the limits of fascism

[tillingborn]

A joke for you Skepdick: A hunter and a guide were stalking tigers. When they spotted one, the hunter aimed and pulled the trigger. His rifle jammed. At that point the tiger charged and the guide started running. 'Don't be a fool!' said the hunter, 'You'll never outrun a tiger.' 'I don't have to.' said the guide, 'I only have to outrun you.'

Usually, that's when the hunter shoots the guide in the leg...

Really? There's still a tiger bearing down on him.

[Skepdick]

Really? There's still a tiger bearing down on him.

The joke being that if anybody's outrunning the tiger's meal, the gunshot wound to the leg might be a disadvantage.

[tillingborn]

Really? There's still a tiger bearing down on him.

The joke being that if anybody's outrunning the tiger's meal, the gunshot wound to the leg might be a disadvantage.

The general rule with jokes is that if you have explain them, they're not funny.

[Skepdick]

The general rule with jokes is that if you have explain them, they're not funny.

I was told that some jokes are funny only because they are true.

[tillingborn]

I was told that some jokes are funny only because they are true.

Did your source give any examples?

[Skepdick]

I was told that some jokes are funny only because they are true.

Did your source give any examples?

Yeah... this very joke.

[tillingborn]

I was told that some jokes are funny only because they are true.

Did your source give any examples?

Yeah... this very joke.

It's the same joke. Do you think it's true?

[Skepdick]

It's the same joke. Do you think it's true?

Of course it's true.

Competition and self-preservation gives rise to unfairness and dirty tactics.

It pokes fun at human nature. That's why it's funny.

[tillingborn]

Competition gives rise to unfairness and dirty tactics.

If only there was a snappy way of saying so; something like dog eats dog.

It pokes fun at human nature. That's why it's funny.

You mean like the original joke with tigers and jammed rifles?

[Skepdick]

If only there was a snappy way of saying so; something like dog eats dog.

If only there was only one way to express the same sentiment.

You mean like the original joke with tigers and jammed rifles?

You mean the joke I already knew, but you decided to tell it to me anyway?

Which leaves stuck with the original question. How can I possibly tell you what you don't already know, when you can't even tell me what it is you don't know?

[tillingborn]

If only there was a snappy way of saying so; something like dog eats dog.

If only there was only one way to express the same sentiment.

It's been done. If you're not happy with any of the current iterations, feel free to throw your own contribution into the ring.

You mean like the original joke with tigers and jammed rifles?

You mean the joke I already knew, but you decided to tell it to me anyway?

That's always a chance with telling jokes. Should people stop telling jokes because you might have heard them?

Which leaves stuck with the original question. How can I possibly tell you what you don't already know, when you can't even tell me what it is you don't know?

Tricky isn't it? The stuff I do know is dwarfed by the stuff I don't know. It's a bit like jokes.

[Skepdick]

It's been done. If you're not happy with any of the current iterations, feel free to throw your own contribution into the ring.

That's always a chance with saying stuff. Should people stop expressing thoughts because somebody has already done it?

Tricky isn't it? The stuff I do know is dwarfed by the stuff I don't know.

That's been said already. Why are you throwing your own contribution into the ring?

If it's tricky for you to know what you don't know, imagine how much harder it is for others when you ask them to tell you things you don't already know.

It seems to require skills akin to mind-reading.

[tillingborn]

If it's tricky for you to know what you don't know, imagine how much harder it is for others when you ask them to tell you things you don't already know.

My point exactly. If it helps you to put it into your own words, so that it fits your narrative, go ahead. If you need to believe that you are the only person who gets it, then believe it. If you were just a little bit smarter, I wouldn't need to ask, but why do people like you and Immanuel Can have to be right?

[Skepdick]

My point exactly. If it helps you to put it into your own words, so that it fits your narrative, go ahead.

I don't have or need a narrative

If you need to believe that you are the only person who gets it, then believe it. If you were just a little bit smarter, I wouldn't need to ask,

Seems this fits into your narrative quite well then.

I know that you and everybody else gets it. Which is just fine. What I don't understand is why you keep playing language games when you understand that they lead nowhere except in circles.

Surely you must have a reason for doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result? Perhaps you can start by giving your reason (your intentions and desires) a name?

but why do people like you and Immanuel Can have to be right?

Have you considered that we know that it's impossible to be "right"? And so that's not at all what we are trying to do.

I certainly know it's impossible, but for some reason it fits into your narrative to believe otherwise about me.

[tillingborn]

Have you considered that we know that it's impossible to be "right"? And so that's not at all what we are trying to do.

I have considered all sorts of possibilities, but I have to base them on the material you present. Where do you think the similarities between you and Immanuel Can stop?

I certainly know it's impossible, but for some reason it fits into your narrative to believe otherwise about me.

As I have said, I am happy to be proven wrong. So show me that you are more than just a dick.