Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:36 pm
And you expect this from who???
Me? Doesn't matter to you where I get my information.
Who do you get yours from?
Oh c'mon Henry... tell us where you get all of your accurate and truthful information?
I prefer PBS news once in awhile, and I take everything with a grain of salt. I don't use or listen to social media, nor am I on any bandwagons. I try to determine what makes sense, based on logic and circumstances.
You on the other hand, distribute a lot of information... so, you must be confident about your sources, yes? Surely you wouldn't be spreading one-sided misinformation just because it jerks you off and you're content to be stupid about it.
Oh c'mon Henry... tell us where you get all of your accurate and truthful information?
even a casual review of any of the beer virus threads answers that question.
again: where I get my info shouldn't matter to you
if salty pbs is your cup, then go with that
personally: I think pbs is swill but that's just me
my point in this thread is you ought to be decidin' for you what your response to beer virus is, not unchecked employees
So he's not afraid of death but he's afraid of losing some freedom of movement?
anyone not properly outraged by bein' jailed when he's done nuthin' wrong is dead already
make no mistake: lockdowns are imprisonments
All this over a CDC lockdown. And we're not in a lockdown situation anymore. It was a temporary measure. Now people are simply being asked to wear masks--which you seem to object to as well. Is wearing a mask the same as being imprisoned?
gary, if you wanna abide by what elected folks tell you do to do: that's fine by me
me, I won't...I'll listen to suggestions from 'em but I won't be ordered about by 'em
What do you care? If you choose to swallow the popular view that we're all going to die unless we all wear a half-bra on our face and never hug anyone we love, those who choose not to be told what to wear, what to do, and where to go (it used to be called freedom) don't care if you want to dress up like a zombie and freak out because someone else might touch you (which used to be called paranoia).
It's a disease. Lot's of people will get it. Most will not even be sick and some will die (bad luck). Be afraid of it as much as you like and do whatever you believe you must do to protect yourself. I hope you don't get it (and you probably won't). Just don't presume to force those who do not suffer from your personal phobias to sacrifice their lives to your fears.
If you don't believe that it's a hoax designed to "control the population" then it doesn't apply to you. So why do YOU care?
What doesn't apply to me? I can't observe that idiots are calling anyone who doesn't swallow the Corona Virus Cool Aid a conspiracy theorist? It neither surprises me or bothers me that they do, but it is a bit entertaining (though probably impolite) to laugh at the idiot's antics.
RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:24 pm What do you care? If you choose to swallow the popular view that we're all going to die unless we all wear a half-bra on our face and never hug anyone we love, those who choose not to be told what to wear, what to do, and where to go (it used to be called freedom) don't care if you want to dress up like a zombie and freak out because someone else might touch you (which used to be called paranoia).
It's a disease. Lot's of people will get it. Most will not even be sick and some will die (bad luck). Be afraid of it as much as you like and do whatever you believe you must do to protect yourself. I hope you don't get it (and you probably won't). Just don't presume to force those who do not suffer from your personal phobias to sacrifice their lives to your fears.
If you don't believe that it's a hoax designed to "control the population" then it doesn't apply to you. So why do YOU care?
What doesn't apply to me? I can't observe that idiots are calling anyone who doesn't swallow the Corona Virus Cool Aid a conspiracy theorist? It neither surprises me or bothers me that they do, but it is a bit entertaining (though probably impolite) to laugh at the idiot's antics.
I'm only calling people who are conspiracy theorists, conspiracy theorists. If you don't think the virus scare is a hoax being perpetrated by the government to control people, then I'm not calling you anything.
henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:01 pmThere are some of us who are likely to die were they to become infected - me for one.
I'm 57...I supposedly fall into that category
my point: likelihood ain't certainty
We really are living in the age of paranoia. I've never seen such widespread terror and fear in adults. Most people today have never faced anything really dangerous or difficult and are just not equipped to live in this dangerous scary world. I've face death four times in my life, threatened by nature, other men, and disease. I'm eighty. I'm disgusted to have to live among these wimps for whom the world is supposed come to stop because they might get a bad cold or die. I cannot even feel sorry for them.
If you don't mind dying, then I don't understand why you mind the lockdown (EDIT or the provision to wear masks or whatever it is that you object to regarding the CDC precautions)?
You make stuff up. I didn't say I don't mind dying, I just have no fear of it and my choices are not determine by an irational fear of death. There are much worse things than dying. I also never mentioned any CDC, "precautions," which have no bearing on me. I ignore them until and if they actually become the law, then I'll have to take other measures.
I have no objection to others taking all the precautions they like and never tell others how to live their lives. It's all absurd, and we are still free for the moment in this country to express our view of things. I certainly don't mind all those who judge my views and practices as some kind of evil, but they would all like to shut me up? Why?
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RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:52 pm
For clarity's sake: Sculptor wrote...There are some of us who are likely to die were they to become infected - me for one....not me.
Me: I ain't afraid of a nasty cold.
