Trump worst prsident ever

[Terrapin Station]

he has a large number of legal problems pending and a troubled business empire

That was the story of his career.

[Lacewing]

Yeah I know that you've been pissed at me for some time now.

No, I'm not. Truly. I respond to each poster on this forum in the moment, and I'm pretty much always open to new potential to be experienced with people. (Although some may be more of a challenge to look past their relentlessly intoxicated patterns.)

But we do agree on occasion, and I prefer it when we do!

I agree!

I also agree with your response to Veggie. Her blanket characterizations of Americans... or "wokies"... or whatever fucking label and blanket she feels like perpetuating and applying at any given moment... does nothing more than suggest/reveal her own stupidity that she tries to mask with arrogant contempt. I prefer when she rises above that and makes good points.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Yeah I know that you've been pissed at me for some time now.

No, I'm not. Truly. I respond to each poster on this forum in the moment, and I'm pretty much always open to new potential to be experienced with people. (Although some may be more of a challenge to look past their relentlessly intoxicated patterns.)

But we do agree on occasion, and I prefer it when we do!

I agree!

I also agree with your response to Veggie. Her blanket characterizations of Americans... or "wokies"... or whatever fucking label and blanket she feels like perpetuating and applying at any given moment... does nothing more than suggest/reveal her own stupidity that she tries to mask with arrogant contempt. I prefer when she rises above that and makes good points.

I've not 'trying' to do, or be, anything on here (unlike some I could mention). What would be the point? Like I said to SOB, when you agree with me I'm 'ok', and when you don't I'm 'just being a bitch'. Actually I'm the same all the time, you are just too stupid to realise it.
SOB took exception to what I said about the virus and America's terrible health care system, homelessness problem, and rampant obesity and junk food consumption. OF COURSE those people are going to have poor immune systems which can be knocked out by just about ANY virus! That's not Trump's fault. Sculptor is just running scared because his own immune system is so compromised through a lifetime of abuse.

[Lacewing]

I've not 'trying' to do, or be, anything on here (unlike some I could mention).

You like to accuse me of this, which is wrong. I'm not pretending or trying to be anything either. I am genuine. You may simply not understand that. But, as with all of your claims against people you don't know, being wrong won't stop you.

Like I said to SOB, when you agree with me I'm 'ok', and when you don't I'm 'just being a bitch'. Actually I'm the same all the time, you are just too stupid to realise it

No, actually you're being shallow in your characterizations (as usual). I do not have to agree with you to appreciate the points you make. And I do not have to disagree with you to realize that you lead with your bitch card much of the time. I do not have to agree or disagree with you to realize when you're being stupid.

SOB took exception to what I said about the virus and America's terrible health care system, homelessness problem, and rampant obesity and junk food consumption. OF COURSE those people are going to have poor immune systems which can be knocked out by just about ANY virus!

Well that makes sense. But it does not make sense that you apply it to all Americans. Many Americans are very health conscious. Your valid points get lost in your bitchy generalizations of contempt.

That's not Trump's fault.

No, those things are not Trump's fault. But it IS Trump's fault that he's a lying idiot who has neglected and mismanaged his leadership role during a pandemic.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I've not 'trying' to do, or be, anything on here (unlike some I could mention).

You like to accuse me of this, which is wrong. I'm not pretending or trying to be anything either. I am genuine. You may simply not understand that. But, as with all of your claims against people you don't know, being wrong won't stop you.

Like I said to SOB, when you agree with me I'm 'ok', and when you don't I'm 'just being a bitch'. Actually I'm the same all the time, you are just too stupid to realise it

No, actually you're being shallow in your characterizations (as usual). I do not have to agree with you to appreciate the points you make. And I do not have to disagree with you to realize that you lead with your bitch card much of the time. I do not have to agree or disagree with you to realize when you're being stupid.

SOB took exception to what I said about the virus and America's terrible health care system, homelessness problem, and rampant obesity and junk food consumption. OF COURSE those people are going to have poor immune systems which can be knocked out by just about ANY virus!

Well that makes sense. But it does not make sense that you apply it to all Americans. Many Americans are very health conscious. Your valid points get lost in your bitchy generalizations of contempt.

That's not Trump's fault.

No, those things are not Trump's fault. But it IS Trump's fault that he's a lying idiot who has neglected and mismanaged his leadership role during a pandemic.

And the Americans who are health conscious, with good immune systems and access to health care are the ones surviving the pandemic! Do I have to spell EVERYTHING out???
Actually there are a lot of things about Americans that I admire, and I even point them out on occasion. It's not as if I'm exactly in love with where I come from. It's NOTHING like the bs propaganda. 'Clean and green' my arse. They are clear-felling trees here for absolutely NO REASON other than that they aren't Politically Correct. Yes, this country is riddled with wokie wankers too, and the entire Govt. is made up of wokie hypocrites. It's racism agains trees, and the most beautiful and useful trees too!

[Lacewing]

And the Americans who are health conscious, with good immune systems and access to health care are the ones surviving the pandemic!

I'm making the point that your typical generalized characterizations of Americans are WRONG. It's the same way you accuse people you don't know of being Wokies. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about when you make these absurd blanket claims.

Actually there are a lot of things about Americans that I admire, and I even point them out on occasion.

Do tell! I've never seen what you've said in that regard.

They are clear-felling trees here for absolutely NO REASON other than that they aren't Politically Correct. It's racism agains trees, and the most beautiful and useful trees too!

I live in the woods and see logging trucks often. I don't like it either. And I watched my neighbor cut down many acres of old-growth forest, and then all the displaced animals frantically relocated across my land, wild upset turkeys (who are normally peaceful) even attacking my chickens.

