the limits of fascism

[Immanuel Can]

Oh. No answer, then. Just evasion.

You lied. I might have expected that.

It's not a lie

Yeah, I'm thinking it is. If it were not, you'd have no problem saying where it was.

And then, of course, you could go on and explain to us why such a miserable existence as you claim to have had is what you want to see exported to everybody else...but that's a secondary point.

Either way, it's a crock.

[Skepdick]

Yeah, I'm thinking it is. If it were not, you'd have no problem saying where it was.

I am thinking if you were not a trash human being you'd believe me without me having to say it

After all. I could lie about that too, no? How could you possible determine that I am not from a Cuba, USSA, Venezuela, or Vietnam?

[Immanuel Can]

How could you possible determine that I am not from a Cuba, USSA, Venezuela, or Vietnam?

Well, because there's no "USSA," for one thing: it was called the "USSR." And if you'd been to any of the other three, you'd know darn well that Socialism is a recipe for misery, poverty and homicide. But you seem to be living in some sort of Disneyland, where "the next Socialism" is going to turn out to produce nothing that "the other Socialisms" have produced, and all the things you dream of having, instead.

So the total lack of grasp of reality makes me think you don't have a clue what you're talking about, just as the petulance makes me think you're a teenager.

[Skepdick]

Well, because there's no "USSA," for one thing: it was called the "USSR." And if you'd been to any of the other three, you'd know darn well that Socialism is a recipe for misery, poverty and homicide. But you seem to be living in some sort of Disneyland, where "the next Socialism" is going to turn out to produce nothing that "the other Socialisms" have produced, and all the things you dream of having, instead.

So the total lack of grasp of reality makes me think you don't have a clue what you're talking about, just as the petulance makes me think you're a teenager.

Q.E.D Trash There's no "USSR". It was called СССР. Сою́з Сове́тских Социалисти́ческих Респу́блик.

Have at it, Don Quixote. Swing your impotence at the windmill!

Your repertoire is exactly that of a teenager.

[Impenitent]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ArlUSVDQIw

-Imp

[henry quirk]

I'm sure there are winners and losers in both systems, so which works better depends on who for?

I suspect both work as well as any gov-administered program can.


Nobody here goes bankrupt because of medical bills, which is a right you still enjoy in the States.

Goin belly up used be weighty...nowadays, it's lost much of its sting.


The state pension is pretty basic, so if you want gold toilet seats in your dotage, you will have to put a bit extra aside.

Same here with SS.


Yeah, there's all sorts of ways that resourceful or unscrupulous people can buck the system, and the chances of being imprisoned here are way less than in America.

Apart from how it advertises itself, the IRS is undermanned and overburdened. For every high-profile case of tax evasion, hundreds, mebbe even thousands are flyin' under the radar.


We don't have private prisons, so there's no particular appetite for cheap labour in prison sweat shops.

I got a divided mind on private prisons. Wanna hear why, and a possible solution?


I know as many Americans living in the UK as I know Brits in the US and everyone seems happy where they are.

People make do.

[henry quirk]

The point is that you don't actually know WHAT you are.

Agreed.

America is schizophrenic, and has been for a long time.

Are we The United States of America, the constitutional republic?

Are we America, the feel-good democracy?

Are we 'murica, the land of practical libertarians?

Are we The American State?

And those are just the big, obvious possibilities.

There are dozens of less obvious strains of thinkin' flittin' about as well.

[tillingborn]

I did a search and the first time you mention 'cancel culture' was four days ago on 10/3/21.

You're so funny! You think that the first time I mentioned it is the first time I knew about it? How did I manage to mention it, if I didn't already know about it? That doesn't even add up.

Are you arguing that you don't think "cancel culture" is a thing?

As I said:

You are completely immersed in a right wing echo chamber that cancels anything it doesn't like - you are doing it right now - that little brain of yours is putting the lid on the previous paragraph and intends to carry on as if it never happened.

