[Belinda]

Alex, I don't approve of your (feeble) attempt to intimidate DAM.

I had no intention of intimidating DAM.
Why do you get the impression this is the case?
DAM doesn’t seem intimidated to me…

Many of DAM's sweary images I learned at a posh school in the 1940s!

Just because you have learned something at school it doesn’t mean you have to carry on like that when you are an adult.
I think it’s simply bad manners to swear at people. Its a sign of frustration and insecurity, not a sign of knowledge and consideration.

It is not important that someone uses sweary language. What matters is their honesty.

[AlexW]

It is not important that someone uses sweary language. What matters is their honesty.

I prefer to be honest without using sweary language, yet it seems you think this is being feeble…
Do you also think it doesn’t matter if one is physically violent as long as the violence honest?

[Dontaskme]

Alex, I don't approve of your (feeble) attempt to intimidate DAM.

I had no intention of intimidating DAM.
Why do you get the impression this is the case?
DAM doesn’t seem intimidated to me…

Many of DAM's sweary images I learned at a posh school in the 1940s!

Just because you have learned something at school it doesn’t mean you have to carry on like that when you are an adult.
I think it’s simply bad manners to swear at people. Its a sign of frustration and insecurity, not a sign of knowledge and consideration.

It is not important that someone uses sweary language. What matters is their honesty.

Thanks for your honesty…I agree with you…

I’ve grown up, and stopped caring about other’s peoples opinions….or what they think of mine.


I’m just unashamedly me, and I love being me, I owe no one an apology for being me.

If people have a problem with my opinions…that’s there problem….and none of my business….I speak my philosophy the way I see it, just as they speak theirs…which I have no problem with.

[Dontaskme]

It is not important that someone uses sweary language. What matters is their honesty.

I prefer to be honest without using sweary language, yet it seems you think this is being feeble…
Do you also think it doesn’t matter if one is physically violent as long as the violence honest?

That’s just a stupid dumb strawman comment…but then your just a man,and men are stupid.

Oh and you are a snob just like that dumb Kunt Walker…

[Lacewing]

I’m enjoying my disgusting life, that’s the beauty of not pretending any more, that’s the only positive about all this, the intelligence…to see through all the BS and to stop believing in my own lies, and denial of the actual truth, rather than the truth that we hope is real.

Its a truth that you made up for yourself.
Just because you condemn people who made up their truth of “life is beautiful “ it doesn’t mean that your “life is disgusting“ is any better or more truthful.
Both are just opinions, nothing more.

Agreed. Seeing life as disgusting does not make DAM "intelligent" or "grown up"... but that is how she is presenting it, along with saying it is the "actual truth". Whatever. That's her self-serving creation of whatever perspective she chooses to obsess on. And no, people who see greater or other potential are not on a cruise ship.

Why wouldn't it be more truthful and accurate to always look at/for a greater range of potential? There are so many ways to see and do.

DAM, why isn't it enough for you to say this is how you see it, and you're content with it -- rather than saying everyone else is stupid if they don't see what/how YOU see? You're doing it your way... that's all... no big deal... not uniquely brilliant or true.

[Belinda]

I’m enjoying my disgusting life, that’s the beauty of not pretending any more, that’s the only positive about all this, the intelligence…to see through all the BS and to stop believing in my own lies, and denial of the actual truth, rather than the truth that we hope is real.

Its a truth that you made up for yourself.
Just because you condemn people who made up their truth of “life is beautiful “ it doesn’t mean that your “life is disgusting“ is any better or more truthful.
Both are just opinions, nothing more.

Agreed. Seeing life as disgusting does not make DAM "intelligent" or "grown up"... but that is how she is presenting it, along with saying it is the "actual truth". Whatever. That's her self-serving creation of whatever perspective she chooses to obsess on. And no, people who see greater or other potential are not on a cruise ship.

Why wouldn't it be more truthful and accurate to always look at/for a greater range of potential? There are so many ways to see and do.

DAM, why isn't it enough for you to say this is how you see it, and you're content with it -- rather than saying everyone else is stupid if they don't see what/how YOU see? You're doing it your way... that's all... no big deal... not uniquely brilliant or true.

DAM obviously is not diplomatic or tactful. However she is willing to stick to an unpopular point of view. That is why she is not on some huge popular cruise but is risking her persona here on this forum by having the courage of her convictions. I don't agree with all DAM's claims.For instance I think she it too pessimistic about human nature and the future of civilised values.

On of the feeds I get every day on my Facebook page would seem to endorse that men are devils out of Hell.

[Belinda]

It is not important that someone uses sweary language. What matters is their honesty.

I prefer to be honest without using sweary language, yet it seems you think this is being feeble…
Do you also think it doesn’t matter if one is physically violent as long as the violence honest?

It matters not what lexicon you use.What matters is honesty and authenticity.
It does matter that the ends do not justify the means.