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SpheresOfBalance wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:43 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:30 am
SpheresOfBalance wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:54 am
You're a clown of hate, my friend. Go fester in a hole somewhere, no one here cares about your sad sack life and your venom, you're a loser my dear. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

How's that? Now it's your turn to believe you have the high road by coloring even more laughy faces in your coloring book. Bitter Child! :lol:
Not my fault you are offended by the truth. Idiot.
Not offended, I could give a fuck about what you spew. Just getting tired of your never ending shit that means absolutely nothing. Oh and I got your idiot hanging. Bitter Bitch! Hey I'll call you BB from now on, Okay?

I've supported you many many times, and all you do spout shit! You should start being REAL for a change, I know you can do it, because I've seen you do it, once or twice. Stop with the tough girl bit. Lighten up for a change!
I only say what's true. Sometimes you will like it, other times you will hate it. It doesn't matter to me.

ps What's an 'idiot hanging'?
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Re: Trump worst prsident ever

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Walker wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:19 pmBlah, blah, blah
Making a landslide of claims doesn't have anything to do with truth. If you understood this, you would not have supported such an obvious and proven prolific liar. Nor would you have been so dependent on mimicking one-sided distortions of media sources. You have clearly been a willing pawn, intent on believing what you want to, no matter how absurd and unproven, and then avoiding (like Trump) any recognition or admission of what a dishonest fool you have been in the process. That's the legacy you're proud of. :lol:
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:46 am
SpheresOfBalance wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:43 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:30 am

Not my fault you are offended by the truth. Idiot.
Not offended, I could give a fuck about what you spew. Just getting tired of your never ending shit that means absolutely nothing. Oh and I got your idiot hanging. Bitter Bitch! Hey I'll call you BB from now on, Okay?

I've supported you many many times, and all you do spout shit! You should start being REAL for a change, I know you can do it, because I've seen you do it, once or twice. Stop with the tough girl bit. Lighten up for a change!
I only say what's true.
No you don't veggie, you often treat all Americans like they're the same, and it's not even close to being true. Use more words to differentiate between all the various peoples of the world. There are good and bad people everywhere, in all walks of life, all races, all religions, etc. Use your words to give the good ones credit, and save your bitchiness for the screwed up people that really deserve it. Show that you can see both sides of the equation.


Sometimes you will like it, other times you will hate it. It doesn't matter to me.

ps What's an 'idiot hanging'?
It's an old American Slam, that at least dates back to the 70's, "hanging" is a reference to what's hanging between a males legs. It's actually quite the lame comeback, but as with you, it can keep some guessing. ;-)
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Terrapin Station wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:14 pm
Sculptor wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:04 pm Trump is political history.
I definitely agree with that, whether the impeachment trial against him is successful or not.

I don't think he's going to have much interest in getting involved with politics again. He'll probably concentrate on enjoying golf from this point on, especially since he's in his mid 70s already.
Unlikely, he doesn't enjoy presidential immunity or executive privilege any more, meanwhile he has a large number of legal problems pending and a troubled business empire which has lost its main banking partner who fear he has tainted them with new money laundering and corruption problems.

The obvious choice for him is to do what he can to maintain his hold over the Republican base so that he can at least force congressmen who fear primary challengers to run interference against the federal charges.
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Lacewing wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:47 am
Walker wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:19 pmBlah, blah, blah
Making a landslide of claims doesn't have anything to do with truth. If you understood this, you would not have supported such an obvious and proven prolific liar. Nor would you have been so dependent on mimicking one-sided distortions of media sources. You have clearly been a willing pawn, intent on believing what you want to, no matter how absurd and unproven, and then avoiding (like Trump) any recognition or admission of what a dishonest fool you have been in the process. That's the legacy you're proud of. :lol:
Get him lacewing, you got him by his lack of truth, don't let it go.
He has absolutely no idea who Roy Cohn was and how Trump is a clone of the Cohn, or is that clown?
None of his followers do, or they do and that's what they like about him, which would really make them losers.

Yeah I know that you've been pissed at me for some time now. But we do agree on occasion, and I prefer it when we do! But like veggie, never sell your JTB for anything, but of course that goes without saying, right?

Happy New Year LW!
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Sculptor wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:56 pm
Walker wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:22 pm Great Healthcare for Americans
Empowered American patients by greatly expanding healthcare choice, transparency, and affordability.
ROTFLMFHO
Oh Look. A list of lies from the Big Fat Orange Liar.

LINK IS EMPTY.