Since you have erased the paragraph in question from your memory, I shall repeat it, so that you can forget it all over again:

This 'cancel culture' thing is laughable. If you look at the history of cancel culture; from the Catholic Index, the burning of witches, unions, music, books and films that have been banned, to suggest that whiney little left wing busy bodies have a monopoly on being censorious is to cancel reality.

Complaints about self righteous censorship are nothing new. Attacks on academia are nothing new. Both are tactics embraced by oppressive regimes on the left and right and both are made by you. Despite your boasts of being someone I would respect, if only I knew who you really are, there is no evidence in anything you write to suggest that you are capable of coming up with this stuff. You are being played; Fox News says 'Say Cancel Culture' and right on cue, Immanuel Can says "Cancel Culture". Your mind is no longer your own, and the only way to get it back is to be honest with yourself.

[tillingborn]

I got a divided mind on private prisons. Wanna hear why, and a possible solution?

Let's hear it.

[Advocate]

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[quote="henry quirk" post_id=502363 time=1615752980 user_id=472]I got a divided mind on private prisons. Wanna hear why, and a possible solution?[/quote]Let's hear it.
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New post please. This one is already excessive.

[Immanuel Can]

This 'cancel culture' thing is laughable.

Maybe you should go back to reading your Dr. Seuss books.

Oh, wait...you can't...they've been cancelled by the "cancel culture" you insist doesn't exist. https://www.wsj.com/articles/dr-seuss-t ... 1615333408

or let's see what the Lefty loonies at CNN have to say...
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/08/us/2019- ... ories-trnd

[henry quirk]

I got a divided mind on private prisons. Wanna hear why, and a possible solution?

Let's hear it.

My divided mind: on one hand, I'm not a fan of the State lockin' folks up (cuz I'm biased against the State); on the other, I'm no fan of privately owned prisons (no one ought make a profit on lockin' folks up cuz the incentive, the temptation, is to see increasin' numbers of folks locked up: justice abused).

The (road to a) solution: the bulk of folks servin' time do so for drug offenses (producin', holdin', sellin', or usin' drugs). As a natural rights libertarian, I believe a person's life, liberty, and property are only forfeit, in part or whole, if that person knowingly, willingly, without just cause, deprives another, in part or whole, of life, liberty, or property. Certainly, a drug user/producer/seller can steal and murder, but the actual use/production/sale of drugs alone rarely involves depriving another of life, liberty, or property.

Decriminalizin' (not legalizin') the use/production/sale of drugs, and commuting the sentences of all current non-violent offenders to time served, would reduce prison populations, restore courts -- at least partially -- to the proper role of adjudicator, and take a whole whack of dirty money out of the system.

[henry quirk]

I got a divided mind on private prisons. Wanna hear why, and a possible solution?

Let's hear it.

New post please. This one is already excessive.

What's excessive?

[tillingborn]

This 'cancel culture' thing is laughable.

Maybe you should go back to reading your Dr. Seuss books.

Oh, wait...you can't...they've been cancelled by the "cancel culture" you insist doesn't exist.

That didn't take long. Have another look at the sentence I have twice said you would forget:

If you look at the history of cancel culture; from the Catholic Index, the burning of witches, unions, music, books and films that have been banned, to suggest that whiney little left wing busy bodies have a monopoly on being censorious is to cancel reality.

You have been brainwashed. You literally cannot see what another person actually writes; you can only see what your right wing echo chamber tells you they will write. They have lied to you so successfully that you now lie to yourself - I write "If you look at the history of cancel culture", you read 'There is no cancel culture'. You have a parasite in your brain and it is turning you into a moron. I hope it is not too late, and that you can fight it.

[tillingborn]

Decriminalizin' (not legalizin') the use/production/sale of drugs, and commuting the sentences of all current non-violent offenders to time served, would reduce prison populations, restore courts -- at least partially -- to the proper role of adjudicator, and take a whole whack of dirty money out of the system.

Dirty money is only dirty because the State says so. I don't think we'll ever get rid of criminals and producing and selling drugs gives them something to do. I think there's scope for tweaking the system, but I'm sure it is completely counterproductive to criminalise consumption.