To be sure, something exists and that something is what we often call "the universe".
What is your reasoning that what exists did not create itself,[/quote]
That's very straightforward and empirical, actually. Time is linear, and entropy is a "clock" on how long it has been running, and how long it will last. There must, therefore, have been some initial event that was the ultimate cause of the universe, and which itself has no cause. Otherwise, you get the infinite regress of causes problem, and that's impossible.
You're not wrong. In fact, belief in God is what led Francis Bacon, the inventor of the Scientific Method, to postulate that reality must work according to law-like regularities. He supposed that a rational God would create a rationally-ordered universe. He tested that hypothesis, and found out it was right.Saint Paul said as quoted by I CThis what we now call laws of nature/ science.His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, being understood by what has been made,
But try the same trick with randomness. Try to get random variables to produce laws and order. Call me back when you've achieved it.
Then let me say it, just as Jesus Christ said it: "He who has ears to hear, let him hear." (Mark 4:8)Immanuel in the post quoted has made it fairly plain what "God has said". I'd endorse that reasoning.
What Immanuel Can has not said is why he presumes that God has made it plain to us what we should do about existence itself .
Agreed, of course.The wise scientist or agnostic will not be too haughty to express his fears and pleas in a hymn addressed to God of Bethel.
All moral codes have been known in history. That is not to say they were all produced by human history. One could say, "All laws of science are historical," in exactly the same sense of "historical." It doesn't imply that they aren't also features of the objective world, as I'm sure you recognize....all moral codes are historical.
I figured you'd say something like that.
