A World Without Men?

[Age]

But you have made that claim. So are you now denying it?

But I NEVER made that claim AT ALL.

Now, if you would like to PROVE me wrong, then JUST DO IT. Where did I EVER write it?

full quote....

Most of what I write is just only in response to question what has already been written down by others, which now cannot be removed. There is a reason I used a forum like this. Obviously, if the others here do not start or not now (want to) answer My questions, then there is some reason not to. Whatever the reason is of no real concern to Me. What is important to Me, however, is what the words ARE that are actually written down, because that is what others are looking at and seeing. Others base their views upon what is seen, and not upon what is not seen. Why My questions do not get replied to will be judged upon by others later on, when the true answer is more clearly obvious to them.

From the onset I have only wanted to learn how to better express, ONLY what I want to say, and not just "fit in" with others because I will be ridiculed if I do not. My words, on purpose, do not fit in with the 'shared meaning' of "today's" language. I write in a way, which is more honest than others, to aggravate them because I learn far more from their replies this way, then I would by just fitting, in like they are. The peoples of today are still suffering from the same confusion that people have suffered for, for thousands of years. None of which is obviously becoming any clearer to them. The peoples of "today" are still unable to answer any of the meaningful questions in Life. So, of course, My "private language" was never destined to be fully, or even slightly, understood here, especially in this forum. This forum is just a stepping stone of communicating and language learning for Me, in the unobservant and unconscious way to others that I am doing it now. A learning that is done in a way that is not obvious to the others here at all. So, it could been seen as, and I have purposely been, speaking a "private language" and having a true "conversation with Thee Self. As will be noticed NOW it was NOT for the peoples of "today" to consciously recognize, but for you future generations who WILL see and understand exactly WHAT I have been doing throughout this period here, and, more importantly WHY I have been doing it. The responses given by the people here, which is coming from the unconscious 'I', of which 'you' people are NOW becoming far more aware of, is the evidence that i even unintentionally started out doing.

During My intentional learning phase of how to find the right language to better express from, I unintentionally have been producing the evidence and proof from others within their responses, and from within their non response(s), to My clarifying questioning, which can and will NOW actually be used scientifically to support My continually gaining NEW views.

The outcome, for what I propose to express, i.e., show how we call all live together in peace and harmony, IS achieving that what we all truly want and seek. If and when that is achieved, then what I am doing here WILL be recognized and acknowledged. The person who comes across this and studies this forum will now know how it all partly come about. So, this private language that 'I' am having here is actually 'Me' having a conversation with Thee (Real and True) 'Self', of which only a future generations of peoples from "today" can and WILL fully understand.

You've already admitted today that you can't substantiate anything with regard to future generations.

I NEVER admitted ANY such thing.

More quote...

OF COURSE it is. I NEVER even suggested that I had substantiated ANY thing in regards to 'future generations'.

So ... you're sort of fucked and you are doing it to yourself.

You have MISQUOTED here, so some are SEEING that it is actually you who is, so called, "sort of fucked" and who is actually " doing it to "yourself" '.

AGAIN, is there ANY thing of ANY REAL importance that you want to express and share here with 'us'?

If yes, then what is that, EXACTLY?

[FlashDangerpants]

Can you substantiate your belief that future generations will give a fuck about anything you ever wrote?

[uwot]

No evidence that I nor anyone else could provide would prove that the universe began and is expanding,

Besides the FACT that you are more or less just STATING here that there ACTUALLY IS NO proof NOR evidence...

The above is a piece of evidence that you are an incurable moron. It is one among many examples, but it is not proof. No amount of examples of you behaving as if you were an incurable moron will prove that you are an incurable moron. On the other hand, you could in theory disprove the hypothesis that you are an incurable moron by demonstrating that just one piece of information has registered in that yawning void between your ears. You could for instance acknowledge that evidence is not the same thing as proof.

Thee ACTUAL Truth of things is supported by FACTS...

That distant galaxies display red shift is a fact. Your "ACTUAL Truth of things" has to explain that fact, or your "ACTUAL Truth of things" is wrong. How does "ACTUAL Truth of things" explain galactic red shift, Age?

[Age]

No evidence that I nor anyone else could provide would prove that the universe began and is expanding,

Besides the FACT that you are more or less just STATING here that there ACTUALLY IS NO proof NOR evidence...

