There is no personal God or impersonal God.

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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:40 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:37 pmSo, WHY does the one known as "dontaskme" KEEP REPEATING the same stories over and over again?

Same reason why the one known as Age KEEPs REPEATING the same stories over and over again.
And WHY is 'that'?

Also, I think you will FIND that they are TWO VERY DIFFERENT REASONS.

But as long as 'you' REMAIN as SECRETIVE and DECEITFUL as 'you' have been we will NEVER KNOW, FOR SURE.
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Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:59 pm
And because there is still a LOT that this 'you' does NOT YET KNOW this is WHY 'you' STILL have BELIEF, and STILL ('have to'), BELIEVE some things.
Probably be a good idea to just flush this 'you' down the loo where it belongs. Rather, go right to the actual source of all knowing, and not bother with dithering knowing..Yeah, that'll be a good idea, probably, er yes most definitely.
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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:42 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:37 pmWhat is 'this' here, which SUPPOSEDLY "EVERY one KNOWS"?

SOURCE

Did you forget again?
So, what 'you' are now saying is:

Everyone knows SOURCE, because everyone is no one. Is this now correct?

By the way, I OBVIOUSLY did NOT "forget again" because I NEVER knew EXACTLY what 'you' were SAYING the first time. This is WHY 'I' asked 'you' the CLARIFYING question/s.
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Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:08 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:40 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:37 pmSo, WHY does the one known as "dontaskme" KEEP REPEATING the same stories over and over again?

Same reason why the one known as Age KEEPs REPEATING the same stories over and over again.
And WHY is 'that'?

Also, I think you will FIND that they are TWO VERY DIFFERENT REASONS.

But as long as 'you' REMAIN as SECRETIVE and DECEITFUL as 'you' have been we will NEVER KNOW, FOR SURE.
That's right, the you will never know, not unless it can read minds, which it can. So I guess it does and will know for sure after all.
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Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:13 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:42 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:37 pmWhat is 'this' here, which SUPPOSEDLY "EVERY one KNOWS"?

SOURCE

Did you forget again?
So, what 'you' are now saying is:

Everyone knows SOURCE, because everyone is no one. Is this now correct?

By the way, I OBVIOUSLY did NOT "forget again" because I NEVER knew EXACTLY what 'you' were SAYING the first time. This is WHY 'I' asked 'you' the CLARIFYING question/s.
Why do you always ask for clarifying questions from another you who never provides any? Isn't that a bit pointless?

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Anyhoo ...enough of all this mental nonsense.

Getting back to the OP

If any one has a counter argument against the No personal God claim, then lets hear what you've got.

But do be aware that you might get sucked into the mental asylum while you are participating on my thread, it's unavoidable when talking about characters that do not actually exist... :lol:
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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:49 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:42 pm
WHY do 'you' SAY that the one known here, in this forum, as "age" or "ken" has NO BELIEFS, but then go on to ask 'me' IF 'i' BELIEVE SOME 'thing'?
It was you who said you had no beliefs, and so I'm just repeating back to you what you said. I'm your echo.
But 'you' only echo what 'you' WANTED to hear.

'you' OBVIOUSLY do NOT always echo back what I ACTUALLY SAY.

Also, if, and when, you echo back to me what I actually said, then WHY do you CONTRADICT this with CONTRADICTORY questions?


Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:49 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:42 pmI neither BELIEVE nor DISBELIEVE ANY thing. AND,

I KNOW, EXACTLY, who AND what the one called "dontaskme" REALLY IS.
So do I
SO, who AND what REALLY IS the one called "dontaskme"?

SHOW and REVEAL to 'us' that the one known as "dontaskme" REALLY does KNOW who AND what 'it' IS.
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:49 pm And I believe that knowing.
So, what you wrote just a short moment ago, which was:
I have no requirement for belief in what I already know.

you now CONTRADICTED by stating:
And I believe that knowing.

IF you REALLY WANT to be UNDERSTOOD for, and by, what 'you' say, then you REALLY do need to STOP CONTRADICTING "your" 'self', OR be able to CLEAR UP YOUR, apparent ,CONTRADICTIONS.

If you REALLY do have NO 'requirement' for BELIEF, in what you ALREADY KNOW, then WHY BELIEVE (in) 'that' KNOWING?
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:49 pm I believe that an object is what the concept says it is, if I didn't believe the concept, then the object could be absolutely any thing. Concepts are fixed, for example: a tree can never be a dontaskme and vice versa. 8)
'you' REALLY DO appear EXTREMELY CONFUSED.

An object can still be ABSOLUTELY ANY THING AT ALL. No matter what 'you' BELIEVE. So, WHY 'believe' ANY thing at all?

I SEE 'you' can VERY EASILY EXPLAIN what "dontaskme" is NOT. But can 'you' EXPLAIN what "dontaskme" IS?

If yes, then WILL YOU?

Also, 'you' are FREE to BELIEVE whatever 'you' like. But I do NOT want to KNOW what 'you' BELIEVE is true. I want to KNOW what 'you' KNOW is true.
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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:53 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:48 pm
What do 'you' do after 'you' have finished writing words down?
Nothing.
Well this is OBVIOUSLY a LIE.

How is it ACTUALLY POSSIBLE for a human being to do "nothing"?
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Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:28 pm
I SEE 'you' can VERY EASILY EXPLAIN what "dontaskme" is NOT. But can 'you' EXPLAIN what "dontaskme" IS?

If yes, then WILL YOU?

No ..now fuck off.

I'm sick of repeating myself, and besides, you too only hear what you want to hear anyway, so fuck you...for now, untill I can be bothered to play silly word/mind games with myself again.



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Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:28 pm An object can still be ABSOLUTELY ANY THING AT ALL. No matter what 'you' BELIEVE. So, WHY 'believe' ANY thing at all?
Concepts are fixed that's why.