ERROR 404/ Page not Found
That is the problem with you, i.e. as always hasty and jumping to conclusion without proper supporting evidence.

Didn't you notice this link therein?
Visit Past Administration Archives
https://www.archives.gov/presidential-l ... d-websites
where it is stated.
In January 2021, the following websites were archived as a way to preserve the online presence of the administration of President Donald J. Trump.
Here is the link re Economy and Jobs.
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/is ... nomy-jobs/

If what is stated therein are lies, that would make the USA government [White House] very stupid if what is listed is not linked to facts produced by the US Government.

Actually those who condemned Trump subjectively like Sculptor et. al. are really zombies who had been brainwashed by the very dominant tribalistic media [are others sources of influences] from the left.

This is a philosophy forum, thus the imperative conditions is empirical evidences, justification and objectivity.

While Trump has his negatives and warts, all philosophically inclined and rational people must at least complied to be objective.

To be objective of Trump's Performance Appraisal, it is only proper that we appraise his actual performances
  • against his terms of employment as President and Government Servant of the US Government.

    I believe the list of achievements as listed by Walker is sufficient evidence show that Trump has performed well as expected of his terms of employment.
    Based on what I have read, objectively, Trump performance is much better than many past presidents.
    Obama: Some jobs 'are just not going to come back'
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKpso3vhZtw
    A steel worker union official asked President Barack Obama at a June 1 town hall in Elkhart, Indiana, about job losses at a plant run by Carrier, an air conditioning manufacturer that recently announced plans to move jobs from Indiana to Mexico. He replied that some jobs "are just not going to come back," while others are in flux or rebounding.
    Trump did convince Carrier to keep their plant in Indiana and ensured those 'some' jobs are retained within the USA.

    Trump may have unpleasant behaviors, e.g. boorish, narcissistic, bragging, but that don't count significantly within his terms of employment. What counts are the empirical measurable output in real numbers.

    The only significant negative attributed to Trump's performance is the terrible and bad numbers re Covid19. Trump insisted he did take earlier actions and many things happened beyond his control or due to the need for optimality.
    But as President he has to take responsible for the bad performance for the terrible Covid19 infections and deaths.
    However this negative when weighted do not negate all of his other positive performance in accordance to his terms of employment.

    You are indeed a subjective bastard in judging another in accordance to your personal subjective bastardized standards.

    When will you ever learn to be objective and professional?
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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:52 am
Sculptor wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:56 pm
Walker wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:22 pm Great Healthcare for Americans
Empowered American patients by greatly expanding healthcare choice, transparency, and affordability.
ROTFLMFHO
Oh Look. A list of lies from the Big Fat Orange Liar.

LINK IS EMPTY.

ERROR 404/ Page not Found
That is the problem with you, i.e. as always hasty and jumping to conclusion without proper supporting evidence.

Didn't you notice this link therein?
Visit Past Administration Archives
https://www.archives.gov/presidential-l ... d-websites
where it is stated.
In January 2021, the following websites were archived as a way to preserve the online presence of the administration of President Donald J. Trump.
Here is the link re Economy and Jobs.
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/is ... nomy-jobs/

If what is stated therein are lies, that would make the USA government [White House] very stupid if what is listed is not linked to facts produced by the US Government.

Actually those who condemned Trump subjectively like Sculptor et. al. are really zombies who had been brainwashed by the very dominant tribalistic media [are others sources of influences] from the left.

This is a philosophy forum, thus the imperative conditions is empirical evidences, justification and objectivity.

While Trump has his negatives and warts, all philosophically inclined and rational people must at least complied to be objective.

To be objective of Trump's Performance Appraisal, it is only proper that we appraise his actual performances
  • against his terms of employment as President and Government Servant of the US Government.

    I believe the list of achievements as listed by Walker is sufficient evidence show that Trump has performed well as expected of his terms of employment.
    Based on what I have read, objectively, Trump performance is much better than many past presidents.
    Obama: Some jobs 'are just not going to come back'
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKpso3vhZtw
    A steel worker union official asked President Barack Obama at a June 1 town hall in Elkhart, Indiana, about job losses at a plant run by Carrier, an air conditioning manufacturer that recently announced plans to move jobs from Indiana to Mexico. He replied that some jobs "are just not going to come back," while others are in flux or rebounding.
    Trump did convince Carrier to keep their plant in Indiana and ensured those 'some' jobs are retained within the USA.

