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Nick_A wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:58 pm Well put and very true. Previously the dems wanted to build on freedom for all made possible by the Constitution. Now the idea is to change America by offering entitlements much like a drug pusher offers drugs.
It's much bigger than that. The Soros's and Klaus Schwab's of this world are now viewing this COVID crisis as what they call "an opportunity," or "a golden opportunity," (their terms) rather, to convince the world's population that things are so bad that they should sit still for what they're calling "The Great Reset."

It sounds like a tinfoil-hat conspiracy theory until you hear them saying it, and then you realize that they, at least, think it's real. Prime Minister Trudeau of Canada has come out publicly on this, and the entire Davos conference in Switzerland has web pages laying out the plan. Biden-Harris have also come out in favour of it, and Trump gave a speech at the last conference. All the heavy-hitters have bought in, it seems. Check it out.

Anyway, the point is that they think they are going to use this crisis to make us all so miserable we'll give them what they want. And what they want, since they're a bunch of millionaires and billionaires, is not to give us poor folks more money, but rather to increase their own power and influence, while shuffling our money Socialistically lower down. It's the classic bait-and-switch, powered by lofty idealistic claims about eliminating racism, saving the environment, and a "Fourth Industrial Revolution" (their term).

If they win, you can be guaranteed we loose. And the first thing they have to do is prolong and intensify the COVID crisis worldwide, so we become desperate and willing to play. Watch for it.

But if you doubt me, here it is: https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/
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Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:11 pm
Nick_A wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:58 pm Well put and very true. Previously the dems wanted to build on freedom for all made possible by the Constitution. Now the idea is to change America by offering entitlements much like a drug pusher offers drugs.
It's much bigger than that. The Soros's and Klaus Schwab's of this world are now viewing this COVID crisis as what they call "an opportunity," or "a golden opportunity," (their terms) rather, to convince the world's population that things are so bad that they should sit still for what they're calling "The Great Reset."

It sounds like a tinfoil-hat conspiracy theory until you hear them saying it, and then you realize that they, at least, think it's real. Prime Minister Trudeau of Canada has come out publicly on this, and the entire Davos conference in Switzerland has web pages laying out the plan. Biden-Harris have also come out in favour of it, and Trump gave a speech at the last conference. All the heavy-hitters have bought in, it seems. Check it out.

Anyway, the point is that they think they are going to use this crisis to make us all so miserable we'll give them what they want. And what they want, since they're a bunch of millionaires and billionaires, is not to give us poor folks more money, but rather to increase their own power and influence, while shuffling our money Socialistically lower down. It's the classic bait-and-switch, powered by lofty idealistic claims about eliminating racism, saving the environment, and a "Fourth Industrial Revolution" (their term).

If they win, you can be guaranteed we loose. And the first thing they have to do is prolong and intensify the COVID crisis worldwide, so we become desperate and willing to play. Watch for it.

But if you doubt me, here it is: https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/
The Great Reset probably deserves thread of its own: Why do we work. Will America fall for it? It could go either way. Trump is one of the few who can allow people to remember what they may be losing
The Great Reset demands we redefine the why of work. It can happen if organizations focus on carrying out "Good DEEDS" in all their activities—operating at all times with a resolute sense of purpose—focusing on the necessity to serve all stakeholders and not solely those seeking financial returns.
The coming socialist utopia. Who can argue against peace and love?
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Nick_A wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:07 pm The coming socialist utopia. Who can argue against peace and love?
Yeah, but they're not secretive about what they have to do to us first: they have to make the most of this "unique, golden opportunity" (their words) they call COVID. They're going to have to hurt us a lot, so that we will be so desperate and scared that we'll go for anything. So look for things to get -- or rather, expect to be told that they're going to get -- much, much worse.

Cities aflame with race riots were not enough. Allegations of impending environmental armageddon have not been enough. Economic shutdowns have not been enough. Fears of immanent, fatal disease have not been quite enough, but have worked much better. Put them all together, and roll in tight control of the media, education and other information, so people have no other perspective, and maybe you get there.

But you've got to hurt folks a lot before they'll give up their freedoms and trust your political solutions. So look for that.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:41 pm
Nick_A wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:07 pm The coming socialist utopia. Who can argue against peace and love?
Yeah, but they're not secretive about what they have to do to us first: they have to make the most of this "unique, golden opportunity" (their words) they call COVID. They're going to have to hurt us a lot, so that we will be so desperate and scared that we'll go for anything. So look for things to get -- or rather, expect to be told that they're going to get -- much, much worse.

Cities aflame with race riots were not enough. Allegations of impending environmental armageddon have not been enough. Economic shutdowns have not been enough. Fears of immanent, fatal disease have not been quite enough, but have worked much better. Put them all together, and roll in tight control of the media, education and other information, so people have no other perspective, and maybe you get there.

