CRT: Whiteness is Inherently Evil

[RCSaunders]

I actually meant the opposite of that. What about segregation, lynchings, the draft, McCarthyism...?

Well, I think it's all you were taught about in you socialist school, which is not your fault. The US is very big and very diverse. There has never been a single, "American," culture or society. I described the people and country I knew and lived in. You only know about a fraction of what existed in the US at that time that you were taught about.

It doesn't really matter, it's all gone now. Believe what you like.

Nothing to do with whatever school I went to. It's just history.

Sure!

[RCSaunders]

For those of us who lack an intimate understanding of the US leather garments industry in the mid 20th century, what colour is your state on that map?

To hear your rosy reminiscence one might assume that MLK was just a drama queen with nothing real to complain about. The real problem here is the less ancient whitesplainers than you who are just carrying on that tradition you have established.

There were no leather, "garments," made in that mill city, only leather, which was an important industrial product until the 50s. Most factories used leather belts to transfer power to all parts of manufacturing facilities in those days. There were other mill cities in the area that did make boots and shoes, and there were cotton mills and clothing manufacturers as well, but not in the city where I grew up.

If you were truly interested in the history I'd be glad to explain more, but I'll not devote any more time helping you to spread your racist prejudices.

[FlashDangerpants]

For those of us who lack an intimate understanding of the US leather garments industry in the mid 20th century, what colour is your state on that map?

To hear your rosy reminiscence one might assume that MLK was just a drama queen with nothing real to complain about. The real problem here is the less ancient whitesplainers than you who are just carrying on that tradition you have established.

There were no leather, "garments," made in that mill city, only leather, which was an important industrial product until the 50s. Most factories used leather belts to transfer power to all parts of manufacturing facilities in those days. There were other mill cities in the area that did make boots and shoes, and there were cotton mills and clothing manufacturers as well, but not in the city where I grew up.

If you were truly interested in the history I'd be glad to explain more, but I'll not devote any more time helping you to spread your racist prejudices.

If your state was Alabama or Missisiissisiisopppiii your recollection of interracial marriages going quite unmolested might be of some value. But it kinda looks like you grew up in a state where it wasn't a big deal. The problem there is that you want to insinuate that this applied widely, and I am wondering what Malcolm X and MLK and the other people who died protesting against racial injustice were even worried about, if America on the whole were all that similar to the parochial vision you are selling us.

If you don't want your vague anecdotal evidence questioned, withdraw it.

[RCSaunders]

For those of us who lack an intimate understanding of the US leather garments industry in the mid 20th century, what colour is your state on that map?

To hear your rosy reminiscence one might assume that MLK was just a drama queen with nothing real to complain about. The real problem here is the less ancient whitesplainers than you who are just carrying on that tradition you have established.

There were no leather, "garments," made in that mill city, only leather, which was an important industrial product until the 50s. Most factories used leather belts to transfer power to all parts of manufacturing facilities in those days. There were other mill cities in the area that did make boots and shoes, and there were cotton mills and clothing manufacturers as well, but not in the city where I grew up.

If you were truly interested in the history I'd be glad to explain more, but I'll not devote any more time helping you to spread your racist prejudices.

If your state was Alabama or Missisiissisiisopppiii your recollection of interracial marriages going quite unmolested might be of some value. But it kinda looks like you grew up in a state where it wasn't a big deal. The problem there is that you want to insinuate that this applied widely, and I am wondering what Malcolm X and MLK and the other people who died protesting against racial injustice were even worried about, if America on the whole were all that similar to the parochial vision you are selling us.

If you don't want your vague anecdotal evidence questioned, withdraw it.

Question it all you like. I wasn't advocating anything or making an argument. It was just a description of my experience. I'm sorry if my enjoyment of life and my relationships with others without prejudice annoys you.

I do not even object to your racist views. They do me no harm. I'm only sorry you have them, because they limit your own capacity to enjoy life and others.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Well, I think it's all you were taught about in you socialist school, which is not your fault. The US is very big and very diverse. There has never been a single, "American," culture or society. I described the people and country I knew and lived in. You only know about a fraction of what existed in the US at that time that you were taught about.

