Thoughts as Both Physical and Non Physical

[Eodnhoj7]

Thoughts are material in the respect what represents them is physical.

This physical representation of the thought is in itself as thought given it is assumed and imprinted upon the mind.

The change of thought reflects the change of the material world where thoughts change as matter changes.

This does not limit the thought to being merely physical yet does not deny it being physical in and of itself.

The physical aspect of thought reflects itself under the manifestation of perfect forms which manifest under a gradation in the physical world.

For example the idea of a perfect square manifests itself under the gradation of the square as a building. What is perfect is thus reflected under the physical as grades.

This gradation necessitates one thought, as manifested through the physical and assumed as a thought, as an approximation of another thought.

One singular form is approximated through many where the thought of anything perfect is reflected under a multiplicity of forms.

This multiplicity of forms necessitates the perfect thought as expressed under a series of changes as the progression of one form into another.

The perfect thought, such as a perfect square, exists as the potential form expressed through a series of changes, such as the imperfect square represented through a building.

Perfection and imperfection thus represent a dualism in thought where one is a potential state and an actual state.

The imperfect reflects itself under the actualization of a potential thought under a form of change where what is physical, as a thought, is directed towards the potential, as another thought. In these respects the thought is both physical, as changing actuality, and non-physical, as unchanging potentiality.

[Veritas Aequitas]

"The perfect thought, such as a perfect square, .."
What??
The above is an impossibility.

What we can have is a thought about perfection.
That is anyone can think of "perfection" e.g. the absolute perfect square, perfect god, etc.
There is no way a thought can be perfect, since thoughts are only possible via imperfect humans.
What is possible is a relative-thought, absolute 'perfection' is an impossibility to be real in the empirical world.

[Eodnhoj7]

"The perfect thought, such as a perfect square, .."
What??
The above is an impossibility.

What we can have is a thought about perfection.
That is anyone can think of "perfection" e.g. the absolute perfect square, perfect god, etc.
There is no way a thought can be perfect, since thoughts are only possible via imperfect humans.
What is possible is a relative-thought, absolute 'perfection' is an impossibility to be real in the empirical world.

A perfect thought is the summation of all thoughts under a singular point. For example the perfect square is a summation of all possible squares thus representing a unity of grades with these grades each representing a singular part of the whole. Another example is the color red where multiple grades of red are United under the singular color red. Perfection is the potential unity of all actual grades, or rather parts, of a phenomenon.

[Walker]

This does not limit the thought to being merely physical yet does not deny it being physical in and of itself.

In that sentence, does “it” mean “the thought?” As in:

This does not limit the thought to being merely physical yet does not deny the thought being physical in and of itself.

[Veritas Aequitas]

"The perfect thought, such as a perfect square, .."
What??
The above is an impossibility.

What we can have is a thought about perfection.
That is anyone can think of "perfection" e.g. the absolute perfect square, perfect god, etc.
There is no way a thought can be perfect, since thoughts are only possible via imperfect humans.
What is possible is a relative-thought, absolute 'perfection' is an impossibility to be real in the empirical world.

A perfect thought is the summation of all thoughts under a singular point. For example the perfect square is a summation of all possible squares thus representing a unity of grades with these grades each representing a singular part of the whole. Another example is the color red where multiple grades of red are United under the singular color red. Perfection is the potential unity of all actual grades, or rather parts, of a phenomenon.

There is no such thing as absolute unconditional perfection.

What you described is relative perfection.
If a student answered correctly all the questions in an objective test, that would be a perfect score of 100%.
In diving competition a diver can score 10/10 which is 'perfect'.
But all the above are relative perfection.

A perfect square is defined a geometric object where all the four lines are equal and meet each other at a 90 degree angle.
Such a perfect square can only be defined within the Geometry FSK but can never exist within empirical reality as real.

[Eodnhoj7]

"The perfect thought, such as a perfect square, .."
What??
The above is an impossibility.

What we can have is a thought about perfection.
That is anyone can think of "perfection" e.g. the absolute perfect square, perfect god, etc.
There is no way a thought can be perfect, since thoughts are only possible via imperfect humans.
What is possible is a relative-thought, absolute 'perfection' is an impossibility to be real in the empirical world.

A perfect thought is the summation of all thoughts under a singular point. For example the perfect square is a summation of all possible squares thus representing a unity of grades with these grades each representing a singular part of the whole. Another example is the color red where multiple grades of red are United under the singular color red. Perfection is the potential unity of all actual grades, or rather parts, of a phenomenon.

There is no such thing as absolute unconditional perfection.

What you described is relative perfection.
If a student answered correctly all the questions in an objective test, that would be a perfect score of 100%.
In diving competition a diver can score 10/10 which is 'perfect'.
But all the above are relative perfection.

