Calling All Liberal Race Baiters

[henry quirk]

I’m not well versed in emojis. What does the rolling pin and billiard ball mean?

Cricket bat and ball. The game is sort of like baseball.

bat, not racket: check

[henry quirk]

I hesitate to respond, because you believe your stories are unlikely but possible.

Well, so unlikely no sensible person is going to go with them, of course. But I'm still open to hearing anything...anything at all...that makes it plausible.

I gave you a story alternative, but somehow you missed it.

Did you? Did you hit "quote"? Because I certainly never saw it.

I checked back. It's not there.

What was it?

I thought it was the racism...mebbe I missed sumthin' too

[commonsense]

Well, and what's the alternate thesis?

That police are profiling black drivers and pulling them over for any minor reason they can come up with.

Anyway, 5 over is, technically, breaking the law. The cops do have a right to pull over anybody for it. It may seem trivial to you and me, but it's not actually wrong for them to do that. We are, in fact, breaking the law.

The ROI for exceeding the speed limit by 5 mph is so low that even a cop on forced holiday duty does not ordinarily want to invest his or her time for the meager monetary return.

Read carefully. There’s an alternate story here.

[henry quirk]

Well, and what's the alternate thesis?

That police are profiling black drivers and pulling them over for any minor reason they can come up with.

Anyway, 5 over is, technically, breaking the law. The cops do have a right to pull over anybody for it. It may seem trivial to you and me, but it's not actually wrong for them to do that. We are, in fact, breaking the law.

The ROI for exceeding the speed limit by 5 mph is so low that even a cop on forced holiday duty does not ordinarily want to invest his or her time for the meager monetary return.

Read carefully. There’s an alternate story here.

yeah, racism, like I said (never mind that steve and me punctured that up-thread)

[commonsense]

That police are profiling black drivers and pulling them over for any minor reason they can come up with.



The ROI for exceeding the speed limit by 5 mph is so low that even a cop on forced holiday duty does not ordinarily want to invest his or her time for the meager monetary return.

Read carefully. There’s an alternate story here.

yeah, racism, like I said (never mind that steve and me punctured that up-thread)

Not racism. Systemic racism.

[henry quirk]

Read carefully. There’s an alternate story here.

yeah, racism, like I said (never mind that steve and me punctured that up-thread)

Not racism. Systemic racism.

there you go...back to square one

[Immanuel Can]

Not racism. Systemic racism.

there you go...back to square one

Well, "systemic racism" is the biggest non-answer of all. It doesn't even have a specific meaning.

But I'll persevere: since a society is made up of many different "systems," I have to ask "which system," first of all. The "educational" system? The "political" system -- local, regional or national, and both parties? The "transportation" system? The judiciary? The "employment" system? The "food-distribution" system? The "welfare" system? The "medical" system? What?

Which "system" do you blame, and what's the proof that that "system" is "racist"?

If you can't find any particular system that's racist, then what's your basis for saying that it even is?

[commonsense]

Not racism. Systemic racism.

there you go...back to square one

Well, "systemic racism" is the biggest non-answer of all. It doesn't even have a specific meaning.

But I'll persevere: since a society is made up of many different "systems," I have to ask "which system," first of all. The "educational" system? The "political" system -- local, regional or national, and both parties? The "transportation" system? The judiciary? The "employment" system? The "food-distribution" system? The "welfare" system? The "medical" system? What?

Which "system" do you blame, and what's the proof that that "system" is "racist"?

If you can't find any particular system that's racist, then what's your basis for saying that it even is?

Law enforcement. It’s systemic because profiling isn’t limited, system-wide. The proof is not in the individual incidents, but rather in the overall data showing that one race is 3 times as likely as another to be shot and killed by police who are cogs in the wheels of the system.

[Immanuel Can]

Which "system" do you blame, and what's the proof that that "system" is "racist"?

Law enforcement. It’s systemic because profiling isn’t limited, system-wide. The proof is not in the individual incidents, but rather in the overall data showing that one race is 3 times as likely as another to be shot and killed by police who are cogs in the wheels of the system.

I see. But apparently, the data doesn't actually support your claim.

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQCQFH5wOJo&t=276s

So now that you know that the alleged "profiling," (if any is happening) is statistically actually in favour of black suspects per capita, rather than against them, what do you say now about the system?

[commonsense]

Which "system" do you blame, and what's the proof that that "system" is "racist"?

Law enforcement. It’s systemic because profiling isn’t limited, system-wide. The proof is not in the individual incidents, but rather in the overall data showing that one race is 3 times as likely as another to be shot and killed by police who are cogs in the wheels of the system.

I see. But apparently, the data doesn't actually support your claim.

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQCQFH5wOJo&t=276s

So now that you know that the alleged "profiling," (if any is happening) is statistically actually in favour of black suspects per capita, rather than against them, what do you say now about the system?

It’s fixed. You’re fixed. The whole thing is fixed.

[henry quirk]

Law enforcement. It’s systemic because profiling isn’t limited, system-wide. The proof is not in the individual incidents, but rather in the overall data showing that one race is 3 times as likely as another to be shot and killed by police who are cogs in the wheels of the system.

I see. But apparently, the data doesn't actually support your claim.

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQCQFH5wOJo&t=276s

So now that you know that the alleged "profiling," (if any is happening) is statistically actually in favour of black suspects per capita, rather than against them, what do you say now about the system?

It’s fixed. You’re fixed. The whole thing is fixed.

thus endth the discussion...

[Immanuel Can]

It’s fixed. You’re fixed. The whole thing is fixed.

I was never broken.

But my cat is "fixed."

What makes you suppose you're not getting the simple truth? Or are you just kidding?

[SteveKlinko]

Law enforcement. It’s systemic because profiling isn’t limited, system-wide. The proof is not in the individual incidents, but rather in the overall data showing that one race is 3 times as likely as another to be shot and killed by police who are cogs in the wheels of the system.

I see. But apparently, the data doesn't actually support your claim.

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQCQFH5wOJo&t=276s

So now that you know that the alleged "profiling," (if any is happening) is statistically actually in favour of black suspects per capita, rather than against them, what do you say now about the system?

It’s fixed. You’re fixed. The whole thing is fixed.

What a fool believes, no wise man can reason away.

[Skepdick]

What a fool believes, no wise man can reason away.

There's certainly no convincing "wise men" that they are fools...

[FlashDangerpants]

Well, now we at least have a written record showing us why the word "whitesplain" has to exist.