Religion is Man- Made

[Dubious]

Oh, my, there are so many. These immediately come to mind:

Oh my ,oh my...you are barking up the wrong tree of life...coming up with ways to make killing yourself as painless as possible.. is not the point of this disccusion ..this discussion has nothing to do with the insane act of deliberate suicide.

True that talk of means of suicide is not within the purview of the Op. It is a one off but I did ask RCSaunders for clarification and he kindly responded with a very interesting post.

It was mostly a theoretical question, but it's undeniable that suicide is becoming more prevalent and likely to escalate. I agree completely that the most definitive way to avoid misery is not to have children on whom more, it seems, is consequently imposed. I figured that out a long time ago and decided not to have any. Whatever could have come along under normal circumstances but didn't, I figure, owes me a heap of thanks! That position is no-longer as rare as it once was. With the way things are shaping up, the suicide rate is going to become a much more severe statistic and think it not unlikely, though unthinkable now, that sometime in the future euthanasia clinics will become part of the establishment.

Sorry to sound so pessimistic, but with all that's happening, especially climate change and its never before experienced consequences, it may not be such a bad idea to be self-aware of that possibility!

[Dontaskme]

True that talk of means of suicide is not within the purview of the Op. It is a one off but I did ask RCSaunders for clarification and he kindly responded with a very interesting post.

Yes he did..but He should have PM'd you with that data. Or suggested looking for the data on google available to all of us. That's why the PM option is available.

It was mostly a theoretical question, but it's undeniable that suicide is becoming more prevalent and likely to escalate. I agree completely that the most definitive way to avoid misery is not to have children on whom more, it seems, is consequently imposed. I figured that out a long time ago and decided not to have any. Whatever could have come along under normal circumstances but didn't, I figure, owes me a heap of thanks! That position is no-longer as rare as it once was. With the way things are shaping up, the suicide rate is going to become a much more severe statistic and think it not unlikely, though unthinkable now, that sometime in the future euthanasia clinics will become part of the establishment.

Sorry to sound so pessimistic, but with all that's happening, especially climate change and its never before experienced consequences, it may not be such a bad idea to be self-aware of that possibility!

I agree. But I personally,would never kill myself, ever. Nor would I kill another person, or take the life of an animal just for the joy that comes with eating it.


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[Belinda]

DontAskMe wrote:

The truth is ...human beings really do not like each other...they cannot stand each other, they only care for their own comfort and pleasure...which includes making other people without their consent. It's an addiction to cannibalism and molestation.

I know and have known a lot of people who like each other.

Apart from that, it is a universal fact that human beings believe we can communicate with each other and must do so.(You yourself communicate with others.)

[RCSaunders]

Oh, my, there are so many. These immediately come to mind:

Oh my ,oh my...you are barking up the wrong tree of life...coming up with ways to make killing yourself as painless as possible.. is not the point of this disccusion ..this discussion has nothing to do with the insane act of deliberate suicide. ........

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Nobody is recommending suicide. I specifically wrote:

Personally, I think you ought to wait. No matter how much you dislike life, if you quit living now, you just might miss something that might make life worth living. There are no guarantees in life, but death is pretty final.

It has nothing to do with you. It is only an answer to the question, "So, as a matter of interest, what are some of the ways to die painlessly committed as a thoroughly private event?" It's only information which, if you weren't so paranoid, you would know is just as useful for preserving life by avoiding the dangers of those described toxins.

The reality you hate just happens to be the reality I love. All the things you describe as evil are what I regard as realities greatest benefits. I just do not understand why those who hate reality and their own existence so much continue to suffer unnecessarily when they do not have to. I do not believe them.

[RCSaunders]

True that talk of means of suicide is not within the purview of the Op. It is a one off but I did ask RCSaunders for clarification and he kindly responded with a very interesting post.

Yes he did..but He should have PM'd you with that data. Or suggested looking for the data on google available to all of us. That's why the PM option is available.

You might find life more tolerable if you didn't spend yours deciding how other's should do things. Just because you dislike knowledge does not mean everyone else does. Since Dubious was interested in the information, I assumed others might also be interested. Nothing made you read it.

And, by the way, at least half of my explanation you could not find doing a WEB search.

[henry quirk]

coming up with ways to make killing yourself as painless as possible.. is not the point of this disccusion

Translation: I want to die, but let's not talk about suicide

Is this a plot twist, or just bad writing?

The audience demands clarification.