I try to consider a lot of different factors in every scenario. It's not all one way or another. The "black and white" model of thinking is lazy and fearful. There are always variances... and in the case of humankind, seemingly endless potential. So your blanket claims about people/populations ring similar to the same dishonest caliber/shock-value as Trump, rather than anything close to a broader, balanced truth.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

And the Americans who are health conscious, with good immune systems and access to health care are the ones surviving the pandemic!

I'm making the point that your typical generalized characterizations of Americans are WRONG. It's the same way you accuse people you don't know of being Wokies. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about when you make these absurd blanket claims.

Actually there are a lot of things about Americans that I admire, and I even point them out on occasion.

Do tell! I've never seen what you've said in that regard.

They are clear-felling trees here for absolutely NO REASON other than that they aren't Politically Correct. It's racism agains trees, and the most beautiful and useful trees too!

I live in the woods and see logging trucks often. I don't like it either. And I watched my neighbor cut down many acres of old-growth forest, and then all the displaced animals frantically relocated across my land, wild upset turkeys (who are normally peaceful) even attacking my chickens.

I try to consider a lot of different factors in every scenario. It's not all one way or another. The "black and white" model of thinking is lazy and fearful. There are always variances... and in the case of humankind, seemingly endless potential. So your blanket claims about people/populations ring similar to the same dishonest caliber/shock-value as Trump, rather than anything close to a broader, balanced truth.

Of course humans are individuals when you break them down to a certain level. Just as we are all made of atoms. It depends on what perspective you are looking at them from. An alien watching us from space would say we are war-crazed, violent imbeciles who are deliberately destroying our own home. I don't live in the US, I can only go by the IMPRESSION it gives, on a large scale, because of the fact that there are ENOUGH INDIVIDUALS with certain common traits and way of doing things for that to come across as a kind of 'collective personality' (or culture, if you prefer). It's just unfortunate for you that the impression that comes across to the rest of the world is one of LOUD and barking mad, and that's a country that produced someone like Carl Sagan (a long time ago). The same thing happens with large corporations. Yes, they are composed of INDIVIDUALS, doing their INDIVIDUAL tasks, but as a collective whole the result can be pretty evil (the 'whole' being greater than the.....). When I think of China, or Russia, or the US, they all have different personalities. Everyone knows this, or no one would EVER say things like 'the Chinese are hard working', 'The French are cultured and sophisticated'. Why is it only considered 'true' when it's positive things?

[commonsense]

It ain’t necessarily true when you rely on stereotypes.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

It ain’t necessarily true when you rely on stereotypes.

Tell that to the entire human race then. You obviously don't understand what I'm getting at.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Although Carl Sagan probably wouldn't have survived the puritan wokie mobs if he was around now. I'm sure he wasn't a saint. I'm surprised that they haven't tried to 'ban' the theory of relativity because Einstein wasn't exactly saintly either when it came to his skills as a spouse...

Apparently there's a movement to 'cancel' Beethoven because he's 'too white'. (Yes, that's true).

[Dubious]

Apparently there's a movement to 'cancel' Beethoven because he's 'too white'. (Yes, that's true).

In that case it would be necessary to cancel everyone of the great composers because they were ALL white including Bach, Handel, Mozart, Haydn and especially Wagner. Do that and the human race will finally have proved itself insane.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Apparently there's a movement to 'cancel' Beethoven because he's 'too white'. (Yes, that's true).

In that case it would be necessary to cancel everyone of the great composers because they were ALL white including Bach, Handel, Mozart, Haydn and especially Wagner. Do that and the human race will finally have proved itself insane.

Warning. It may induce vomiting.

https://www.varsity.co.uk/music/20344

[Gary Childress]

Apparently there's a movement to 'cancel' Beethoven because he's 'too white'. (Yes, that's true).

In that case it would be necessary to cancel everyone of the great composers because they were ALL white including Bach, Handel, Mozart, Haydn and especially Wagner. Do that and the human race will finally have proved itself insane.

Warning. It may induce vomiting.

https://www.varsity.co.uk/music/20344

The feminist musicologist Susan McClary infamously compared the recapitulation in his Ninth Symphony to “the throttling murderous rage of a rapist incapable of attaining release”.

Where do people come up with this stuff? Overactive imaginations?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

In that case it would be necessary to cancel everyone of the great composers because they were ALL white including Bach, Handel, Mozart, Haydn and especially Wagner. Do that and the human race will finally have proved itself insane.

Warning. It may induce vomiting.

https://www.varsity.co.uk/music/20344

The feminist musicologist Susan McClary infamously compared the recapitulation in his Ninth Symphony to “the throttling murderous rage of a rapist incapable of attaining release”.

Where do people come up with this stuff? Overactive imaginations?

She's only displaying her own sick, perverted, 'unreleased' wokie mind. I think she probably feels shame and self-loathing at the fact that she likes to masturbate to Beethoven's 9th.

[Veritas Aequitas]

Trump propoganda is NOT evidence.

As I had stated the White House would not have kept those listing of Trump's achievements if there is no evidences and elements of truth in it at all.

Who do you think wrote all that BS?
Answer the Trump Administration.
You really do not understand how this works.
This is not a sober account by the Civil Service.
What has been listed is a Eulogy by a dictator.

This is an "Archive" written by the ourgoing administration.
It's about as unbiased as Augustus' Res Gestae, and has a similar purpose.

"ALL that BS" ?? ALL?
You are really a brainwashed zombie that lack intelligence.

I don't believe they are ALL BS [lies], but like any thing political they are generally true but with some elements of spinning.
Show me evidence of an outright lie from that listing.