Putting ''Immanuel Can'' In The Religious Spotlight.

[Dontaskme]

Do you want to try again I.C ? shall we continue?

I'll wait for your reply, I respect your wishes.

I'm very hungry to know how others see the God they believe to exist..ok

That's a good way to proceed.

I'll persist so long as the discussion remains mutually respectful and rational. I have never been able to see the point in a combative discussion focused on a petty "win" in front of some supposed "audience." But an honest conversation is a good thing.

Ok thanks IC...I'm sorry if that's how I come across to you. I do not intend to be so combative, I don't even think I've been that bad have I ... I could have been a lot worse, let me tell you.

The audience need to see them selves in all their true colours, it's not a bad thing to be fair, me thinks.

Anyhow, I'll be back tomorrow ok...got to go ...bye bye for now mannie.

[henry quirk]

I'm very hungry to know how others see the God they believe to exist

really?

you only seem interested in mannie's

Well, I guess I am "in the spotlight."

But I'm happy to share it. Center stage is yours, too.

no, you keep it

deism isn't sxxxy enough to criticize

[Immanuel Can]

Anyhow, I'll be back tomorrow ok...got to go...

Talk to you then.

[Dontaskme]

Anyhow, I'll be back tomorrow ok...got to go...

Talk to you then.

Before I go...I just want to show you this...I think you will appreciate.



I wish it could be true mannie, i can only wish for a man like jesus to be real.

See you tomorrow.

[Walker]

I don’t know, I don’t think it’s possible for anyone to really be so … so much like that for real, so it must be an attempt at some kind of new-age Plato role-playing. At least, there’s hope for that, but there must be more to the presentation than indignation and personal belief, that is, to be fair. Wave goodbye, fair.

[Walker]

If you were anywhere near me right now, I would literally slam you right between the eyes with my big dick.

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"Lucy, you got some 'splainin' to do."

[Dontaskme]

If you were anywhere near me right now, I would literally slam you right between the eyes with my big dick.

?

"Lucy, you got some 'splainin' to do."

Small willy?... no problem.

[Dontaskme]

Anyhow, I'll be back tomorrow ok...got to go...

Talk to you then.

Hello Immanuel.

I've had another look at this link https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don ... rt_129.cfm


It says... ''The Old Testament speaks explicitly about a future resurrection for all who have died.''

And that...
''Death Not The End

Though our body dies, the spirit or soul never dies. The body ceases to function, but not the inner person, or spirit. Hence physical death does not end life, it is only one step in the ongoing and eternal process of conscious life.''


''Although Job knew his body would be destroyed, he also had the promise that God would raise it again someday. Job had the belief in a personal resurrection.''

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I.C. So all I have to do is to believe in Jesus as our Lord saviour - and he will raise me from the dead when my body dies. ?

1. There will be a resurrection of the dead.

2. This resurrection will be universal - everyone will be raised.

3. There is a resurrection unto life and a resurrection unto death, or separation from God. Those who are raised will never die again.

4. The resurrection will be a prelude to the final judgment of both the righteous and the wicked.

So does this mean that only good people are raised from the dead? Does this mean that God wants only good people to live, not bad people?


Is this what the resurrection means I.C. ? I'm genuinely interested in learning from you. Are you willing to answer some questions that I have? ... I have only questions of course...no answers really.


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[Immanuel Can]

So does this mean that only good people are raised from the dead?

John, in the Book of Revelation, which is the prophetic book at the end of the NT, records this:

"Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done." (Rev. 20:111-13)

Not only "good" people, then -- although, what it means to be "good" needs some explanation. But all "the dead, great and small." There will be no injustice, no evil, no hidden thing that will not be made known and dealt with at that time, it would seem.

And that's only what's called for. After all, isn't our world today screaming for "social justice"? Isn't everyone wanting things to be finally made "equitable" and "fair"? Isn't everyone crying out for the environment to be saved? Aren't people saying, "How could a good God allow evil to happen?" They're saying such things on this very board, as a matter of fact...and indicting God for not having dealt with these things yet, and saying, "How could He exist, if such things are allowed to happen?"

So, according to John, they get what they're asking for: perfect justice, with no unfairness, an end to evil and an absolutely reckoning of accounts so that all becomes equitable, by the only Agency capable of having all the details right and of missing nothing. You would think they would be relieved to know that's coming.

I suspect, though, that not all will be happy with what they get.