The above is a piece of evidence that you are an incurable moron.

The MORE RIDICULE, from you, the BETTER THIS IS, for me.

It is one among many examples, but it is not proof. No amount of examples of you behaving as if you were an incurable moron will prove that you are an incurable moron. On the other hand, you could in theory disprove the hypothesis that you are an incurable moron by demonstrating that just one piece of information has registered in that yawning void between your ears.

AGAIN, the MORE RIDICULE, from you, the BETTER THIS IS, for me. Oh, and be the way, the MORE RIDICULE, from you, the MORE PROOF, you are PROVIDING, for me, AS WELL.

You could for instance acknowledge that evidence is not the same thing as proof.

ALREADY DONE, but you OBVIOUSLY MISSED this, ALSO.

Thee ACTUAL Truth of things is supported by FACTS...

That distant galaxies display red shift is a fact.

Yes we KNOW this. I INFORMED you of this FACT.

Your "ACTUAL Truth of things" has to explain that fact, or your "ACTUAL Truth of things" is wrong.

There is NO such thing as "your ACTUAL Truth of things". So, you STILL do NOT YET UNDERSTAND thee ACTUAL Truth of things here.

How does "ACTUAL Truth of things" explain galactic red shift, Age?

VERY SIMPLY and VERY EASILY.

SEE, if, and when, you UNDERSTAND what thee ACTUAL Truth of things IS, then galactic red shift is just, self-explanatory.

So, when, and IF, you EVER become ready to LEARN HOW to find and SEE thee ACTUAL Truth of things, for, and by, 'yourself", then just let us KNOW.

[Age]

Can you substantiate your belief that future generations will give a fuck about anything you ever wrote?

Contrary to YOUR BELIEF, I do NOT have that BELIEF.

[FlashDangerpants]

Can you substantiate your belief that future generations will give a fuck about anything you ever wrote?

Contrary to YOUR BELIEF, I do NOT have that BELIEF.

But you did write this as well

future generations who WILL see and understand exactly WHAT I have been doing throughout this period here, and, more importantly WHY I have been doing it.

So your point appears to be that this is a statement of fact, not a belief?

[Age]

Can you substantiate your belief that future generations will give a fuck about anything you ever wrote?

Contrary to YOUR BELIEF, I do NOT have that BELIEF.

But you did write this as well

future generations who WILL see and understand exactly WHAT I have been doing throughout this period here, and, more importantly WHY I have been doing it.

So your point appears to be that this is a statement of fact, not a belief?

If you say so.

[FlashDangerpants]

Contrary to YOUR BELIEF, I do NOT have that BELIEF.

But you did write this as well

future generations who WILL see and understand exactly WHAT I have been doing throughout this period here, and, more importantly WHY I have been doing it.

So your point appears to be that this is a statement of fact, not a belief?

If you say so.

That was a clarifying question Ken. Clarify for me.

[uwot]

SEE, if, and when, you UNDERSTAND what thee ACTUAL Truth of things IS, then galactic red shift is just, self-explanatory.

It is self-explanatory, and yet you cannot explain it.

So, when, and IF, you EVER become ready to LEARN HOW to find and SEE thee ACTUAL Truth of things, for, and by, 'yourself", then just let us KNOW

I did that years ago. I look at the evidence and I listen to people who know what they are talking about. What does your method involve?

[attofishpi]

Greetings all,

I'm new here, so before diving in I thought I might pause to gauge the interest of members in discussing the possibility of a world without men, that is, a world without male humans.

I've had this conversation elsewhere, and it seems that some folks find this topic highly offensive. Making trouble is not my intention, so it seems wise to at least briefly put my finger in the air to see which way the wind blows on this topic, on this forum. I'm particularly interested in guidance from the mods.

If this isn't going to work, ok, no problem. Just let me know and I'll drop it without complaint.

Thanks!

RE Title: "A World Without Men?"

..I'm sure you would agree there would not be a planet called Earth without MEN. Yes?

[Age]

But you did write this as well



So your point appears to be that this is a statement of fact, not a belief?

If you say so.

That was a clarifying question Ken. Clarify for me.

I suggest if you would like a ANY questioned answered, for you, then you write an ACTUAL question.

