American election.

[gaffo]

It’s also time for all of us to put on our grownup garb and reach out to each other with a handshake of cooperation.

Before all that, it's time to fix a clearly broken electoral system by nationalizing and standardizing it, return media to the idea of impartiality, break the monopolies held by Google, Facebook and Twitter, and restore voter confidence that whomever they get, it's the guy they actually voted for.

In this case, the worst thing for everyone is uncertainty.

Yeah, let’s cooperate to do all that.

fuck that!

Biden won, rump lost - even under the EC, so there is no contest per the election.

only contest is "will America allow cult-45 remove the Rule of Law and reinstate a president that lost because that is their wish.

so shit on my Constitution/rule of law or affirm it.

that is the only option today!

[gaffo]

karma is a bitch leftists

-Imp

I'm drinking your tears now Fascist, your Messiah lost a free and fair election - moreso than Billary lost to him 4 yrs ago.

now that you deny the Rule of Law/Fair Elections, and as a fascist asshole demand your Dear Leader to take power regardless of him losing.

...........

will you to take arms in isurrection via my 2nd amendment to my Constitution and the Rule of Law to make Dear Leader rule for another 4 yrs after he lost?

if so you are a full bore asshole and uttlery unamerican.

move to North Korea dick, true americans, we who affirm the Rule of Law - have no use for traitors to America, as you clearly are.

[gaffo]

That’s right, HQ, be the smaller man.

that's rich comin' from a guy comfortable talkin' poorly about ORANGE MAN and ORANGE MAN voters

should I go through your thread history and replicate all your comments here?

where was all your conciliatory spirit two weeks ago, two months ago?

include me on that count, Mango Mussalini was and is an asshole (and he lost the election) - I too have disparaged your messiah on my threads.

to you:

1. are you able to take your feelings aside? - and man up?
2. do you affirm the rule of law/our OUR Constitution, and so man up and affirm you messiah lost fair and square.
3. or are you going to play a 5th column, go full demented koolaid drinker and shit on my Constitution and Rule of law because your Dear Leader lost.

which are you Sir? - of the three.

if you are #3 you are literally an ememy of My State and a fullbore Fascist, willing to destroy the Rule of Law to install your Dear Leader.

clarify which type of person you are.

[gaffo]

I have long asked, “Can’t we all just get along?”

no we cannot, not when 1/2 of Amerklans shit on our Constitution.

otherwise, expect - dems playing pussy, and Demo-Republic being lost - aka Germany 1933.

so no - pull your head out, and see that we cannot all get alone, and fight FIGHT THEM to defeat DEFEAT - in order to save Liberty.

otherwise, just sit there like a lump on a stump because "we cant all get alone" (that day is long over - FIGHT! dammit) until Liberty is done and over with

[Impenitent]

karma is a bitch leftists

-Imp

I'm drinking your tears now Fascist, your Messiah lost a free and fair election - moreso than Billary lost to him 4 yrs ago.

now that you deny the Rule of Law/Fair Elections, and as a fascist asshole demand your Dear Leader to take power regardless of him losing.

...........

will you to take arms in isurrection via my 2nd amendment to my Constitution and the Rule of Law to make Dear Leader rule for another 4 yrs after he lost?

if so you are a full bore asshole and uttlery unamerican.

move to North Korea dick, true americans, we who affirm the Rule of Law - have no use for traitors to America, as you clearly are.

thank you

finis

-Imp

[gaffo]

If the Republicans maintain the senate while winning the House in two years, then they can impeach Biden for Russian interference. Trump will run again and if we get handle on corrupt mail in ballots, we'll be back to square one

yep, and that would be fully legal. more power to you.

so from above, i can assume you are a Patriotic American and not a Constitution/Rule of Law hating Fascist thug.

good, and good luck in your wishes (I hope your above does not happen, but affirm that i might and is legal and so affirm it), from one Rule of Law affirming American to another.