Belief is just something that we all agree on. For example: an apple is not an orange, we can all agree that the concept apple is fixed, in that the apple cannot be any thing other than an apple.

You do not show an apple to a child who is learning what an object is for the first time and then tell them the apple is an orange do you?
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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:03 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:50 pm
'you' REALLY do NOT YET have ANY comprehension NOR ANY understanding of what 'I' have been ACTUALLY MEANING here, have you?


NO. And this is EXACTLY WHY 'I' ask 'you' for CLARIFICATION.

Unfortunately, however, 'you' are YET ABLE to provide ANY really.
Gosh that must really suck that you are yet able to provide any clarifcation for your request for them.
WHY does the one known as "dontaskme" feel the NEED to, OBVIOUSLY, twist AND distort what "others" have ACTUALLY STATED and SAID?

What does, "you are yet able to provide any clarification for your request for them", actually mean?

Are you saying that I am not yet able to provide any clarification for what I am requesting?

If yes, can you REALLY NOT YET SEE, or maybe REALLY NOT YET UNDERSTAND, my clarifying questions?

If you KNOW that I am 'requesting them', then you also KNOW that I am requesting/asking CLARIFYING QUESTIONS for CLARITY, from 'you'.

'you' speak VERY CONTRADICTORY so I just ask 'you' CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, like for example:

What EXACTLY is the 'them' word referring to here, in YOUR sentence?

Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:03 pm Have you tried asking SOURCE ...that may be able to provide them for you.
I can VERY SIMPLY and VERY EASILY obtain ANSWERS/CLARITY from SOURCE, and have ALREADY DONE SO.

I ask 'you', "dontaskme", CLARIFYING QUESTIONS to SEE just how much, or just how little, YOUR responses are in line with thee Sources.

Now, did 'you' CLARIFY what the 'them' word, in your sentence, is in relation to EXACTLY?

If yes, then great.

But in no, then WHY NOT?
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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:09 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:59 pm
And because there is still a LOT that this 'you' does NOT YET KNOW this is WHY 'you' STILL have BELIEF, and STILL ('have to'), BELIEVE some things.
Probably be a good idea to just flush this 'you' down the loo where it belongs. Rather, go right to the actual source of all knowing, and not bother with dithering knowing..Yeah, that'll be a good idea, probably, er yes most definitely.
But it is 'you' who will NOT let this 'you' go (down the drain). It is 'you' who keeps bringing this 'you' back up.

How about 'you' just ANSWER the ACTUAL CLARIFYING QUESTIONS posed TO 'YOU' OPENLY and Honestly. 'you' KNOW, like from thee Source?

That way ALL could be REVEALED much quicker, simpler, and easier.

OBVIOUSLY, 'you' VERY DESPERATELY WANT to REVEAL some thing, so how about being Truly OPEN and Honest so that what 'it' IS, which you want to SHOW 'us' can be FULLY SEEN and FULLY UNDERSTOOD?
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Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:29 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:53 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:48 pm
What do 'you' do after 'you' have finished writing words down?
Nothing.
Well this is OBVIOUSLY a LIE.

How is it ACTUALLY POSSIBLE for a human being to do "nothing"?
It's just a figure of speech that's all....you know, like when you ask a child what are you doing and the child says nothing...but you really know they were doing something, and so does the child.





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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:16 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:08 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:40 pm


Same reason why the one known as Age KEEPs REPEATING the same stories over and over again.
And WHY is 'that'?

Also, I think you will FIND that they are TWO VERY DIFFERENT REASONS.

But as long as 'you' REMAIN as SECRETIVE and DECEITFUL as 'you' have been we will NEVER KNOW, FOR SURE.
That's right, the you will never know, not unless it can read minds, which it can. So I guess it does and will know for sure after all.
ONCE AGAIN, 'you' will NOT just ANSWER the ACTUAL QUESTION posed.

Thee, one and ONLY, 'I' KNOWS, for sure. The, many and lots of, 'you' only thinks, or assumes.

There is ONLY One Mind. So, reading It is EXTREMELY SIMPLE and EASY.

The 'you', however, can only obtain thee KNOWING, of and from thee Mind, through ABSOLUTE Honesty, which OBVIOUSLY does NOT involve the secrets NOR the deceit, which you are EXPOSING here now.
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Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:47 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:09 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:59 pm
And because there is still a LOT that this 'you' does NOT YET KNOW this is WHY 'you' STILL have BELIEF, and STILL ('have to'), BELIEVE some things.
Probably be a good idea to just flush this 'you' down the loo where it belongs. Rather, go right to the actual source of all knowing, and not bother with dithering knowing..Yeah, that'll be a good idea, probably, er yes most definitely.
But it is 'you' who will NOT let this 'you' go (down the drain). It is 'you' who keeps bringing this 'you' back up.

How about 'you' just ANSWER the ACTUAL CLARIFYING QUESTIONS posed TO 'YOU' OPENLY and Honestly. 'you' KNOW, like from thee Source?

That way ALL could be REVEALED much quicker, simpler, and easier.

OBVIOUSLY, 'you' VERY DESPERATELY WANT to REVEAL some thing, so how about being Truly OPEN and Honest so that what 'it' IS, which you want to SHOW 'us' can be FULLY SEEN and FULLY UNDERSTOOD?
I do answer the clarifying questions ...but I can't do anything about it when you don't like to hear the answers, or that you say things like I do not provide any that you can agree on. Or even when you say things like I don't even have any to provide you with at all.

What can I do about that?

Also, I do not want to desperately reveal something at all, so I do not know why you keep saying that. I've already told you what I am doing on this forum, but you don't seem to want to accept the reason I've given you.



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