But you've got to hurt folks a lot before they'll give up their freedoms and trust your political solutions. So look for that.
So you’re hereby conceding for Donald Dump?
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commonsense wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:26 pm So you’re hereby conceding for Donald Dump?
Heh. You don't get it, CS. I'm not American. You may as well ask the Ukrainians to "concede" for you.

I'm just pointing out what the next move is for the powers that be...not just in America, but everywhere else, too, if these megalomaniacs at Davos get what they want.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:40 pm
commonsense wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:26 pm So you’re hereby conceding for Donald Dump?
Heh. You don't get it, CS. I'm not American. You may as well ask the Ukrainians to "concede" for you.

I'm just pointing out what the next move is for the powers that be...not just in America, but everywhere else, too, if these megalomaniacs at Davos get what they want.
I would ask anyone to concede the election on behalf of Stump, since he hasn’t done so yet.
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commonsense wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:44 pm I would ask anyone to concede the election on behalf of Stump, since he hasn’t done so yet.
If that business of Davos is what it seems to be, the day will come when you'd be glad to have any President but one that would cooperate with that.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:23 pm
commonsense wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:44 pm I would ask anyone to concede the election on behalf of Stump, since he hasn’t done so yet.
If that business of Davos is what it seems to be, the day will come when you'd be glad to have any President but one that would cooperate with that.
Who/what is Davis?
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commonsense wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:44 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:40 pm
commonsense wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:26 pm So you’re hereby conceding for Donald Dump?
Heh. You don't get it, CS. I'm not American. You may as well ask the Ukrainians to "concede" for you.

I'm just pointing out what the next move is for the powers that be...not just in America, but everywhere else, too, if these megalomaniacs at Davos get what they want.
I would ask anyone to concede the election on behalf of Stump, since he hasn’t done so yet.
The issue is not about conceding the election but about conceding the country. Does America accept corrupted voting machines enabling an obvious fraudulent election?

If Georgia uses the Dominion voting machines in the runoffs, then we know its over. I'll send a banana peel to the Supreme Court to be hung on the wall with a note welcoming in the new banana republic
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commonsense wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:27 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:23 pm
commonsense wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:44 pm I would ask anyone to concede the election on behalf of Stump, since he hasn’t done so yet.
If that business of Davos is what it seems to be, the day will come when you'd be glad to have any President but one that would cooperate with that.
Who/what is Davis?
davos

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henry quirk wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:30 pm
commonsense wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:27 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:23 pm
If that business of Davos is what it seems to be, the day will come when you'd be glad to have any President but one that would cooperate with that.
Who/what is Davis?
davos

look it up
Yes, Davos, not what autocorrect inserted to piss me off. So I googled it and found too many results to be useful. I will wiki it but don’t expect much better luck. If memory serves, there was something in media recently. Oh well.
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commonsense wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:27 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:23 pm
commonsense wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:44 pm I would ask anyone to concede the election on behalf of Stump, since he hasn’t done so yet.
If that business of Davos is what it seems to be, the day will come when you'd be glad to have any President but one that would cooperate with that.
Who/what is Davis?
Davos. Switzerland. If you look up the link I posted earlier, you'll see that everything I said was in the works is already in the works.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:29 am
commonsense wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:27 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:23 pm
If that business of Davos is what it seems to be, the day will come when you'd be glad to have any President but one that would cooperate with that.
Who/what is Davis?
Davos. Switzerland. If you look up the link I posted earlier, you'll see that everything I said was in the works is already in the works.
WEF. Socialist utopia. Tinfoil conspiracy. Great Reset.
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commonsense wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:48 am WEF. Socialist utopia. Tinfoil conspiracy. Great Reset.
Yeah, it's nuts, isn't it? Can you believe they actually think all this is going to happen? And they're jolly as loons about the COVID crisis...calling it their "golden opportunity," and talking about how it gives us a chance to convince people to let them really monkey with the system.

They're all quite mad. It's all so utterly preposterous, so utterly hubristic, so totally out of touch with reality...and so bloody dangerous, if anybody lets these megalomaniacs drive the bus.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:11 pm
But if you doubt me, here it is: https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/
To be honest, I don't see anything on the website to be incredibly alarmed about. They talk about sustainable energy, global inequality and things like that--all good things to talk about. Granted it's a bunch of uber-wealthy people trying to make themselves feel good by thinking they support progressive ideals but in the end, they're mostly probably just paying lip service. They want Capitalism and inequity to thrive as much as anyone because a Socialist economy would mean taking away their wealth and redistributing it and giving more power to ordinary people in the decision-making process of their respective nations.
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