    Trump may have unpleasant behaviors, e.g. boorish, narcissistic, bragging, but that don't count significantly within his terms of employment. What counts are the empirical measurable output in real numbers.

    The only significant negative attributed to Trump's performance is the terrible and bad numbers re Covid19. Trump insisted he did take earlier actions and many things happened beyond his control or due to the need for optimality.
    But as President he has to take responsible for the bad performance for the terrible Covid19 infections and deaths.
    However this negative when weighted do not negate all of his other positive performance in accordance to his terms of employment.

    You are indeed a subjective bastard in judging another in accordance to your personal subjective bastardized standards.

    When will you ever learn to be objective and professional?
I'm pretty sure he would have won by a landslide if not for covid. The US has a terrible healthcare system, high levels of homelessness, and an unhealthy and obese population. It had lockdowns, and how much difference did they make? I think it's ridiculous to blame him. England has actually done worse the the US in per capita numbers.
Hardly anyone wore masks here but the virus didn't really take hold (so far). I doubt if mandatory mask wearing would have made any difference at all.
That said, Biden seems like a nice person, although rather lacklustre. Perhaps all the tragedy in his life has given him empathy. But Trump fanatics are vicious, so his chance's of surviving his term might not be the best.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:11 am I'm pretty sure he would have won by a landslide if not for covid. The US has a terrible healthcare system, high levels of homelessness, and an unhealthy and obese population. It had lockdowns, and how much difference did they make? I think it's ridiculous to blame him. England has actually done worse the the US in per capita numbers.
Hardly anyone wore masks here but the virus didn't really take hold (so far). I doubt if mandatory mask wearing would have made any difference at all.
That said, Biden seems like a nice person, although rather lacklustre. Perhaps all the tragedy in his life has given him empathy. But Trump fanatics are vicious, so his chance's of surviving his term might not be the best.
It is very conventional that the top leader has to bear and take responsibility whatever negative consequences in addition to the positive ones. It is up to the followers and others to judge him and make concessions where applicable.
But I personally agree Trump should not take the full blame for the terrible covid numbers given the social and complicated political environment of the USA.

I read [hearsay] Kim of North Korea would issue commands to kill whoever is infected with covid19 to ensure his reputation will not be tainted with any terrible covid19 numbers. The point is the leader must bear responsibility in the eyes of the public and thus has to do his best to ensure positive results via moral means.

As for fanatics, the Principles of the Normal Distribution Applies, i.e. for any large group of people there will always be a small percentile of extremists at both ends of the distribution.

In the four years of Trump administration, other than the Capitol Hill incident, there was not much violence from the extremists of the Conservative side, but note the terror and violence of Antifa and other extremists from the Democrats left throughout the 4 years of Trump in office.
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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:52 am
Sculptor wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:56 pm
Walker wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:22 pm Great Healthcare for Americans
Empowered American patients by greatly expanding healthcare choice, transparency, and affordability.
ROTFLMFHO
Oh Look. A list of lies from the Big Fat Orange Liar.

LINK IS EMPTY.

ERROR 404/ Page not Found
That is the problem with you, i.e. as always hasty and jumping to conclusion without proper supporting evidence.

Didn't you notice this link therein?
Visit Past Administration Archives
https://www.archives.gov/presidential-l ... d-websites
Trump propoganda is NOT evidence.
Have you not heard that he is consdiered a pathological liar?
I'm sure the achives of the last four years are going to be the subject of study by many a psychologist. But no one is going to read them verbatim as facts!!
LOL
You are funny, would you but know it.
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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:30 am
In the four years of Trump administration, other than the Capitol Hill incident, there was not much violence from the extremists of the Conservative side, but note the terror and violence of Antifa and other extremists from the Democrats left throughout the 4 years of Trump in office.

Anyone who thinks that Left Wing Terrorism is the most common, should really be asking themselves "what the fuck sort of poison am I watching on TV" that makes me think that way. What News service is offering me this false impression?

