maintaining an internal dialectic

[Advocate]

How do you recognize/prevent/deal with logical fallacies, cognitive biases, and unwarranted beliefs in yourself?

[commonsense]

How do you recognize/prevent/deal with logical fallacies, cognitive biases, and unwarranted beliefs in yourself?

Others must recognize & deal with logical fallacies, cognitive biases, and unwarranted beliefs in me.

[FlashDangerpants]

How do you recognize/prevent/deal with logical fallacies, cognitive biases, and unwarranted beliefs in yourself?

I'm afraid you need to start with an innate ability to understand that you might not be right before you can usefully look for the actual ways in which you have been wrong. Persons who, through whichever misfortune, can say the words "I am not perfect" but cannot actually understand them, simply aren't going to make it to the next stage without the help of a trained medical professional.

[Advocate]

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How do you recognize/prevent/deal with logical fallacies, cognitive biases, and unwarranted beliefs in yourself?
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I'm afraid you need to start with an innate ability to understand that you might not be right before you can usefully look for the actual ways in which you have been wrong. Persons who, through whichever misfortune, can say the words "I am not perfect" but cannot actually understand them, simply aren't going to make it to the next stage without the help of a trained medical professional.
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When you actually are right, all the rules change. Truth can only lose in compromise. Only confirmation bias is acceptable to a true truth-teller. You seem to be conflating the best sages of all time with ignorant egotists. The ability to check yourself is unrelated to whether your actually are right, and if you are, you should increasingly stop listening to anything else as that evidence mounts.

[FlashDangerpants]

How do you recognize/prevent/deal with logical fallacies, cognitive biases, and unwarranted beliefs in yourself?

I'm afraid you need to start with an innate ability to understand that you might not be right before you can usefully look for the actual ways in which you have been wrong. Persons who, through whichever misfortune, can say the words "I am not perfect" but cannot actually understand them, simply aren't going to make it to the next stage without the help of a trained medical professional.

When you actually are right, all the rules change. Truth can only lose in compromise. Only confirmation bias is acceptable to a true truth-teller. You seem to be conflating the best sages of all time with ignorant egotists. The ability to check yourself is unrelated to whether your actually are right, and if you are, you should increasingly stop listening to anything else as that evidence mounts.

Stuff like that is why there nothing that anybody here can do for you. You need in person assistance from a professional with the appropriate training. But even then there's not likely to be much they can do for you if you haven't learned that you have a problem yet.

[Advocate]

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[quote=FlashDangerpants post_id=477850 time=1604135113 user_id=11800]

I'm afraid you need to start with an innate ability to understand that you might not be right before you can usefully look for the actual ways in which you have been wrong. Persons who, through whichever misfortune, can say the words "I am not perfect" but cannot actually understand them, simply aren't going to make it to the next stage without the help of a trained medical professional.
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When you actually are right, all the rules change. Truth can only lose in compromise. Only confirmation bias is acceptable to a true truth-teller. You seem to be conflating the best sages of all time with ignorant egotists. The ability to check yourself is unrelated to whether your actually are right, and if you are, you should increasingly stop listening to anything else as that evidence mounts.
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Stuff like that is why there nothing that anybody here can do for you. You need in person assistance from a professional with the appropriate training. But even then there's not likely to be much they can do for you if you haven't learned that you have a problem yet.
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It's interesting how you go immediately to a personal attack on the credibility of my mind without in any sense addressing any point i've actually made. This is why philosophy goes nowhere. The lack of understanding of people like you has metastasized.

[FlashDangerpants]

It's interesting how you go immediately to a personal attack on the credibility of my mind without in any sense addressing any point i've actually made. This is why philosophy goes nowhere. The lack of understanding of people like you has metastasized.

There wasn't much need to address the content of what you wrote, it was insane gibberings fit only for a narcissist to take seriously. Utter shit like "Only confirmation bias is acceptable to a true truth-teller" doesn't merit philosophical debate. The fool who presents it needs treatment.

[Advocate]

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[quote=Advocate post_id=477922 time=1604164390 user_id=15238]
It's interesting how you go immediately to a personal attack on the credibility of my mind without in any sense addressing any point i've actually made. This is why philosophy goes nowhere. The lack of understanding of people like you has metastasized.
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There wasn't much need to address the content of what you wrote, it was insane gibberings fit only for a narcissist to take seriously. Utter shit like [i]"Only confirmation bias is acceptable to a true truth-teller" [/i]doesn't merit philosophical debate. The fool who presents it needs treatment.
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There are these things called logical fallacies you might read up on. Also, since you're determined to ensure it's impossible to discuss ideas, you might consider, from the goodness of your heart, refraining from any posts about how philosophy goes nowhere.