Yes, I know, Henry. I was sharing my view of the whole thing with you because I doubt anyone else would understand it. On this issue we totally agree.
RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:52 pm
We really are living in the age of paranoia. I've never seen such widespread terror and fear in adults. Most people today have never faced anything really dangerous or difficult and are just not equipped to live in this dangerous scary world. I've face death four times in my life, threatened by nature, other men, and disease. I'm eighty. I'm disgusted to have to live among these wimps for whom the world is supposed come to stop because they might get a bad cold or die. I cannot even feel sorry for them.
If you don't mind dying, then I don't understand why you mind the lockdown (EDIT or the provision to wear masks or whatever it is that you object to regarding the CDC precautions)?
You make stuff up. I didn't say I don't mind dying, I just have no fear of it and my choices are not determine by an irational fear of death. There are much worse things than dying. I also never mentioned any CDC, "precautions," which have no bearing on me. I ignore them until and if they actually become the law, then I'll have take other measures.
I have no objection to others taking all the precautions they like and never tell others how to live their lives. It's all absurd, and we are still free for the moment in this country to express are view of things. I certainly don't mind all those who judge my views and practices as some kind of evil, but they would all like to shut me up? Why?
Who is trying to shut you up and how are they doing it?
anyone not properly outraged by bein' jailed when he's done nuthin' wrong is dead already
make no mistake: lockdowns are imprisonments
All this over a CDC lockdown. And we're not in a lockdown situation anymore. It was a temporary measure. Now people are simply being asked to wear masks--which you seem to object to as well. Is wearing a mask the same as being imprisoned?
gary, if you wanna abide by what elected folks tell you do to do: that's fine by me
me, I won't...I'll listen to suggestions from 'em but I won't be ordered about by 'em
So you don't think anyone should follow the CDC guidelines, recommendations or whatever? Or are you somehow special?
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:34 am
I'm only calling people who are conspiracy theorists, conspiracy theorists. If you don't think the virus scare is a hoax being perpetrated by the government to control people, then I'm not calling you anything.
There is a virus called Covid, and it is about as infectious as some flu, but not as virulent as the flu of the last two years. [It's the best I can discover based on data from Johns Hopkins and the The New England Journal of Medicine, and Tufts University School of Medicine research.] It is being used by government to control people. Businesses are forced not to open, people are not allowed to shop without wearing government mandated facial half-bras, and others are not allowed, in many places, to interact normally.
I know you aren't calling me anything, Gary, but I couldn't care less if you or anybody else does.
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:34 am
I'm only calling people who are conspiracy theorists, conspiracy theorists. If you don't think the virus scare is a hoax being perpetrated by the government to control people, then I'm not calling you anything.
There is a virus called Covid, and it is about as infectious as some flu, but not as virulent as the flu of the last two years. [It's the best I can discover based on data from Johns Hopkins and the The New England Journal of Medicine, and Tufts University School of Medicine research.] It is being used by government to control people. Businesses are forced not to open, people are not allowed to shop without wearing government mandated facial half-bras, and others are not allowed, in many places, to interact normally.
Fair enough. What sinister ends this is being done for I guess I'll just have to be ignorant of.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:49 pm
... or why you seem so combative, but what the fuck ever.
I'm sorry if I offended your tender sensibilities. I could have given some wishy-washy nice answer, I suppose, but mistakenly thought you'd appreciate frankness. I'll know better next time.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:49 pm
I was asking simple questions that were worthy of consideration.
Well it was a little more than that. Your questions pertained to my statement:
It's a disease. Lot's of people will get it. Most will not even be sick and some will die (bad luck). Be afraid of it as much as you like and do whatever you believe you must do to protect yourself. I hope you don't get it (and you probably won't). Just don't presume to force those who do not suffer from your personal phobias to sacrifice their lives to your fears.
And your first question was:
What do you suggest be done about the overflowing hospitals and medical supply shortages because too many people are needing treatment all at once?
Which presumes I have some obligation to even think about a supposed problem that has nothing to do with me.
No it doesn't. You are making presumptions. It was a question about another angle of the situation. You said what you said, and then I asked in essence: what about this other angle? I thought it would be interesting to hear your balanced perspective, instead of just your one-sided rant. You're surely more than that, no?
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:49 pm
I'm not advocating for anything... except maybe it would be a good idea for people who think this is a hoax to go visit a hospital and volunteer.
You certainly fooled me. I could have sworn you were advocating something when you wrote:
What are we supposed to do when our infrastructure cannot support the populations that rely on it?
It's just another question. In what way am I advocating anything?
Maybe your presumptions are getting in the way of seeing other angles?
The virus is real because it was planned.Psychological rationalisation has been strategically implemented for the next generation to become biological robotic servants to serve the devil.
Any one with half a brain cell knows what's happening here.
The awakened ones will not fear, for they are already dead and living their best life in love and light.
The evil ones will not know where to point their guns at the dead.
