American election.

[Walker]

I am a pacifist ...

I don't think that word means what you think it means, despite the weaselly qualifiers.

I know what it means.
Trump deserves to die; that is my exception.

To say everyone does not would be delusional.

It would be like saying, rain doesn't deserve to fall.

[Walker]

Lacewing, I think we’re all fortunate that your world is in you.

What a weird thing to say.

Do you imagine that you, yourself, speak of great truths and a reality that all should see and agree on? You continually demonstrate how skewed and blind you are, so how valuable or truthful can that be?

The numbers tell the tale.

You must be one of them science deniers.

[Lacewing]

The numbers tell the tale.

Which numbers? The ones that say Trump is a big loser? Or the ones that are manipulated and distorted to create enraged stories? Or...???

Why is the system believable and true and not worth investigation when you like the results, but corrupt and false and worth investigation when you don't like the results?

Lotsa numbers out there.

[Walker]

The numbers tell the tale.

Which numbers? The ones that say Trump is a big loser? Or the ones that are manipulated and distorted to create enraged stories? Or...???

Why is the system believable and true and not worth investigation when you like the results, but corrupt and false and worth investigation when you don't like the results?

Lotsa numbers out there.

The forensic analyses of the 2020 election results. Links and discussions are all over this very website. Pay attention.

[Lacewing]

The forensic analyses of the 2020 election results. Links and discussions are all over this very website. Pay attention.

According to people who have very little credibility and continually demonstrate skewed and blind viewpoints. No thanks.

[Walker]

The forensic analyses of the 2020 election results. Links and discussions are all over this very website. Pay attention.

According to people who have very little credibility and continually demonstrate skewed and blind viewpoints. No thanks.

According to scientists.

You must be one of them flat-earthers.

[Lacewing]

The forensic analyses of the 2020 election results. Links and discussions are all over this very website. Pay attention.

According to people who have very little credibility and continually demonstrate skewed and blind viewpoints. No thanks.

According to scientists.

Which scientists? You realize there are more people involved than the ones you're focusing on, right? If you want to believe it, it's not necessarily the truth. If you don't want to believe it, it's not necessarily a lie. Widen your view and use better logic.

[attofishpi]

According to people who have very little credibility and continually demonstrate skewed and blind viewpoints. No thanks.

According to scientists.

Which scientists? You realize there are more people involved than the ones you're focusing on, right? If you want to believe it, it's not necessarily the truth. If you don't want to believe it, it's not necessarily a lie. Widen your view and use better logic.

Yes, it truly is a strange point in time when Republicans start listening to scientists.

[FlashDangerpants]

The forensic analyses of the 2020 election results. Links and discussions are all over this very website. Pay attention.

According to people who have very little credibility and continually demonstrate skewed and blind viewpoints. No thanks.

The guy ran a monte carlo simulation to discover that there was an enormously low chance that the distribution between postal votes and in person votes was random. Thus demonstrating electoral fraud because there can be no other reason why democrat voters were less likely than Trump fans to want to mingle with the unmasked hordes on voting day.

Utterly genius stuff, it's hard to imagine why it wasn't possible to find a qualified statistician to present that case in front of any court in the land.

[Immanuel Can]

It's a bit late to start pretending that your diatribes against Joe Biden are born of concern for his well being.

Heh. I was not speaking of me. I was speaking of his wife and family, and of the Democratic colleagues he has, who doubtless would say they have his best interests in view. If they have any actual concern for the man himself, they ought to get him tested, instead of trying to prop him up and make use of him.

None of them were of anything that I haven't done myself.

Once, twice, maybe. But if you were doing them continuously and egregiously, the way JB does, I hope your loved ones would usher you off for testing too.

I'll give you just one site. I already expect you'll have some reason why you don't have to pay attention to it, as you would with however many others I supplied you with. Trying to convince the unconvinceable is like trying to drill a hole in water. But here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA-GoeFGyIc

you and I deserve different versions of reality.

"Deserve"? No. But "have"? Possibly so.

If true, I think there's not much more to be said. Debate depends on a common reference point in objective reality. If that's given up, there's no hope of reconciliation of points of view.

[Walker]

Which scientists? You realize there are more people involved than the ones you're focusing on, right? If you want to believe it, it's not necessarily the truth. If you don't want to believe it, it's not necessarily a lie. Widen your view and use better logic.

The scientists who have analyzed the recent past.

Certainly not the climate, so-called "scientists," the agenda-driven Pied Pipers who the Leftists would follow right off a cliff.

You suffer from being a relativist which has caused you to think that theories concerning the distant, unknown future is science, and is in the same ballpark as the* real science of accurately inferring the recent past with forensic analysis and mathematics.