It doesn't really matter, it's all gone now. Believe what you like.

Nothing to do with whatever school I went to. It's just history.

Sure!

What is that supposed to mean? Are you saying those things never happened? I think you will find that they are all very easy to verify

[RCSaunders]

Nothing to do with whatever school I went to. It's just history.

Sure!

What is that supposed to mean? Are you saying those things never happened? I think you will find that they are all very easy to verify

It meant you were right. The events you described did take place in history.

They are totally irrelevant to what I wrote, however. I was only describing my experience where I lived, I wasn't advocating anything or making an argument, and no one has to believe it if they don't choose to.

The difference between the historical events I described and those you emphasize is mine involved no racism or prejudice, but racism and prejudice are the whole point of yours.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Sure!

What is that supposed to mean? Are you saying those things never happened? I think you will find that they are all very easy to verify

It meant you were right. The events you described did take place in history.

They are totally irrelevant to what I wrote, however. I was only describing my experience where I lived, I wasn't advocating anything or making an argument, and no one has to believe it if they don't choose to.

The difference between the historical events I described and those you emphasize is mine involved no racism or prejudice, but racism and prejudice are the whole point of yours.

The point you had made was that there was more 'freedom' in the US back in the 50s and 60s than there is now. I don't see how you could believe that.

[RCSaunders]

What is that supposed to mean? Are you saying those things never happened? I think you will find that they are all very easy to verify

It meant you were right. The events you described did take place in history.

They are totally irrelevant to what I wrote, however. I was only describing my experience where I lived, I wasn't advocating anything or making an argument, and no one has to believe it if they don't choose to.

The difference between the historical events I described and those you emphasize is mine involved no racism or prejudice, but racism and prejudice are the whole point of yours.

The point you had made was that there was more 'freedom' in the US back in the 50s and 60s than there is now. I don't see how you could believe that.

You don't have to. I actually don't think you could without actually having experienced it. It's not any fault or deficiency on your part. If I described other aspects of what it was like living in a leather manufacturing city in the 40s and 50s, of the smells and sounds, the endless variety of people and cultures, of winters when snow was ten feet high and streets not plowed, of hopping flat cars on the railroad passing through the center of the city, and swimming in flooded quarries--you might be able to imagine some of it, but could never really know what the experience was like.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

It meant you were right. The events you described did take place in history.

They are totally irrelevant to what I wrote, however. I was only describing my experience where I lived, I wasn't advocating anything or making an argument, and no one has to believe it if they don't choose to.

The difference between the historical events I described and those you emphasize is mine involved no racism or prejudice, but racism and prejudice are the whole point of yours.

The point you had made was that there was more 'freedom' in the US back in the 50s and 60s than there is now. I don't see how you could believe that.

You don't have to. I actually don't think you could without actually having experienced it. It's not any fault or deficiency on your part. If I described other aspects of what it was like living in a leather manufacturing city in the 40s and 50s, of the smells and sounds, the endless variety of people and cultures, of winters when snow was ten feet high and streets not plowed, of hopping flat cars on the railroad passing through the center of the city, and swimming in flooded quarries--you might be able to imagine some of it, but could never really know what the experience was like.

I thought it was called the UNITED states for a reason...

[Veritas Aequitas]

Exactly. You know what the strawman is.
CRT 101, race is not "inherent".

You must have known you were making a stupid inflamatory remark when you started the thread. Why be surprised when someone calls you up on it??

Can you read??

Note I stated in the OP;

[*]For CRTists, in their interpretation, being racist is being evil, i.e. not morally good.[/color]

The statements are made by the followers of CRT not me.
How come you are accusing me of "you were making a stupid inflamatory remark."
You are insulting your own intelligence.

For the CRT, "whiteness" whilst socially constructed is inherently or in another sense, implicitly evil.

You have decided to avoid the issue. Trouble is the the entire thread is named with that strawman, so you have no leg to stand on.

You are now claiming something else entirely.
Being racist IS indeed not good. This is DIFFERENT from the claim that "whiteness is inherently evil".