[Walker]

I suspect, though, that not all will be happy with what they get.

True enough. One could end up patronizing blasphemy.

[Dontaskme]

So does this mean that only good people are raised from the dead?

John, in the Book of Revelation, which is the prophetic book at the end of the NT, records this:

"Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done." (Rev. 20:111-13)

Not only "good" people, then -- although, what it means to be "good" needs some explanation. But all "the dead, great and small." There will be no injustice, no evil, no hidden thing that will not be made known and dealt with at that time, it would seem.

And that's only what's called for. After all, isn't our world today screaming for "social justice"? Isn't everyone wanting things to be finally made "equitable" and "fair"? Isn't everyone crying out for the environment to be saved? Aren't people saying, "How could a good God allow evil to happen?" They're saying such things on this very board, as a matter of fact...and indicting God for not having dealt with these things yet, and saying, "How could He exist, if such things are allowed to happen?"

So, according to John, they get what they're asking for: perfect justice, with no unfairness, an end to evil and an absolutely reckoning of accounts so that all becomes equitable, by the only Agency capable of having all the details right and of missing nothing. You would think they would be relieved to know that's coming.

I suspect, though, that not all will be happy with what they get.

Thank you Immanuel.

I really like what you've written today in reply to my question, it makes perfect sense to me. It was very beautiful. Good job! I agree.

Today, I've been reading through some of the other stuff you have written on this thread as well. It's all starting to make sense to me, so thanks, I am understanding what you are saying to me. I know you also said you cannot understand this for me, and that I had to do that for myself.
Well just to let you know, the understanding is perculating through to me in a clear way. Even the part when you said all this will be gone one day in the big heat death...thank you so much I.C .. I'm beginning to like this thread .

I'll be back tomorrow, bye for now.

Ps, something you wrote today in your reply sparked a knowing in me that I've always known for myself, and what you wrote, is how I see it too, and I've always known you too see it the way I do.

I used to believe what you do, in God...then I stopped believing, but now I think I'm believing again. Strangely, it seems you've sparked some recognition in me that I had recently turned my back on.

It's like a force keeps yanking me back into the non-belief world of ego.

PPs, I really like you mannie. Thank you for coming here today.

[Immanuel Can]

Thank you Immanuel.

Oh, I am not Immanuel -- I would never say so much of myself. And you'll see why, when you know what "Immanuel" means.

I'm only here to say that I cannot possibly give all the answers a person might want or need; but "Immanuel Can."

[Dontaskme]

Thank you Immanuel.

Oh, I am not Immanuel -- I would never say so much of myself. And you'll see why, when you know what "Immanuel" means.

I'm only here to say that I cannot possibly give all the answers a person might want or need; but "Immanuel Can."

I really understand that. now that I'm listening with my real ears, and looking with my real eyes.

Back tomorrow.

[Dontaskme]

Thank you Immanuel.

Oh, I am not Immanuel -- I would never say so much of myself. And you'll see why, when you know what "Immanuel" means.

I'm only here to say that I cannot possibly give all the answers a person might want or need; but "Immanuel Can."

Oh my god.

This morning I googled what does ''Immanuel'' mean. When I saw the answer, I just remembered knowing this once before, but I had forgotten about it, so thank god for the memory.

Holy crap, all this time you've been playing the role of Jesus. I'm stunned, that's why I really did like you and is why I knew you as a gentleman.

Jesus really does exist, wow, I had a nice warm feeling in my heart when I saw what the name Immanuel meant this morning.

It's made my day that little bit brighter, not that's it's ever dull...but it was a lovely shock to see again what I'd forgotten about...have a nice day Jesus. and thank you for the little bit of joy you have sparked alive today.



Dear Immanuel, I'm happy you are still here with us. I love you so much.

Is it alright if I ask you some questions I.C. ? let me know, if you don't want questions posed to you, I get it ok. No problem.

[Dontaskme]

Thank you Immanuel.

Oh, I am not Immanuel -- I would never say so much of myself. And you'll see why, when you know what "Immanuel" means.

I'm only here to say that I cannot possibly give all the answers a person might want or need; but "Immanuel Can."

Dear mannie.

I've just realised, I have no more questions to ask. I have only to ask Jesus.

Thank you for restoring my faith. It had gone a bit wobbly for a long while, kind of like I had become trapped in purgatory for a spell, but something you said to me made me break free from purgatory. My faith stands strong, and not forgotten. Never forgotten.