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There's only one problem in society - resource allocation.
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Advocate wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:36 pm There's only one problem in society - resource allocation.
That makes two problems.

Which resources need allocating?

That makes three problems.

Who allocates resources?

That makes four problems.

How do resources that need allocating get allocated by whoever is allocating them?
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There's only one problem in society - resource allocation.
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That makes two problems.

Which resources need allocating?

That makes three problems.

Who allocates resources?

That makes four problems.

How do resources that need allocating get allocated by whoever is allocating them?
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Yes, that makes all the problems. The answer is that resource allocation is at the bottom of it. The solution to each individual instance must be bespoke.
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Advocate wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:35 pm Yes, that makes all the problems. The answer is that resource allocation is at the bottom of it. The solution to each individual instance must be bespoke.
Then you are clearly unaware of the Cornucopian/Malthusian dichotomy.
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Yes, that makes all the problems. The answer is that resource allocation is at the bottom of it. The solution to each individual instance must be bespoke.
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Then you are clearly unaware of the Cornucopian/Malthusian dichotomy.
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I'm familiar with the ideas but not the context in which you wish them included. There are two ways to increase resources, gathering, and efficiency. Keeping the population down would decrease the need for resources, thus making it less important to increase efficiency. Increasing efficiency, including by technological means, will help lower the need for resources relative to what's already needed. The former is clearly better as it operates at a more fundamental level. It is more efficient than using efficiency as a bandaid.
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the only problem is human greed

the weak think they can unite (in the name of socialism, communism, religion, democracy, or whatever distraction) and steal it from those that have it while those that have it build better mechanisms to keep it...

history never repeats

the only caveat is that we have split the atom and will end the planet sooner than we think

sweet dreams

-Imp
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