P=P is a Contradiction

[Skepdick]

The blue dot is 2 segments from the other.

No, it isn't. The blue dot is 4 units away from every red dot.

You are measuring "distance" wrong.

Draw a STRAIGHT line to connect the two!

That is a STRAIGHT line.

IN THIS PARTICULAR GEOMETRY

[raw_thought]

You wrote,", in this particular geometry"
Sure for New York tax drivers but that is still not a square circle. I can come up with all sorts of arbitrary rules. For example I can define a continuous straight line as one that is not straight.

[raw_thought]

OK I disagree but lets assume that that is an example of a square circle in another arbitrary geometry. That is still not a square circle in normal nonarbitrary geometry.

[raw_thought]

OK I live 80.000 miles from New York city, whatever.

[Skepdick]

You wrote,", in this particular geometry"
Sure for New York tax drivers but that is still not a square circle. I can come up with all sorts of arbitrary rules. For example I can define a continuous straight line as one that is not straight.

Exactly.

So which geometry do you have in mind (literally, in YOUR mind) when you are making your claims.

Euclidian? We don't live in an Euclidian universe.

[raw_thought]

But wait I live 200,000,000,000 miles from New York city also!!!

[Skepdick]

OK I live 80.000 miles from New York city, whatever.

Is that on the surface, or if you dig a direct tunnel through Earth?

[raw_thought]

Hmm so since I live 80,000 miles from New York and also 2,000,000,000 miles from New York ( depending the geometry I am using ) that is a contradiction. So I can name any amount of miles!!!

[raw_thought]

OK I live 80.000 miles from New York city, whatever.

Is that on a surface of a sphere, or if you dig a direct tunnel through Earth?

No I took a lot of perpendicular steps. I used taxi cab geometry.

[Skepdick]

Hmm so since I live 80,000 miles from New York and also 2,000,000,000 miles from New York ( depending the geometry I am using ) that is a contradiction. So I can name any amount of miles!!!

Contradictions are open to interpretation.

Which is exactly what you are doing.

It is a straight line.
it's not a straight line.

it is a radius.
it's not a radius.

It is a contradiction.
It's not a contradiction.

Up to you.

[raw_thought]

Hmm so since I live 80,000 miles from New York and also 2,000,000,000 miles from New York ( depending the geometry I am using ) that is a contradiction. So I can name any amount of miles!!!

Contradictions are open to interpretation.

Which is exactly what you are doing.

It is a straight line.
it's not a straight line.

it is a radius.
it's not a radius.

It is a contradiction.
It's not a contradiction.

Up to you.

No, you are the one that calls perpendicular steps a straight line.

[Skepdick]

No, you are the one that calls perpendicular steps a straight line.

You are the one who doesn't understand the meaning of "straight" in non-Euclidian geometries.

[raw_thought]

As you say, in this particular geometry ( taxi cab geometry ) . In taxi cab geometry a straight line is one full of perpendicular steps. I do not accept that definition . Sure, if you change the definition of "straight" you can say anything without contradiction. Besides you are conflating one geometry with another. Sure if I have one geometry that defines a straight line as the shortest possible distance between 2 points and another that defines "straight line " as the longest distance between 2 points they will conflict with each other. But that is not a contradiction. "Blanco" is the Spanish word for "white" but to say that it is a contradiction because they are different is silly.

[Skepdick]

As you say, in this particular geometry ( taxi cab geometry ) . In taxi cab geometry a straight line is one full of perpendicular steps. I do not accept that definition . Sure, if you change the definition of "straight" you can say anything without contradiction. Besides you are conflating one geometry with another. Sure if I have one geometry that defines a straight line as the shortest possible distance between 2 points and another that defines "straight line " as the longest distance between 2 points they will conflict with each other. But that is not a contradiction. "Blanco" is the Spanish word for "white" but to say that it is a contradiction because they are different is silly.

So you are agreeing then, that the "law" of non-contradiction is a stupid law in a universe in which contradictions are impossible?

It's like the law of non-unicorns.

yes,And yes true contradictions do not exist.

Truth or falsity is irrelevant.

Contradictions don't exist. Full stop.

Show me one.

[raw_thought]

Next you will say that the earth is not flat because Euclidian geometry is only one particular geometry. Sure, if you invent another particular geometry where "straight" is defined as the longest possible distance between 2 points, perhaps the earth is flat. But even then that is not a contradiction. You are conflating 2 different geometries and positing a contradiction that does not exist.