[RCSaunders]

I personally,would never ... take the life of an animal just for the joy that comes with eating it.

You don't have to kill an animal to eat it, but most taste better if you do, and then cook them as well. Oysters, however, are best eaten alive.

Odd that those who regard animals so highly that they would not kill them to enjoy eating them don't learn from those noble creatures how much pleasure they seem to get from eating each other.

[Lacewing]

means of suicide is not within the purview of the Op. It is a one off but I did ask RCSaunders for clarification and he kindly responded with a very interesting post.

I thought that information was interesting too. Makes me wonder why people would shoot themselves... or jump off bridges... or drive off cliffs... and risk surviving in an even worse condition?

I agree completely that the most definitive way to avoid misery is not to have children on whom more, it seems, is consequently imposed. I figured that out a long time ago and decided not to have any.

Although I think I would have enjoyed having children, it simply wasn't a driving force in me, and I was usually focused on preventing it. I didn't think about possibly subjecting other beings to a horrible world (since I don't think that way, myself). I am grateful for the life I have been able to create and have without children. My close friends and neighbors (6 couples) don't have children either.

it not unlikely, though unthinkable now, that sometime in the future euthanasia clinics will become part of the establishment.

I think that would be a good idea. Two reasons: 1) It should be easier for people to check-out if they want to, and 2) Having the easy option could make people more appreciative, and take more responsibility, for embracing their lives. It's too easy to complain when one can claim that they're a victim, or trapped, and can't do anything about it. It's very likely that the world and humankind are dragged down (and stunted) by people who don't appreciate it and don't want to be here.

[Dontaskme]

Nobody is recommending suicide. I specifically wrote:

Personally, I think you ought to wait. No matter how much you dislike life, if you quit living now, you just might miss something that might make life worth living. There are no guarantees in life, but death is pretty final.

It has nothing to do with you. It is only an answer to the question, "So, as a matter of interest, what are some of the ways to die painlessly committed as a thoroughly private event?" It's only information which, if you weren't so paranoid, you would know is just as useful for preserving life by avoiding the dangers of those described toxins.

The reality you hate just happens to be the reality I love. All the things you describe as evil are what I regard as realities greatest benefits. I just do not understand why those who hate reality and their own existence so much continue to suffer unnecessarily when they do not have to. I do not believe them.

I think everyone participating on this thread, are forgetting that all I've ever said is I hate pain and suffering, I've not once mentioned the idea of SUICIDE. Such an idea never crossed my mind. ...but it's as if everyone seems to want to roll with Oh, she hates life so much ..why doesn't she just kill herself.

You asked me what I was waiting for remember? implying I should just kill myself. ..just because I said I look forward to death, and that I have no fear of death. You've taken that statement out of context haven't you. Why, because your an ignorant idiot.

People are just making ridiculous random comments and making bad interpretations of what I am saying. Even before they have read the whole story which is all here in this thread. But no, people haven't read the whole story, they've just picked up on a negative energy, that displeases them... and blown it all out of proportion. It's as though it is a criminal offense to say I hate pain and suffering.

It's not up to you or anyone to suggest suicide. . or and things you can take to make it painless.

Yes, the subject ''suicide'' was yours, and probably henry's as well...remember.

I think the purpose of this thread is really starting to get out of hand now with this talk of suicide, an idea that I never would have mentioned at all.

This is my thread and I will direct it the way I think it should go. It is not a dumping ground to inform people on how is the best way to kill them self. Please stop trying to take the moral highground on this matter. And make me look like a bad person for having the thoughts I do...Take your ideas else where, and leave my thread.

I hate suffering and pain, that's all, that doesn't give you and that weirdo henry a licence to start talking about suicide or the most painless way to do it. You should have PM'd Dubious full stop, not pollute my thread with talk of suicide...please stop trying to turn this around onto me, and say I'm paranoid, you fucking arrogant twat. Henry directs everything at me, so of course I'm going to feel paranoid, the twat has already said to me he thinks I am BAD PERSON.... so your now telling me I am paranoid? what a joke.

This topic thread is about religion / god and pain and suffering...not suicide, which I never mentioned.

Not everyone who dares to say they think being alive is a bad idea wants to kill themself. And yet that's the bug mentality of most human being, they are so clueless.

[Dontaskme]

True that talk of means of suicide is not within the purview of the Op. It is a one off but I did ask RCSaunders for clarification and he kindly responded with a very interesting post.