Now to the point - If you know the truth, anyone who disagrees with you is wrong, n'est-ce pas? Is it not necessarily so? That's how words work. If it's not possible to know the truth, philosophy (and science) is useless. If it is possible, at least someone has presumably found some by now, since it's been part of the human project since ever. That means at least someone (including myself, as it happens) must only accept confirmation bias rather than refutation in at least some field of inquiry. There is no way to get closer to the truth by accepting outside influences if you've already found it. It can be honed, it can be redirected, but it cannot be wrong. It's truth. It's unfortunate you don't recognise it, such as in this paragraph, or you could get somewhere with your own philosophy instead of impeding others'.

[FlashDangerpants]

That means at least someone (including myself, as it happens) must only accept confirmation bias rather than refutation in at least some field of inquiry.

That all rather falls down if you are a highly confused loon writing banal shit and claiming to be a great philosopher though. Which is descriptively accurate of your current predicament.

[Advocate]

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[quote=Advocate post_id=478041 time=1604239504 user_id=15238]
That means at least someone (including myself, as it happens) must only accept confirmation bias rather than refutation in at least some field of inquiry.[/quote]
That all rather falls down if you are a highly confused loon writing banal shit and claiming to be a great philosopher though. Which is descriptively accurate of your current predicament.
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Well, at least you introduced the idea of epistemological warrant. A highly-confused loon has none, but the Truth wishes to be tested, not accepted blindly. My epistemological warrant is doing just fine, thanks for asking.

[FlashDangerpants]

Well, at least you introduced the idea of epistemological warrant. A highly-confused loon has none, but the Truth wishes to be tested, not accepted blindly. My epistemological warrant is doing just fine, thanks for asking.

As a man apparently putting in very little effort to struggle against an obvious personality disorder, you would be expected to believe you are doing great.

[Advocate]

[quote=FlashDangerpants post_id=478054 time=1604242818 user_id=11800]
[quote=Advocate post_id=478049 time=1604240315 user_id=15238]
Well, at least you introduced the idea of epistemological warrant. A highly-confused loon has none, but the Truth wishes to be tested, not accepted blindly. My epistemological warrant is doing just fine, thanks for asking.
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As a man apparently putting in very little effort to struggle against an obvious personality disorder, you would be expected to believe you are doing great.
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You must be a bot. You literally talk about nothing else but psychological problems. Are you familiar with "projection"?

[FlashDangerpants]

Well, at least you introduced the idea of epistemological warrant. A highly-confused loon has none, but the Truth wishes to be tested, not accepted blindly. My epistemological warrant is doing just fine, thanks for asking.

As a man apparently putting in very little effort to struggle against an obvious personality disorder, you would be expected to believe you are doing great.

You must be a bot. You literally talk about nothing else but psychological problems. Are you familiar with "projection"?

What other topic is there to bother with in your case? You wrote without irony that all you need is confirmation bias, and also that you need to be tested. So there's no point wsating effort on your philosophical works, you have zero talent, you contradict yourself without any trap needing to be placed.

[Advocate]

[quote=FlashDangerpants post_id=478060 time=1604244012 user_id=11800]
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[quote=FlashDangerpants post_id=478054 time=1604242818 user_id=11800]

As a man apparently putting in very little effort to struggle against an obvious personality disorder, you would be expected to believe you are doing great.
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You must be a bot. You literally talk about nothing else but psychological problems. Are you familiar with "projection"?
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What other topic is there to bother with in your case? You wrote without irony that all you need is confirmation bias, and also that you need to be tested. So there's no point wsating effort on your philosophical works, you have zero talent, you contradict yourself without any trap needing to be placed.
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That's neither what i said nor meant.

[FlashDangerpants]

You must be a bot. You literally talk about nothing else but psychological problems. Are you familiar with "projection"?

What other topic is there to bother with in your case? You wrote without irony that all you need is confirmation bias, and also that you need to be tested. So there's no point wsating effort on your philosophical works, you have zero talent, you contradict yourself without any trap needing to be placed.

That's neither what i said nor meant.

This is what you said

That means at least someone (including myself, as it happens) must only accept confirmation bias rather than refutation in at least some field of inquiry.

the Truth wishes to be tested, not accepted blindly.

If it's not what you meant, then be more careful.