It takes more than Leftists stealing a word to change divination into science, don't you know.

It's a damn shame that folks allow themselves to be so ignorantacized.


* I think that at least one coach would agree that "a" is a more appropriate word in this situation, than "the."

[Walker]

Yes, it truly is a strange point in time when Republicans start listening to scientists.

The fact that you equate science to politics illustrates just how successful the propagandists have been in twisting the comprehension of so many eager young minds.

Associating dishonesty and theft with the Left is simply the effect of impartial observation.

You have our sympathy.

[tillingborn]

It's a bit late to start pretending that your diatribes against Joe Biden are born of concern for his well being.

Heh. I was not speaking of me. I was speaking of his wife and family, and of the Democratic colleagues he has, who doubtless would say they have his best interests in view. If they have any actual concern for the man himself, they ought to get him tested, instead of trying to prop him up and make use of him.

None of them were of anything that I haven't done myself.

Once, twice, maybe. But if you were doing them continuously and egregiously, the way JB does, I hope your loved ones would usher you off for testing too.

I'll give you just one site. I already expect you'll have some reason why you don't have to pay attention to it, as you would with however many others I supplied you with. Trying to convince the unconvinceable is like trying to drill a hole in water. But here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA-GoeFGyIc

you and I deserve different versions of reality.

"Deserve"? No. But "have"? Possibly so.

If true, I think there's not much more to be said. Debate depends on a common reference point in objective reality. If that's given up, there's no hope of reconciliation of points of view.

I gather you have never taken part in a debate; the whole point is to persuade the audience of one or other point of view. This fundamentally is what happens in the media. What you call the MSM is just that; it is the bulge in the Bell Curve where the opinions held and expressed are mainstream - a little bit left, or a little bit right, but in most cases sane. There certainly is lunatic leftist media, but few people are paying them much attention because there are people, such as yourself, for whom even Adolf Hitler was a leftist because he was a National Socialist. From that far out fringe, even the mainstream but heavily right leaning Fox News is no longer trustworthy. That they and Newsmax had to retract their accusations of voter fraud involving Smartmatic is a "common reference point in objective reality". I assume you are attached enough to the real world to accept that. It can be interpreted either as an acknowledgement that the allegations were false, and would result in a costly legal defeat, or that the creeping tide of leftism had breached the walls of the formerly steadfast conservative organs - that would be the subject of debate.
As for Joe Biden, I don't deny there is evidence of creeping senility, but I don't assume that is the cause because I am not qualified to do so. Unlike you, I am prepared to think that Joe Biden's wife, family and Democratic colleagues, none of whom I have met, might have the typical level of concern that normal human beings have for people close to them and either have had Joe Biden tested, or would if their far more intimate knowledge persuaded them it was wise to do so.
Your thinking on this is all over the place. Here for instance is a sign of creeping senility:

It’s interesting that now, any criticisms of Joe Biden will hasten both his departure and the installation of Kamala Harris.

The source for this information?

Logic.

Links on how to think? Not necessary.

Yes, I suspect the same. We'll now get all the information about the laptop, Biden's corruption, his obvious senility and incapacity for any office, and Kamala -- whom even the Dems despised a few months ago, and rejected early from the running for candidate -- will be ushered into place. But she's so obviously corrupt herself that the puppet masters of the party will make of her whatever they want.

She may not have been their first choice, by a long stretch; but she's now their most convenient tool.

It's cynical on the part of the Dems. But it smacks of their modus operandi, alright. I do expect Biden to be removed in a few months, if he is installed. He's not functional.

You and Walker have cobbled together a conspiracy which you both agree requires no evidence, because the source of information is logic. Think about this: you believe there is a leftist conspiracy to instal a senile President. You are the one saying he is senile.

[Walker]

You and Walker have cobbled together a conspiracy which you both agree requires no evidence, because the source of information is logic. Think about this: you believe there is a leftist conspiracy to instal a senile President. You are the one saying he is senile.

You don't know what you're talking about.

[Walker]

Read all about it.

Stacey Abrams' Federal Judge Sister Blocks Purge of Inaccurate Voter Rolls in Georgia
https://neonnettle.com/news/13714-stace ... in-georgia

“Judge Abrams Gardner blocked election boards in Ben Hill County and Muscogee County, which includes Columbus, from requiring large numbers of voters to prove their residency before casting ballots in the runoffs.”

Commentary: Proving residency makes it more difficult for Leftists to cheat an election, but there are many other ways to cheat an election, which is an unethical act, as demonstrated in the 2020 presidential election.