First, right-wing attacks and plots accounted for the majority of all terrorist incidents in the United States since 1994. In particular, they made up a large percentage of incidents in the 1990s and 2010s. Second, the total number of right-wing attacks and plots has grown substantially during the past six years. In 2019, for example, right-wing extremists perpetrated nearly two-thirds of the terrorist attacks and plots in the United States, and they committed over 90 percent of the attacks and plots between January 1 and May 8, 2020. Third, although religious extremists were responsible for the most fatalities because of the 9/11 attacks, right-wing perpetrators were responsible for more than half of all annual fatalities in 14 of the 21 years during which fatal attacks occurred.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalatin ... ted-states

These are the people that KNOW what the fuck is goin on.
So adjust your viewing and news choices if you are surprised by the facts here.
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And take a look at the graph

Right Wing terrorism leaped right up after Trump was elected.
https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalatin ... ted-states
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FFS. There were non stop protests and violence from wokies the whole of Trump's term in office. You are blinded by your delusional hatred for the man.
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Sculptor wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:45 am
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:52 am
Sculptor wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:56 pm
ROTFLMFHO


Oh Look. A list of lies from the Big Fat Orange Liar.

LINK IS EMPTY.

ERROR 404/ Page not Found
That is the problem with you, i.e. as always hasty and jumping to conclusion without proper supporting evidence.

Didn't you notice this link therein?
Visit Past Administration Archives
https://www.archives.gov/presidential-l ... d-websites
Trump propoganda is NOT evidence.
As I had stated the White House would not have kept those listing of Trump's achievements if there is no evidences and elements of truth in it at all.
As such they are not likely to be outright false, but statistics are very subjective and thus open to interpretation depending from one's perspective and contexts in reading the statistics and facts.
Have you not heard that he is consdiered a pathological liar?
I'm sure the achives of the last four years are going to be the subject of study by many a psychologist. But no one is going to read them verbatim as facts!!
LOL
You are funny, would you but know it.
Trump is supported by a group of advisers and experts and thus what he stated must be decided from information from various sources.

I am very well verse in leadership styles.
Trump styles is focusing on the macro rather than the details, i.e. the micro.
Thus Trump will have a great tendency to generalize what information is fed to him.
But there is a great difference from what he said and from the actual decisions he took which must be supported by the executive orders which must be properly scrutinized by the relevant staff.

Point is politics is so tribalistic -so obvious in the USA - that what is truth to one side is a lie [pathological] to the other.
Thus there is a need to be objective when reading whatever is claimed from one side.

It is objective Trump facilitated Middle East peace treaties involving Israel. What is there to lie about the actual numbers. It is the same with his other performance which can be easily quantified.

Whatever psychologists' views about Trump, what counts are the empirical evidences of his actual performance against his Terms of Employment as a government servant of the USA.
Have you ever done or received an Employee Performance Appraisal?
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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:18 am
Sculptor wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:45 am
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:52 am
That is the problem with you, i.e. as always hasty and jumping to conclusion without proper supporting evidence.

Didn't you notice this link therein?
Visit Past Administration Archives
https://www.archives.gov/presidential-l ... d-websites
Trump propoganda is NOT evidence.
As I had stated the White House would not have kept those listing of Trump's achievements if there is no evidences and elements of truth in it at all.
Who do you think wrote all that BS?
Answer the Trump Administration.
You really do not understand how this works.
This is not a sober account by the Civil Service.
What has been listed is a Eulogy by a dictator.

This is an "Archive" written by the ourgoing administration.
It's about as unbiased as Augustus' Res Gestae, and has a similar purpose.
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SpheresOfBalance wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:20 am
Lacewing wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:47 am
Walker wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:19 pmBlah, blah, blah
Making a landslide of claims doesn't have anything to do with truth. If you understood this, you would not have supported such an obvious and proven prolific liar. Nor would you have been so dependent on mimicking one-sided distortions of media sources. You have clearly been a willing pawn, intent on believing what you want to, no matter how absurd and unproven, and then avoiding (like Trump) any recognition or admission of what a dishonest fool you have been in the process. That's the legacy you're proud of. :lol:
Get him lacewing, you got him by his lack of truth, don't let it go.
He has absolutely no idea who Roy Cohn was and how Trump is a clone of the Cohn, or is that clown?
None of his followers do, or they do and that's what they like about him, which would really make them losers.

Yeah I know that you've been pissed at me for some time now. But we do agree on occasion, and I prefer it when we do! But like veggie, never sell your JTB for anything, but of course that goes without saying, right?

Happy New Year LW!
A couple of interesting facts about Cohn.
One is that, despite a life-long hatred and persecution of homosexuality, Cohn himself did of AIDS, which he vociferously denied claimin he had liver cancer.

When he died the IRS seized his entire estate for tax evasion. One thing they rejected was a gift given him by Donald Trump - a pair of diamond studded cufflinks. The Appraisal of them found they were FAKE.

Trump is now famous for handing out fake cufflinks.
It's wonder why no one was brave enough to call him out on this.
A faker to the end.
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