A perfect square is defined a geometric object where all the four lines are equal and meet each other at a 90 degree angle.
Such a perfect square can only be defined within the Geometry FSK but can never exist within empirical reality as real.

1. All being in contrast to nothing is perfect through existence alone where perfection is derived from existence.

2. The perfect square is the average of all squares thus is a summation of squares.

3. Relative perfection still requires the phenomenon of perfection to exist as a thing in itself considering relative perfection is a phenomenon of perfection which is not relative to anything but itself thus requiring perfection to exist.

4. The empirical is a reflection of the abstract considering the empirical reflects grades of the abstract, it is the abstract under a mode of change where the summation of changes, necessary for the empirical, results in abstraction. The physical results in the abstract considering the thought which is abstract is a result of particles forming together to produce a thought.

[Eodnhoj7]

This does not limit the thought to being merely physical yet does not deny it being physical in and of itself.

In that sentence, does “it” mean “the thought?” As in:

This does not limit the thought to being merely physical yet does not deny the thought being physical in and of itself.

Yes.

[jayjacobus]

"If you had visited Coral Castle in the 1940’s you would have been greeted enthusiastically by a man weighing a mere 100 pounds and standing just over 5 feet tall. He would have asked you for ten cents admission and introduced you to his fantasy world.

As you moved around his sculpture garden in stone, and the significance of each piece was explained, you would have been witness to the great pride Ed Leedskalnin took in his work.

Since it is documented that no one ever witnessed Ed’s labor in building his beloved Coral Castle, some have said he had supernatural powers. Ed would only say that he knew the secrets used to build the ancient pyramids and if he could learn them, you could too."

Does the non-physical transcend the physical but we can't figure it out?

[Veritas Aequitas]

A perfect thought is the summation of all thoughts under a singular point. For example the perfect square is a summation of all possible squares thus representing a unity of grades with these grades each representing a singular part of the whole. Another example is the color red where multiple grades of red are United under the singular color red. Perfection is the potential unity of all actual grades, or rather parts, of a phenomenon.

There is no such thing as absolute unconditional perfection.

What you described is relative perfection.
If a student answered correctly all the questions in an objective test, that would be a perfect score of 100%.
In diving competition a diver can score 10/10 which is 'perfect'.
But all the above are relative perfection.

A perfect square is defined a geometric object where all the four lines are equal and meet each other at a 90 degree angle.
Such a perfect square can only be defined within the Geometry FSK but can never exist within empirical reality as real.

1. All being in contrast to nothing is perfect through existence alone where perfection is derived from existence.

If perfection is derived from existence [things] then it is relative where anything goes.

2. The perfect square is the average of all squares thus is a summation of squares.

Again this is relative.
How are you able to find all squares that exist?
If I were to draw 10 billion squares where the four angles are not perfectly 90 degrees, then the average of these square will not be absolutely 90 degrees, thus the average cannot be a perfectly perfect square.
What you are trying to get to is the universal square as Plato postulated, but such universals do not exist real.

3. Relative perfection still requires the phenomenon of perfection to exist as a thing in itself considering relative perfection is a phenomenon of perfection which is not relative to anything but itself thus requiring perfection to exist.

Nope!
Yes, relative perfect is always related to the standard of ideal perfection.
But the ideal perfect square is merely a thought and idea that is not real and do not exists in reality.

4. The empirical is a reflection of the abstract considering the empirical reflects grades of the abstract, it is the abstract under a mode of change where the summation of changes, necessary for the empirical, results in abstraction. The physical results in the abstract considering the thought which is abstract is a result of particles forming together to produce a thought.

My point is, what is real is merely the empirical.
What is empirical is an emergence conditioned upon human factors and others.

There are no real things as things-in-themselves that exist unconditionally and absolutely.

[Eodnhoj7]

There is no such thing as absolute unconditional perfection.

What you described is relative perfection.
If a student answered correctly all the questions in an objective test, that would be a perfect score of 100%.
In diving competition a diver can score 10/10 which is 'perfect'.
But all the above are relative perfection.

A perfect square is defined a geometric object where all the four lines are equal and meet each other at a 90 degree angle.
Such a perfect square can only be defined within the Geometry FSK but can never exist within empirical reality as real.

1. All being in contrast to nothing is perfect through existence alone where perfection is derived from existence.

If perfection is derived from existence [things] then it is relative where anything goes.

2. The perfect square is the average of all squares thus is a summation of squares.

Again this is relative.
How are you able to find all squares that exist?
If I were to draw 10 billion squares where the four angles are not perfectly 90 degrees, then the average of these square will not be absolutely 90 degrees, thus the average cannot be a perfectly perfect square.
What you are trying to get to is the universal square as Plato postulated, but such universals do not exist real.

