Nick_A wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:48 am
Obviously we disagree. Since my goal is the unification of the essence of religion and impartial science, I need to read logical reasons why my ideas are wrong.
Nick, you are never wrong in the sense of your own deep ingrained set of beliefs due to your conditioned programming that is unique to your own brains algorithm, and what you have come to accept as truth. It's the same for every human brain, each brain will have their own story, their own dreamt up reality.
Science is steeped in politics anyway, same with religion. Where there is an agenda there's going to be opposition, that's the nature of the human psychology. That will never change. So there's no hope of a unification there simply because it's a human mental construct that does not actually exist in nature. I believe change comes from within through enlightenment which to me simply means auspiciously seeing human nature for what it is. I believe in the serenity verse like you do..
''God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference.''
I cannot change the world or people in some sort of unification sense, I can only change myself. And that goes for every one else.
Nick_A wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:48 amWhat is “no brain”? Is that the same as conscious mind which includes every thing and the lawful divisions of the Absolute in potential or just no mind empty of all potential that can evolve?
To me, the human brain is just a mechanical programmable device that works like a computer, and we are the by-product outworkings of it's programming that is put in there by all our emotional and conditioned belief systems that we have collectively agreed upon. We have no idea what brain made the brain, in the same context we have no idea about the hows and the what's of life original origin itself except our own interpretation and direct experience of what being alive feels like to us. We just don't know how the whole universal enchilada ever got off it's own starting block...we cannot know, we cannot ever know. What we do know is that we are feeling creatures we know sensation and so does every other sentient animal. That's all we can know for certain. We know that pain is bad and pleasure is good, so if we know that then so too do the animals, so we have no right to IMPOSE or deliberately inflict pain on any other living sentient creature. But because we do, and that makes us disgusting.
Some would say or argue God did it, but I don't know, no one does if they are totally honest. It's all just so easy to say GOD DID IT
So, all we've got are our made up stories, our theories and speculations, in reality, we know nothing. We are without doubt or error, but we know nothing else except what we make up and superimpose that make-up upon our not-knowing, and then believe what we think we know, and that is what the brain does. But notice that nature doesn't really have a brain, trees for example do not have a brain and yet they are life, so that's what I meant by 'no brain'
Nick_A wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:48 amEverything in the universe eats everything else. If so, suffering is a necessary biproduct of our universe which Plato called the Good because it is necessary. Compassion is an evolved reaction to a universal necessity
The necessity to eat is there that's all. Compassion evolved in humans because they know how suffering is caused, it is caused by eating other sentient creatures, we cause them suffering and pain when we know that is not a necessity, and yet we do it anyway, and that's the difference between humans and the animals, they do not know any better, but we do. Just because we have evolved the knowledge that inflicting unecessary pain and suffering on others is wrong, and or immoral, does not mean we are some special divine creature above and beyond every other living sentient creature.
We are an animal too, that will never change, in fact because we are self aware, we can pretend to be anything we want, we can wear many masks and hide behind them fooling not only ourselves but others too. We can be deliberate and intentional...whereas other animals do not have that intellectual capacity to know like we do, which makes the human a very powerful and dangerous species actually, and nothing special or divine at all, in fact the truth is more that we take advantage of our ability to be self-centred and selfish by thinking and believing that we are more privileged with special immunities etc...
We have taken on the false belief that we are the dominant species over every other living sentient life, even the earth itself, but this belief is a false power, as every cause has it's effect, known as instant karma.
We are in essence anti-social creatures, we only pretend to be social because we KNOW that working together benefits our health and survival chances,
But because we have self-aware knowledge, this has made us vain, secretive, and suspicious of other peoples real intentions, so we have developed really big trust issues which makes us more inclined to be anti-social....we are deep down very insecure, so that is why we pretend to be social creatures so we can gain acceptance and recognition. Unlike animals who do not need to feel that important, because it is not a natural necessity to feel important.
We human prefer our privacy, and if we cannot get enough of it, we may turn into sad little savage beasts......we may even resort to violence and murder in favor of our own privacy and freedom.
I used to believe there was a higher power Nick, but then I suddenly woke up out of my precious God delusion that I refused to let go of until one day I saw the actual truth.
And that truth is what I am reporting as I see it with my own eyes. There is no forever God, there is only temporal appearances coming and going, nowhere, now here.
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