Understanding the religious mindset

Is there a God? If so, what is She like?

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Atla wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:29 pm
attofishpi wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:25 pm
Atla wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:09 pm
Do you? You described a pretty standard psychotic break, with flames and God talking and voices shouting etc. There are at least 4-5 users on this forum with various forms of psychosis.
My original point btw was that no matter how unlikely our world is, adding some form of God to it seems to make it even unlikelier, unless the world works by magic and we can throw all reason out the window.
Really? U have misconstrued what I have stated within this thread in your above statement...blaring what I stated so out of context, that yes indeed, I now as per above sound psychotic.

It shows either u have a lack of self assurance in yourself...or...an ego intent on bias and diminishing reason.

WANKSTAIN...show your worth and intelligent reason here, take me on (or STFU)
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Also, if you want to know, you probably see hidden messages in English words because in psychosis, mental content that should be separate, gets mixed together. The brain starts making connections between things that aren't actually connected. We start to see hidden patterns, hidden meanings everywhere, even where there are none.
O dear, u just don't real eyes how short sighted U R of the LOG_I_C system we have evolved within.

Y not take me on within that thread? U sniffed out the truth, your nose knows U can't win...ego is a shallow tear within the fathoms I swim.
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Re: Understanding the religious mindset

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attofishpi wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:41 pm
Atla wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:29 pm
attofishpi wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:25 pm

Really? U have misconstrued what I have stated within this thread in your above statement...blaring what I stated so out of context, that yes indeed, I now as per above sound psychotic.

It shows either u have a lack of self assurance in yourself...or...an ego intent on bias and diminishing reason.

WANKSTAIN...show your worth and intelligent reason here, take me on (or STFU)
viewtopic.php?t=33012
Also, if you want to know, you probably see hidden messages in English words because in psychosis, mental content that should be separate, gets mixed together. The brain starts making connections between things that aren't actually connected. We start to see hidden patterns, hidden meanings everywhere, even where there are none.
O dear, u just don't real eyes how short sighted U R of the LOG_I_C system we have evolved within.

Y not take me on within that thread? U sniffed out the truth, your nose knows U can't win...ego is a shallow tear within the fathoms I swim.
It seems to be a patchwork of psychosis, God, simulation hypothesis, karma, reincarnation, hidden meanings in words and other things etc. It's not funny, most people here are funny idiots but you're just an unlucky guy. There is no actual known God with control over our reality, you just experienced it that way sometimes.
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Walker wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 2:03 pm
RCSaunders wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:51 am
Walker wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:18 am
No, that's not much explanation, which invalidates the rest of what you wrote.

What you did is called reasoning from an invalid premise. I just called it that. You can call it that, too.

However, it does end explanation which by your false reckoning is already too long, cause you know, why waste my time on a self-appointed elevator inspector?

Plus, your attitude sucks.

You are unworthy.

:wink:
I'm really sorry you feel that way. I was just trying to give you an opportunity to explain your view.

Don't worry about. I'll live with it. Thanks for the help!
Good to hear! Here's an extra ration.

The medium is the message sure, however, take a step to change the view and message becomes the medium. The religious mindset is a mindset of rules. Like ego, rules can imprison or set free. The rules concerning the corralling of reality within a four-sided frame set Van Gogh free from his troubles for awhile, which is probably why he painted so often, always looking for awhile.

The medium of religion is a medium of rules that leads to spirituality.

For example, the practice of compassion is a practice of rules leading to the spirituality of spontaneous compassion arising from the heart. Fake it 'till you make it. Same with the practice of equanimity, or the practice of Tonglen. There are rules to follow in practices of most any religion that are intended to awaken natural spirituality that has been corrupted and thus cloaked by the ego-advisor. For instance, I figure that many religions have practices to put the mental corruption of ego-generated resentment into its proper perspective …

Christianity has rules of behavior such as the Ten Commandments, practices if you will, also with the intent of leading to perpetually manifesting spirituality. The rules of Christianity become incorporated into being because they are not arbitrary, but rather are natural to human nature. Sympatico although counter-intuitive to ego, such as Gandhi demonstrated with ahimsa.