Writing a statement, and then just adding a question mark at the end of that STATEMENT, does NOT make the STATEMENT a QUESTION.

[Age]

SEE, if, and when, you UNDERSTAND what thee ACTUAL Truth of things IS, then galactic red shift is just, self-explanatory.

It is self-explanatory, and yet you cannot explain it.

But WHY did you JUMP, so quickly, to the PRESUMPTION that I can NOT explain 'it'?

So, when, and IF, you EVER become ready to LEARN HOW to find and SEE thee ACTUAL Truth of things, for, and by, 'yourself", then just let us KNOW

I did that years ago.

REALLY, but yet you STILL BELIEVE and CLAIM that the Universe BEGAN and IS EXPANDING. The two CONTRADICT each other.

So, if you learned how to SEE thee ACTUAL Truth of things, "years ago", then what is thee ACTUAL Truth in regards to thee Universe, Itself; Did the Universe BEGIN and IS EXPANDING, or, is the Universe INFINITE and ETERNAL, or, does the Universe do something else?

I look at the evidence and I listen to people who know what they are talking about.

LOL EXACTLY like the religious person does.

What 'you', "uwot", are saying, doing and PROVIDING us here now with is a PRIME EXAMPLE of the 'believer'. 'you' are saying EXACTLY like what the 'religious' person SAYS, when they have absolutely NO 'proof' AT ALL for their BELIEFS and CLAIMS, that is; "I look at the evidence and I listen to people who know what they are talking about".

The power of BELIEFS and their ability to infiltrate the human brain and completely and utterly DISTORT and TWIST the way 'you', adult human beings, are then able to LOOK AT and SEE things is Truly amazing to WATCH and OBSERVE. To WITNESS the BLOCKAGE and PREVENTION of the True and FULL POTENTIAL within 'you' ALL, although is sad is still a process to be in awe of.

What you have also STILL NOT YET worked out is that the, so called, "evidence" is only evidence for A GUESS about what COULD BE or MIGHT BE true, right, and correct, and NOT for what is ACTUALLY True, Right, and Correct. WHEN will you COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND this FACT?

What does your method involve?

Essentially, just being Truly OPEN, which is the EXACT OPPOSITE of what 'you', "believers" ARE.

To just be Truly OPEN, one just needs to be Truly Honest, and seriously Wanting to CHANGE.

[FlashDangerpants]

If you say so.

That was a clarifying question Ken. Clarify for me.

I suggest if you would like a ANY questioned answered, for you, then you write an ACTUAL question.

Writing a statement, and then just adding a question mark at the end of that STATEMENT, does NOT make the STATEMENT a QUESTION.

CLARIFYING QUESTION KEN... Do you still claim that people as yet unborn will come to this site, specifically to read your words?

[Age]

That was a clarifying question Ken. Clarify for me.

I suggest if you would like a ANY questioned answered, for you, then you write an ACTUAL question.

Writing a statement, and then just adding a question mark at the end of that STATEMENT, does NOT make the STATEMENT a QUESTION.

CLARIFYING QUESTION KEN... Do you still claim that people as yet unborn will come to this site, specifically to read your words?

NO, and I NEVER HAVE, by the way, "flashdangerpants".

Gaining CLARITY certainly takes 'you' a LONG TIME "flashdangerpants". Have you ever thought of doing things in a DIFFERENT WAY?

[FlashDangerpants]

I suggest if you would like a ANY questioned answered, for you, then you write an ACTUAL question.

Writing a statement, and then just adding a question mark at the end of that STATEMENT, does NOT make the STATEMENT a QUESTION.

CLARIFYING QUESTION KEN... Do you still claim that people as yet unborn will come to this site, specifically to read your words?

NO, and I NEVER HAVE, by the way, "flashdangerpants".

Gaining CLARITY certainly takes 'you' a LONG TIME "flashdangerpants". Have you ever thought of doing things in a DIFFERENT WAY?

Then why did you write "future generations who WILL see and understand exactly WHAT I have been doing throughout this period here, and, more importantly WHY I have been doing it."

CLARIFYING QUESTION ... do you have some special Kenglish meaning for "WILL" now? Is "will" in Kenglish the same as "possibly might" in English or something?