You are now claiming that, as yet unidentified "CRTists" are making statements ,yet you are not citing any of these mysterious people.
Strawman upon strawman.

What?

'Evil' is the opposite of 'good' within the subject of morality and ethics, thus not-good is equivalent to 'being evil'.
The CRTs with their very serious charge of negativity [not-good, bad,] on 'whiteness' is synonymous with the term 'evil'.

As usual you do not bother to research and read up on what is going on with CRT at present.
If you have done that, and if you are a good human being, you will agree with me.

Just listen to this documentary for a start.
Critical Race Theory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfmpnGV0IGc&t=383s

[Sculptor]

Can you read??

Note I stated in the OP;

[*]For CRTists, in their interpretation, being racist is being evil, i.e. not morally good.[/color]

The statements are made by the followers of CRT not me.
How come you are accusing me of "you were making a stupid inflamatory remark."
You are insulting your own intelligence.

For the CRT, "whiteness" whilst socially constructed is inherently or in another sense, implicitly evil.

You have decided to avoid the issue. Trouble is the the entire thread is named with that strawman, so you have no leg to stand on.

You are now claiming something else entirely.
Being racist IS indeed not good. This is DIFFERENT from the claim that "whiteness is inherently evil".

You are now claiming that, as yet unidentified "CRTists" are making statements ,yet you are not citing any of these mysterious people.
Strawman upon strawman.

What?

'Evil' is the opposite of 'good' within the subject of morality and ethics, thus not-good is equivalent to 'being evil'.
The CRTs with their very serious charge of negativity [not-good, bad,] on 'whiteness' is synonymous with the term 'evil'.

So what?

As usual you do not bother to research and read up on what is going on with CRT at present.
If you have done that, and if you are a good human being, you will agree with me.

I never agree with people who are talking bollocks.
You are making unsubstantiated claims, totally without ANY evidence.

Just listen to this documentary for a start.
Critical Race Theory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfmpnGV0IGc&t=383s

Opinion. Cheap propoganda Rufo is a NeoCon working for the Manhatten Institute.
This is total bollocks
This so-called "documentary" is nothing more than polemic from a Carlson Tucker funded Trumpist
Why are you so eaily taken in?
They are playing you like a cheap violin.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I just saw that Bill Cosby has been released. Oh my, the wokies will be all in a lather over how to react to it

[mickthinks]

If he's guilty of drugging young women and raping them, it's bad that Cosby's been released. He should have served his full sentence.
If he's innocent as he claims, it's good that Cosby's been released. He should never have been jailed.

I think he did it. I think you don't understand "woke", veggie.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

If he's guilty of drugging young women and raping them, it's bad that Cosby's been released. He should have served his full sentence.
If he's innocent as he claims, it's good that Cosby's been released. He should never have been jailed.

I think he did it. I think you don't understand "woke", veggie.

I don't think you understand what I mean. The woke are incredibly clueless

Btw, would it be ok if he had drugged old women? How ageist.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

There were no leather, "garments," made in that mill city, only leather, which was an important industrial product until the 50s. Most factories used leather belts to transfer power to all parts of manufacturing facilities in those days. There were other mill cities in the area that did make boots and shoes, and there were cotton mills and clothing manufacturers as well, but not in the city where I grew up.

If you were truly interested in the history I'd be glad to explain more, but I'll not devote any more time helping you to spread your racist prejudices.

If your state was Alabama or Missisiissisiisopppiii your recollection of interracial marriages going quite unmolested might be of some value. But it kinda looks like you grew up in a state where it wasn't a big deal. The problem there is that you want to insinuate that this applied widely, and I am wondering what Malcolm X and MLK and the other people who died protesting against racial injustice were even worried about, if America on the whole were all that similar to the parochial vision you are selling us.

If you don't want your vague anecdotal evidence questioned, withdraw it.

Question it all you like. I wasn't advocating anything or making an argument. It was just a description of my experience. I'm sorry if my enjoyment of life and my relationships with others without prejudice annoys you.

I do not even object to your racist views. They do me no harm. I'm only sorry you have them, because they limit your own capacity to enjoy life and others.

Flash a 'racist'? That's a new one