This is why religions persist beyond random intellectual notions which are often based on mere mental machinations rather than obvious causation; for example, obvious causation is the inevitable cause and effect of giving hand-held wireless communicators to vehicle drivers who lack situational awareness.
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Re: Understanding the religious mindset

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Atla wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:01 pm
attofishpi wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:41 pm
Atla wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:29 pm
Also, if you want to know, you probably see hidden messages in English words because in psychosis, mental content that should be separate, gets mixed together. The brain starts making connections between things that aren't actually connected. We start to see hidden patterns, hidden meanings everywhere, even where there are none.
O dear, u just don't real eyes how short sighted U R of the LOG_I_C system we have evolved within.

Y not take me on within that thread? U sniffed out the truth, your nose knows U can't win...ego is a shallow tear within the fathoms I swim.
It seems to be a patchwork of psychosis, God, simulation hypothesis, karma, reincarnation, hidden meanings in words and other things etc. It's not funny, most people here are funny idiots but you're just an unlucky guy. There is no actual known God with control over our reality, you just experienced it that way sometimes.
You attempting to put me in a stereotypical pigeon hole because of your manifested bias is laughable and really rather sad.

How being given a wad of cash into my bank account by the God system somehow renders me 'unlucky' according to U is rather ironic, indeed pathetic. I never have to work again, but I will continue with the art project IT has set me upon.

The fact that you refuse to allow your ego to be tested-tainted by engaging whatever consists between your ears is a TEST_AMEN_T to your lack of self confidence in your shallow faith in atheism.

:twisted:

BTW...I am soooo psychotic and u r soo intelligent. FFS.
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Re: Understanding the religious mindset

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attofishpi wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:54 pm
Atla wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:01 pm
attofishpi wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:41 pm

O dear, u just don't real eyes how short sighted U R of the LOG_I_C system we have evolved within.

Y not take me on within that thread? U sniffed out the truth, your nose knows U can't win...ego is a shallow tear within the fathoms I swim.
It seems to be a patchwork of psychosis, God, simulation hypothesis, karma, reincarnation, hidden meanings in words and other things etc. It's not funny, most people here are funny idiots but you're just an unlucky guy. There is no actual known God with control over our reality, you just experienced it that way sometimes.
You attempting to put me in a stereotypical pigeon hole because of your manifested bias is laughable and really rather sad.

How being given a wad of cash into my bank account by the God system somehow renders me 'unlucky' according to U is rather ironic, indeed pathetic. I never have to work again, but I will continue with the art project IT has set me upon.

The fact that you refuse to allow your ego to be tested-tainted by engaging whatever consists between your ears is a TEST_AMEN_T to your lack of self confidence in your shallow faith in atheism.

:twisted:

BTW...I am soooo psychotic and u r soo intelligent. FFS.
You really think this wordplay nonsense is a test? :) Tot-Aller UNSinn I-tally-ho

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Re: Understanding the religious mindset

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Atla wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:28 pm
attofishpi wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:54 pm
Atla wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:01 pm
It seems to be a patchwork of psychosis, God, simulation hypothesis, karma, reincarnation, hidden meanings in words and other things etc. It's not funny, most people here are funny idiots but you're just an unlucky guy. There is no actual known God with control over our reality, you just experienced it that way sometimes.
You attempting to put me in a stereotypical pigeon hole because of your manifested bias is laughable and really rather sad.

How being given a wad of cash into my bank account by the God system somehow renders me 'unlucky' according to U is rather ironic, indeed pathetic. I never have to work again, but I will continue with the art project IT has set me upon.

The fact that you refuse to allow your ego to be tested-tainted by engaging whatever consists between your ears is a TEST_AMEN_T to your lack of self confidence in your shallow faith in atheism.

:twisted:

BTW...I am soooo psychotic and u r soo intelligent. FFS.
You really think this wordplay nonsense is a test? :) Tot-Aller UNSinn I-tally-ho

Attila the Hun
A 'till' A the Hun
A 'till' A the One
Atla the One
Atla thee own
WTF is that? ...just proof U have no idea of the system R consciousness is embedded indeed entwined within.

The Germs are playing the En_Gland.