3. Relative perfection still requires the phenomenon of perfection to exist as a thing in itself considering relative perfection is a phenomenon of perfection which is not relative to anything but itself thus requiring perfection to exist.

Nope!
Yes, relative perfect is always related to the standard of ideal perfection.
But the ideal perfect square is merely a thought and idea that is not real and do not exists in reality.

4. The empirical is a reflection of the abstract considering the empirical reflects grades of the abstract, it is the abstract under a mode of change where the summation of changes, necessary for the empirical, results in abstraction. The physical results in the abstract considering the thought which is abstract is a result of particles forming together to produce a thought.

My point is, what is real is merely the empirical.
What is empirical is an emergence conditioned upon human factors and others.

There are no real things as things-in-themselves that exist unconditionally and absolutely.

Part of that emergence is the abstractions which come from it.

[Veritas Aequitas]

...
My point is, what is real is merely the empirical.
What is empirical is an emergence conditioned upon human factors and others.

There are no real things as things-in-themselves that exist unconditionally and absolutely.

Part of that emergence is the abstractions which come from it.

Yes.
So there is no perfect thought that is absolutely perfect but that thought is an emergence.
An idea or concept is a thought that include abstractions.

[Eodnhoj7]

...
My point is, what is real is merely the empirical.
What is empirical is an emergence conditioned upon human factors and others.

There are no real things as things-in-themselves that exist unconditionally and absolutely.

Part of that emergence is the abstractions which come from it.

Yes.
So there is no perfect thought that is absolutely perfect but that thought is an emergence.
An idea or concept is a thought that include abstractions.

The abstraction of a perfect square comes from the emergence of being from void or other possible being. The square as perfect exists as a summation of all possible squares.

Perfection is a summation of qualities that lack nothing, as such the simple point from which all being is both composed of and composes exists as a perfect phenomenon considering all being is both composed of and composes points.

The point as an abstraction, and an empirical phenomenon, necessitates perfection as coming from an emergence given all points emerge from and contract to a point thus necessitating a self reflective quality where the point exists through a universal looping process. This looping process necessitates perfection given the loop is perfect as it is a self contained whole.

[Eodnhoj7]

There is no such thing as absolute unconditional perfection.

What you described is relative perfection.
If a student answered correctly all the questions in an objective test, that would be a perfect score of 100%.
In diving competition a diver can score 10/10 which is 'perfect'.
But all the above are relative perfection.

A perfect square is defined a geometric object where all the four lines are equal and meet each other at a 90 degree angle.
Such a perfect square can only be defined within the Geometry FSK but can never exist within empirical reality as real.

1. All being in contrast to nothing is perfect through existence alone where perfection is derived from existence.

If perfection is derived from existence [things] then it is relative where anything goes.

Existence relative to itself is a self referential loop which contains within itself a totality of being thus lacking void therefore is whole.

2. The perfect square is the average of all squares thus is a summation of squares.

Again this is relative.
How are you able to find all squares that exist?
If I were to draw 10 billion squares where the four angles are not perfectly 90 degrees, then the average of these square will not be absolutely 90 degrees, thus the average cannot be a perfectly perfect square.
What you are trying to get to is the universal square as Plato postulated, but such universals do not exist real.

A square of non 90 degree angles would have a square of opposite form thus necessitating an average of 90 degrees. For example if one side of the square is under 90 degrees and the other side is over 90 degrees the average between the two squares is 90 degrees.

3. Relative perfection still requires the phenomenon of perfection to exist as a thing in itself considering relative perfection is a phenomenon of perfection which is not relative to anything but itself thus requiring perfection to exist.

Nope!
Yes, relative perfect is always related to the standard of ideal perfection.
But the ideal perfect square is merely a thought and idea that is not real and do not exists in reality.
Thoughts exist as an emergent part of reality.

4. The empirical is a reflection of the abstract considering the empirical reflects grades of the abstract, it is the abstract under a mode of change where the summation of changes, necessary for the empirical, results in abstraction. The physical results in the abstract considering the thought which is abstract is a result of particles forming together to produce a thought.

My point is, what is real is merely the empirical.
What is empirical is an emergence conditioned upon human factors and others.

Empiricism is a summation of the senses under an abstraction which is the phenomenon of interpretation itself. Interpretation is an abstraction and also an emergent phenomenon.

There are no real things as things-in-themselves that exist unconditionally and absolutely.

A point.

[commonsense]

Can you place a thought on a table and measure it’s height, it’s width, it’s circumference or it’s length? Can you place a thought on a scale and weigh it?

Can you hold a mirror to a thought and see its image? Does a thought have a scent? Does a thought make a sound? Can you taste a thought?

If you can actually say yes to any of these questions, then you do indeed live in a universe where thoughts can be physical.

[Impenitent]

thought

did you see a series of meaningless lines and curves?

I thought so too...

-Imp