[gaffo]

karma is a bitch leftists

-Imp


I'm drinking your tears now Fascist, your Messiah lost a free and fair election - moreso than Billary lost to him 4 yrs ago.

now that you deny the Rule of Law/Fair Elections, and as a fascist asshole demand your Dear Leader to take power regardless of him losing.

...........

will you to take arms in isurrection via my 2nd amendment to my Constitution and the Rule of Law to make Dear Leader rule for another 4 yrs after he lost?

if so you are a full bore asshole and uttlery unamerican.

move to North Korea dick, true americans, we who affirm the Rule of Law - have no use for traitors to America, as you clearly are.

thank you

finis

-Imp

for what? calling you a fascist or calling you to arms to destroy our America and her Constitution/Rule of Law?

-----------

i guess i boils down to how Fascist you are (we know you hate the Rule of Law/Constitution - ie. install Dear Leader always, ignore Elections -----so that is clear.

what is not clear is how harcore are you per your Fascism?

will to take a bullet for it? - out in the streets demanding your losing messiah be reinstated counter to 240 yrs of United States Constitutional law?

self sacrifce is hard i know, lets try an easy one, you willing to kill others - on the street with your legal ar-15 - shoot a few on the street - to champion your Mango Mussalini koolaid loving messiah - as "save america, fuck the Constitution, instate my Dear Leader! - by blood - others - if need be.

you willing?


or just a soft shell Fascist? not willing to kill yourself in a blaze of battle to install an unelected messiah, and instead just a puss fascist, sulking in your basement for another 4 yrs.

[gaffo]

... return media to the idea of impartiality,

Well if they did that, Fox News would have to straighten up their act as much as any of the other channels. I doubt the people at Fox News would agree to that.

The whole bunch of them need to become reacquainted with the idea of impartiality. They've all lost the track, and become partisan advocates instead. But it's really no legitimate role of the news to influence opinion. Their legitimate job is only to inform it, and to hold all the powers-that-be, on both sides, accountable to the public. At least, that's the role of the fifth estate in democratic polities.

They've lost that vision. And maybe they're incapable of getting it back. If that's the case, then the second-best solution is simply this: to increase the number of outlets and voices until none of them is even particularly or uniquely credible anymore, and people have to sift for themselves. A million small news outlets are less of a problem then a couple of monolithic, deliberately-manipulative ones, and in this way, all fact, big and small, important and trivial, left and right, can end up out on the table somewhere.

But letting large agencies control the public awareness of the truth or lie with impunity...that's a recipe for destroying democracy.

ys, but Reagan remove the Fairness Doctrine in media, and then later under Clinton the media all consolidated from 30 outlets to 5!

and now 3!

so ya media consolidation = copr interests, which is to dumb down americans - rump as elected, and now 1/2 of "americaklans" are shitting on my Constitution and the Electional Rule of Law.

mission accomplished.

[henry quirk]

That’s right, HQ, be the smaller man.

that's rich comin' from a guy comfortable talkin' poorly about ORANGE MAN and ORANGE MAN voters

should I go through your thread history and replicate all your comments here?

where was all your conciliatory spirit two weeks ago, two months ago?

include me on that count, Mango Mussalini was and is an asshole (and he lost the election) - I too have disparaged your messiah on my threads.

disparage away...my objection was with disparagement on one hand and lookin' for reconciliation on the other...seems hypocritical to me

to you:

1. are you able to take your feelings aside? - and man up?

only feelings I have about it are I'm sorry I might have to lose my lil ORANGE hand-grenade

2. do you affirm the rule of law/our OUR Constitution, and so man up and affirm you messiah lost fair and square.

ORANGE MAN indeed have lost...we'll just have to wait for formal certification of popular votes and the casting of electoral votes next month

3. or are you going to play a 5th column, go full demented koolaid drinker and shit on my Constitution and Rule of law because your Dear Leader lost.