It's half time, so next time, actually attempt to impel some actual logic of this LAN_gauge U were fortunate to have been incarnated within.

Other_wise Foxtrot Oscar.
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Re: Understanding the religious mindset

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attofishpi wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:54 pm
Atla wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:28 pm
attofishpi wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:54 pm

You attempting to put me in a stereotypical pigeon hole because of your manifested bias is laughable and really rather sad.

How being given a wad of cash into my bank account by the God system somehow renders me 'unlucky' according to U is rather ironic, indeed pathetic. I never have to work again, but I will continue with the art project IT has set me upon.

The fact that you refuse to allow your ego to be tested-tainted by engaging whatever consists between your ears is a TEST_AMEN_T to your lack of self confidence in your shallow faith in atheism.

:twisted:

BTW...I am soooo psychotic and u r soo intelligent. FFS.
You really think this wordplay nonsense is a test? :) Tot-Aller UNSinn I-tally-ho

Attila the Hun
A 'till' A the Hun
A 'till' A the One
Atla the One
Atla thee own
WTF is that? ...just proof U have no idea of the system R consciousness is embedded indeed entwined within.

The Germs are playing the En_Gland.

It's half time, so next time, actually attempt to impel some actual logic of this LAN_gauge U were fortunate to have been incarnated within.

Other_wise Foxtrot Oscar.
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Alter!

Alter! N-EIN, WIR-kl-ICH, wie alt b-IST du?

I'm not German but it seems to me that German is the true chosen language of God. You with your English words are just heretics.
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Atla wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:01 pm
attofishpi wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:54 pm
Atla wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:28 pm
You really think this wordplay nonsense is a test? :) Tot-Aller UNSinn I-tally-ho

Attila the Hun
A 'till' A the Hun
A 'till' A the One
Atla the One
Atla thee own
WTF is that? ...just proof U have no idea of the system R consciousness is embedded indeed entwined within.

The Germs are playing the En_Gland.

It's half time, so next time, actually attempt to impel some actual logic of this LAN_gauge U were fortunate to have been incarnated within.

Other_wise Foxtrot Oscar.
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Alter!

Alter! N-EIN, WIR-kl-ICH, wie alt b-IST du?

I'm not German but it seems to me that German is the true chosen language of God. You with your English words are just heretics.
It cannot be since Hund backwards does not spell Gott, it spells Dnuh
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Sculptor wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:06 pm
Atla wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:01 pm Atla
Alta
Alter!

Alter! N-EIN, WIR-kl-ICH, wie alt b-IST du?

I'm not German but it seems to me that German is the true chosen language of God. You with your English words are just heretics.
It cannot be since Hund backwards does not spell Gott, it spells Dnuh
Gott
Ttog
Tag - day, daylight

The glorious light of day shines through all who embrace the chosen language; while the English heretics can roll with the dogs in the dirt.
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Atla wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:21 pm
Sculptor wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:06 pm
Atla wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:01 pm Atla
Alta
Alter!

Alter! N-EIN, WIR-kl-ICH, wie alt b-IST du?

I'm not German but it seems to me that German is the true chosen language of God. You with your English words are just heretics.
It cannot be since Hund backwards does not spell Gott, it spells Dnuh
Gott
Ttog
Tag - day, daylight

The glorious light of day shines through all who embrace the chosen language; while the English heretics can roll with the dogs in the dirt.
You clearly talk illogical shit so roll in it.

The Europeans, when the English seemed always to get the upper hand in battles across the vast oceans, referred to them as Insidious Albion, they believed God somehow had some hand to play in the affairs of the English.

BRITAIN ....breaks down to....BR__IT__AIN

The IT in the middle, once removed ..could be the AI component of the God system...leaves BRAIN. ...and let's face it, without God's hand in the minds of the British that formulated the world into its current state, would be a far worse shithole of corruption as in what the gold hungry non scientific that of Spain and Portugal, indeed France would have rendered it.

So yeah, the righteous God fearers on the whole were reincarnated through British stock. And yes through the synapses of those folk derived from from many languages, natural language etymology was left to wither in the face of the LOGIC God insisted on the language that was destined to be THE common protocol for communication across the globe.

