P=P is a Contradiction

What is the basis for reason? And mathematics?

Moderators: AMod, iMod

raw_thought
Posts: 1777
Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:16 pm
Location: trapped inside a hominid skull

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Post by raw_thought »

Good grief. that is not a square circle.
Skepdick
Posts: 16022
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:16 am

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Post by Skepdick »

raw_thought wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:33 pm Good grief. that is not a square circle.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Skepdick wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:30 pm Next thing you are going to tell me "that's not a square circle".
Logically/Mathematically that is a square circle.

If you meant something different, explain your meaning.
raw_thought
Posts: 1777
Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:16 pm
Location: trapped inside a hominid skull

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Post by raw_thought »

Show me a square that has only one distance for its radius.
Skepdick
Posts: 16022
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:16 am

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Post by Skepdick »

raw_thought wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:39 pm Show me a square that has only one distance for its radius.
I did!!!!!!!

Read the wikipedia article. Even the specific meaning of "distance" is defined for you.
Last edited by Skepdick on Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
raw_thought
Posts: 1777
Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:16 pm
Location: trapped inside a hominid skull

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Post by raw_thought »

By definition a circle has only one numerical value for its radius. Squares have different distances from its center.
Skepdick
Posts: 16022
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:16 am

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Post by Skepdick »

raw_thought wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:41 pm By definition a circle has only one numerical value for its radius. Squares have different distances from its center.
By whose definition?
By which definition of "distance" ?
raw_thought
Posts: 1777
Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:16 pm
Location: trapped inside a hominid skull

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Post by raw_thought »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicab_g ... Circle.svg
Note that the diagonal "radius" is different from the vertical and horizonal "radius".
Skepdick
Posts: 16022
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:16 am

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Post by Skepdick »

raw_thought wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:44 pm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicab_g ... Circle.svg
Note that the diagonal "radius" is different from the vertical and horizonal "radius".
No it isn't. you are measuring "distance" wrong.
raw_thought
Posts: 1777
Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:16 pm
Location: trapped inside a hominid skull

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Post by raw_thought »

Definitions from all of math.
raw_thought
Posts: 1777
Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:16 pm
Location: trapped inside a hominid skull

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Post by raw_thought »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicab_g ... Circle.svg
Note that the up and down lengths are greater then the distance of the diagonal lines.
Skepdick
Posts: 16022
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:16 am

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Post by Skepdick »

raw_thought wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:45 pm Definitions from all of math.
Math has many different definitions of "distance".

Which one are you using?
Skepdick
Posts: 16022
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:16 am

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Post by Skepdick »

raw_thought wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:47 pm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicab_g ... Circle.svg
Note that the up and down lengths are greater then the distance of the diagonal lines.
No. They are not.

They are identical. You are MEASURING "distance" using the wrong definition.
raw_thought
Posts: 1777
Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:16 pm
Location: trapped inside a hominid skull

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Post by raw_thought »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicab_g ... Circle.svg
look at the top picture. The dot at the top is 2 from the center. The diagonal dot is 1 unit from the center.
Skepdick
Posts: 16022
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:16 am

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Post by Skepdick »

raw_thought wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:50 pm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicab_g ... Circle.svg
look at the top picture. The dot at the top is 2 from the center. The diagonal dot is 1 unit from the center.
Any dot on the circumference is 1 unit from the center!!!!

That's why it's a circle.

YOU ARE USING THE WRONG UNIT.

Read this paragraph and understand it.
In taxicab geometry, distance is determined by a different metric than in Euclidean geometry, and the shape of circles changes as well.
raw_thought
Posts: 1777
Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:16 pm
Location: trapped inside a hominid skull

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Post by raw_thought »

I am using the units in the picture. Its 2 units from the top to the center and only one unit diagonally.
Post Reply