I got my own, independent brand of crazy, thank you very much

which are you Sir? - of the three.

if you are #3 you are literally an ememy of My State and a fullbore Fascist, willing to destroy the Rule of Law to install your Dear Leader.

clarify which type of person you are.

[Nick_A]

If nothing else, this election has proven the reality of the supernatural world. We've learned that the dead vote. We know it can't be the fault of democrats since to think that much less say it is racism. Impossible and intolerable. So the only other alternative is that the dead feeling compelled to vote managed to leave their graves long enough to vote. If that isn't proof of a supernatural reality, I don't know what is.

[Immanuel Can]

If nothing else, this election has proven the reality of the supernatural world. We've learned that the dead vote. We know it can't be the fault of democrats since to think that much less say it is racism. Impossible and intolerable. So the only other alternative is that the dead feeling compelled to vote managed to leave their graves long enough to vote. If that isn't proof of a supernatural reality, I don't know what is.

I do find it interesting that both parties are not equally earnest that the count should be checked. It seems to me that in any legitimate win, one would welcome accuracy in vote-counting. In fact, the winner, whomever he is, would be very well served by knowing and being able to boast that the American public has scrutinized and confirmed the vote count, and the guy in office was unquestionably legit.

Is there a reason, other than knowing you've been dishonest, why you would ever object to an impartial confirmation process? I can't think of one...

[commonsense]

If nothing else, this election has proven the reality of the supernatural world. We've learned that the dead vote. We know it can't be the fault of democrats since to think that much less say it is racism. Impossible and intolerable. So the only other alternative is that the dead feeling compelled to vote managed to leave their graves long enough to vote. If that isn't proof of a supernatural reality, I don't know what is.

That the dead voted is an old wives tale, actual fake news.

[commonsense]

If nothing else, this election has proven the reality of the supernatural world. We've learned that the dead vote. We know it can't be the fault of democrats since to think that much less say it is racism. Impossible and intolerable. So the only other alternative is that the dead feeling compelled to vote managed to leave their graves long enough to vote. If that isn't proof of a supernatural reality, I don't know what is.

I do find it interesting that both parties are not equally earnest that the count should be checked. It seems to me that in any legitimate win, one would welcome accuracy in vote-counting. In fact, the winner, whomever he is, would be very well served by knowing and being able to boast that the American public has scrutinized and confirmed the vote count, and the guy in office was unquestionably legit.

Is there a reason, other than knowing you've been dishonest, why you would ever object to an impartial confirmation process? I can't think of one...

Are you honestly surprised that the winners in any presidential election are always objecting to recounts?

[Immanuel Can]

If nothing else, this election has proven the reality of the supernatural world. We've learned that the dead vote. We know it can't be the fault of democrats since to think that much less say it is racism. Impossible and intolerable. So the only other alternative is that the dead feeling compelled to vote managed to leave their graves long enough to vote. If that isn't proof of a supernatural reality, I don't know what is.

I do find it interesting that both parties are not equally earnest that the count should be checked. It seems to me that in any legitimate win, one would welcome accuracy in vote-counting. In fact, the winner, whomever he is, would be very well served by knowing and being able to boast that the American public has scrutinized and confirmed the vote count, and the guy in office was unquestionably legit.

Is there a reason, other than knowing you've been dishonest, why you would ever object to an impartial confirmation process? I can't think of one...

Are you honestly surprised that the winners in any presidential election are always objecting to recounts?

Yes. Honestly.I would think they would only benefit from certainty.

Don't they want to have everyone know for sure that they deserve the position they have obtained? Have they any interest in letting a shadow of doubt linger over their presidency? Don't they want everyone to know, "We beat those guys, fair and square; and nobody but us has the right to lead this country"?

Why wouldn't they want that?

[commonsense]

It’s unfathomable that anyone would chance an action to their own detriment without any corresponding benefit.

It may be ugly politics, but nonetheless it is true: winners are opposed to rechecking their win.

Are you so naive as to believe that political actors are the angels of elections?