I'd truly be interested in the phonetics of the alphabet that homophonically can translate as actual words in other LAN_gauges.

,..and I do hope U understand Y I use LAN (a Local Area Network) as a gauge. It is where our uniqueness ace began, indeed our RACE == R_ace.

Y do humans have a RACE?

Y = why?
U = you, yew, ewe
O = owe, oh
R = ah, our
I = eye
G = gee
C = see, Sea, = sin waves = the light.


The above may seem like wack job material to you, but it has far more rationale than the bollocks U just posted.

GOD = gee OD. :D
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attofishpi wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:41 pm
Atla wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:21 pm
Sculptor wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:06 pm

It cannot be since Hund backwards does not spell Gott, it spells Dnuh
Gott
Ttog
Tag - day, daylight

The glorious light of day shines through all who embrace the chosen language; while the English heretics can roll with the dogs in the dirt.
You clearly talk illogical shit so roll in it.

The Europeans, when the English seemed always to get the upper hand in battles across the vast oceans, referred to them as Insidious Albion, they believed God somehow had some hand to play in the affairs of the English.

BRITAIN ....breaks down to....BR__IT__AIN

The IT in the middle, once removed ..could be the AI component of the God system...leaves BRAIN. ...and let's face it, without God's hand in the minds of the British that formulated the world into its current state, would be a far worse shithole of corruption as in what the gold hungry non scientific that of Spain and Portugal, indeed France would have rendered it.

So yeah, the righteous God fearers on the whole were reincarnated through British stock. And yes through the synapses of those folk derived from from many languages, natural language etymology was left to wither in the face of the LOGIC God insisted on the language that was destined to be THE common protocol for communication across the globe.

I'd truly be interested in the phonetics of the alphabet that homophonically can translate as actual words in other LAN_gauges.

,..and I do hope U understand Y I use LAN (a Local Area Network) as a gauge. It is where our uniqueness ace began, indeed our RACE == R_ace.

Y do humans have a RACE?

Y = why?
U = you, yew, ewe
O = owe, oh
R = ah, our
I = eye
G = gee
C = see, Sea, = sin waves = the light.


The above may seem like wack job material to you, but it has far more rationale than the bollocks U just posted.

GOD = gee OD. :D
Britain

(Br)azilians (Ita)lians (In)dians. Gott wanted to mock the English heretics, so he made all kinds of foreigners overrun Britain. Gott even named the country accordingly, long before it got overrun.
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Atla to attofishpi wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:09 pm You described a pretty standard psychotic break, with flames and God talking and voices shouting etc. There are at least 4-5 users on this forum with various forms of psychosis.
Yes... and apparently most of them live off government systems of support, while proclaiming themselves and their self-glorified psychotic, idiotic, and/or drunken fogs uniquely and extraordinarily special, meaningful, and/or divine for humankind... on an online forum. :lol:

But, I guess, what else are they going to do to claim any kind of validity or credibility: just make up so much shit that they can thoroughly wrap themselves up in (and possibly associate it with a god, which is a common tactic), so that they never have to see or deal with all that is beyond their very small and self-serving cocoon.
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What's your point?
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Atla wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:46 am If say, 1 in 10^500 worlds can produce little humans who can create computers, then a world which produced a Berkeleyan God is more like 1 in 10^500^500.
It only has to have happened just one time in the infinite depths of past eternity. After that, the creation of a Berkeleyan God (such as you, for example) can be achieved through the simplicity of one ecstatic moment in the backseat of a Chevy Impala at a drive-in theatre.

Btw, while we are on the subject of 10^500 worlds, please describe for me the purpose of the existence of a universe that is completely devoid of any trace of life and consciousness. What would its inner-workings consist of?
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Walker wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:09 am
seeds wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:49 pm
Walker wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:34 pm

It's a lunch, with leftovers.
What the heck is that supposed to mean? :?
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It’s a rich metaphor leaning literal. :|
Ah, I see. If it's leaning toward "literal," then what you are saying is that you want to eat the elephant for lunch. However, because it is so large, there will be leftovers. Got it. (Is your real name "Chauncey Gardener" by any chance? :D)
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