Yes he did..but He should have PM'd you with that data. Or suggested looking for the data on google available to all of us. That's why the PM option is available.

You might find life more tolerable if you didn't spend yours deciding how other's should do things. Just because you dislike knowledge does not mean everyone else does. Since Dubious was interested in the information, I assumed others might also be interested. Nothing made you read it.

And, by the way, at least half of my explanation you could not find doing a WEB search.

I didn't read much of it...as soon as I realised what it was saying...I read the first line, and that's it. . I got the gist, after reading the first line, and went no further.

So you are dead wrong, fool. I did not read it because I think it has no place on this thread.

This thread is not about the knowledge of suicide, please stop the condecending attitute. Take such knowledge to the PM option if you enjoy that sort of knowledge. Don't dump it on my thread ok...this is my thread and I will say how it is meant to go.

[henry quirk]

euthanasia clinics

An awful idea. If Joe wants to off himself, he will. Makin' it easy for him is no favor.

[Dontaskme]

The reality you hate just happens to be the reality I love. All the things you describe as evil are what I regard as realities greatest benefits.

Well good for fucking you. Congrats!

I have absolutely no problem that you love life. What do you want me to do throw you a fucking... HEY guys and gals, ISN'T LIFE SO WONDERFUL PARTY ?

And just so you kow...you are entitled to have your view that life has greatest benefits...just as I am entitled to have my view that life is evil...so fucking what!

I'm not the one saying to people ( you are a BAD PERSON ) just because I have a different view point.. NO... I'm a BAD PERSON for having my view aren't I ? ...go back through this whole thread, it's all written down...read the whole story about what has been said here.
There has been a deliberate attempt to inflame this thread with abusive comments about my views. And so what am I supposed to do, not react to them...dream on.

I just do not understand why those who hate reality and their own existence so much continue to suffer unnecessarily when they do not have to. I do not believe them.

What or how other people choose to think about their life has nothing to do with you anyway, so save it, don't concern yourself too much.

What makes you think people who hate pain and suffering are suffering or hate their existence? I'm not suffering if that's what you believe.

I hate that pain and suffeiring is part of being alive, doesn't mean I am suffering, it's just something I have an opinion about. Personally, I wouldn't choose to be born, and that's my prerogative to have those thoughts, but that doesn't mean I am suffering just because I have those thoughts, which is just an opinion.

Geeze, pull yourself together and stop thinking you know what people are really feeling, for ffs...you know absolute jack shit about me. Quit making projections about my character based on your own fears and phobias and self bias.

[Dontaskme]

I personally,would never ... take the life of an animal just for the joy that comes with eating it.

You don't have to kill an animal to eat it, but most taste better if you do, and then cook them as well. Oysters, however, are best eaten alive.

Odd that those who regard animals so highly that they would not kill them to enjoy eating them don't learn from those noble creatures how much pleasure they seem to get from eating each other.

Lets all be animals then, oh wait!

Who'd want to be born into this parasitic canabilistic jungle ...not me sorry if that offends you.

Do animals cook their food... oh wait, would that be because they do not know how to make fire.

Apologies in advance if you do actually enjoy eating raw bacon.


Absolutely clueless as usual...

[Dontaskme]

DontAskMe wrote:

The truth is ...human beings really do not like each other...they cannot stand each other, they only care for their own comfort and pleasure...which includes making other people without their consent. It's an addiction to cannibalism and molestation.

I know and have known a lot of people who like each other.

Sorry, but people are parasitic animals, they only have use for other people because they want something from them.

Just face fact, and stop pretending people actually like each other...people think they like each other, they pretend. But they play mind games in order to get what they want, and when they don't get what they want...it's bye bye goodnight. Except for those who suffer fools just because they fear being alone, so again, it's because they want something.

Apart from that, it is a universal fact that human beings believe we can communicate with each other and must do so.(You yourself communicate with others.)

Because we want the other person to give us something that will make our life more comfortable or pleasurable, that's all. You won't go near someone who gives you nothing. Otherwise what would you be doing with them? Relationships are unnatural, co-dependancy among humans is through fear of being alone. Humans are the most insecure species on the planet.

If you think people are nice and that they like each other, then next time you are in town, stop by one of the homeless people living in the shop doorway and offer him permanent residence in your spare bedroom, that's if you have one, then see how that works out for you both.

Most communication between people is rife with gossip anyway.

[Lacewing]

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Absolutely clueless as usual...

Is that your new signature?