That's not right either. You can't literally express concepts. What I express might be correlated to concepts, though.
Not that this has jackshit to do with what I said above. It's not as if the world is solely comprised of things I express.
That's not right either. You can't literally express concepts. What I express might be correlated to concepts, though.
What concept of "rightness" are you holding as normative?
Who gets to decide that? Hint: not you.Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:06 pm You can't literally express concepts. What I express might be correlated to concepts, though.
Then how have you asserted that what I said is "not right"?
By the fact that you're saying something that's inaccurate. Has nothing to do with an idea of what you ought to do.
What concept of "accuracy" are you holding as normative?Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:16 pm By the fact that you're saying something that's inaccurate.
Again, none. P is accurate if it matches what's the case. It's inaccurate if it doesn't. There's no normativity to that.Skepdick wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:18 pmWhat concept of "accuracy" are you holding as normative?Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:16 pm By the fact that you're saying something that's inaccurate.
Then how have you asserted that what I said is "inaccurate"?
What sort of concept of "matching" are you holding as normative?Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:19 pm P is accurate if it matches what's the case. It's inaccurate if it doesn't.
Yeah there is. The mechanism by which a relationship is established between P and "the case" is normative.
You assume direct experience. Which means you also assume that my experience is as direct as yours.Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:34 pm By the fact that we can't literally express concepts.
Are concepts the same thing as pixel activations on a screen in your view?Skepdick wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:35 pmYou assume direct experience. Which means you also assume that my experience is as direct as yours.Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:34 pm By the fact that we can't literally express concepts.
In order to assert that what I am saying is "not the case" you are necessarily claiming that my direct experience of "the case" is wrong and yours is "right"
Fuck you?
I am literally observing myself literally expressing concepts. And you are telling me that I am not doing it.
Fuck you again?
There's a universe in which they are the same, and a universe in which they are not the same.Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:38 pm Are concepts the same thing as pixel activations on a screen in your view?
There's only one universe.Skepdick wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:40 pmThere's a universe in which they are the same, and a universe in which they are not the same.Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:38 pm Are concepts the same thing as pixel activations on a screen in your view?
How would we distinguish the two universes in your view?
Then you should have absolutely no problem telling me which one is THE ONE!