Condition of women is a measure of morality

[Flora]

The way women is, her physical weakness in comparison to men; her psychology or the way she thinks and behave; her beauty because of which men want to control her, seems to me like as if God/nature created her this way among humans with intention to see how moral and intelligent a men in any particular society or community is. Even if we remove God/nature and "intention" from this, condition of women as a measure of morality seems perfect to me.

There are many qualities in women which seems to demand control of emotions and thoughts from men. Better the morality and intelligence in men, better will be conditions of women in a society, and vice versa.

So, is it right to say if the condition of women is bad in society, then the men in society are generally immoral and lack intelligence?

[Sculptor]

Also pets and other animals

[Lacewing]

So, is it right to say if the condition of women is bad in society, then the men in society are generally immoral and lack intelligence?

Sounds good!

[Flora]

Also pets and other animals

Well, I don't think personality of pets and animals force human to control them, beat them, subjugate them, sexually and emotionally torture, like that of women. Women have greater ability to test men's and society's morality and intelligence.

I am sorry, but are you comparing women with animals and pets?

[Flora]

So, is it right to say if the condition of women is bad in society, then the men in society are generally immoral and lack intelligence?

Sounds good!

Not only it sounds good, but if you observe the different societies and ethnic groups around the world it will seem true as well.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

So, is it right to say if the condition of women is bad in society, then the men in society are generally immoral and lack intelligence?

Oh dear, you will have the PC thought police down on you like a ton of bricks.

Every theocratic society treats women badly--yet they are the ones that consider themselves to be the most 'moral'. As for a lack of intelligence in individuals I don't believe this to be the case, or even that it's possible for it to be the case. Humans will generally behave in a way that is looked on as acceptable by the society in which they live.
Chinese wet food markets inflict horrors on animals that wouldn't be tolerated in other societies. Does this mean that they are all sadistic psychopaths? I don't think so. It's a reflection of the society in which they live, and the fact that those with the power to change laws have chosen not to--and therefore condone it. Humans need laws to control their behaviour, but it is also up to the people to bring about the law changes they want and to have the kind of govt. they want.

[Sculptor]

Also pets and other animals

Well, I don't think personality of pets and animals force human to control them, beat them, subjugate them, sexually and emotionally torture, like that of women. Women have greater ability to test men's and society's morality and intelligence.

I am sorry, but are you comparing women with animals and pets?

But it is as true of them as anything else. All the things you list have been perpetrated on them. Actually those thing have also been perpetrated on men too. Also let us not forget the awful condition of children as little as 150 years ago in the UK as still in many places all over the world.
A culture that treats its dogs well most often has good regard for humans too.

[Impenitent]

The way women is, her physical weakness in comparison to men; her psychology or the way she thinks and behave; her beauty because of which men want to control her, seems to me like as if God/nature created her this way among humans with intention to see how moral and intelligent a men in any particular society or community is. Even if we remove God/nature and "intention" from this, condition of women as a measure of morality seems perfect to me.

There are many qualities in women which seems to demand control of emotions and thoughts from men. Better the morality and intelligence in men, better will be conditions of women in a society, and vice versa.

So, is it right to say if the condition of women is bad in society, then the men in society are generally immoral and lack intelligence?

no, if the condition of women is bad in a society, the women's lack of power to "demand control of emotions and thoughts from men." is apparent...

-Imp

[Veritas Aequitas]

The way women is, her physical weakness in comparison to men; her psychology or the way she thinks and behave; her beauty because of which men want to control her, seems to me like as if God/nature created her this way among humans with intention to see how moral and intelligent a men in any particular society or community is. Even if we remove God/nature and "intention" from this, condition of women as a measure of morality seems perfect to me.

There are many qualities in women which seems to demand control of emotions and thoughts from men. Better the morality and intelligence in men, better will be conditions of women in a society, and vice versa.

So, is it right to say if the condition of women is bad in society, then the men in society are generally immoral and lack intelligence?

Morality-proper is not gender specific.
Morality is specific to all humans within the human species.

Thus the better the moral competence and wisdom [not intelligence] in the average humans, the better will be the conditions for humans [men, obviously women, babies, children, etc].
Misogynism - comprising a wide set of negative acts to women, albeit overlaps with morality, is not specifically, solely and directly a moral issue.

Morality in general is the management of Good over Evil [to be defined precisely].
With Hitler - an example of the worst evil and immorality - he was not negatively bias to women in the gas chambers.

[Belinda]

So, is it right to say if the condition of women is bad in society, then the men in society are generally immoral and lack intelligence?

Oh dear, you will have the PC thought police down on you like a ton of bricks.

Every theocratic society treats women badly--yet they are the ones that consider themselves to be the most 'moral'. As for a lack of intelligence in individuals I don't believe this to be the case, or even that it's possible for it to be the case. Humans will generally behave in a way that is looked on as acceptable by the society in which they live.
Chinese wet food markets inflict horrors on animals that wouldn't be tolerated in other societies. Does this mean that they are all sadistic psychopaths? I don't think so. It's a reflection of the society in which they live, and the fact that those with the power to change laws have chosen not to--and therefore condone it. Humans need laws to control their behaviour, but it is also up to the people to bring about the law changes they want and to have the kind of govt. they want.

Yes, however an oppressed people need a charismatic leader to inspire courage and fortitude to deal with their oppressors.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

So, is it right to say if the condition of women is bad in society, then the men in society are generally immoral and lack intelligence?

Oh dear, you will have the PC thought police down on you like a ton of bricks.

Every theocratic society treats women badly--yet they are the ones that consider themselves to be the most 'moral'. As for a lack of intelligence in individuals I don't believe this to be the case, or even that it's possible for it to be the case. Humans will generally behave in a way that is looked on as acceptable by the society in which they live.
Chinese wet food markets inflict horrors on animals that wouldn't be tolerated in other societies. Does this mean that they are all sadistic psychopaths? I don't think so. It's a reflection of the society in which they live, and the fact that those with the power to change laws have chosen not to--and therefore condone it. Humans need laws to control their behaviour, but it is also up to the people to bring about the law changes they want and to have the kind of govt. they want.

Yes, however an oppressed people need a charismatic leader to inspire courage and fortitude to deal with their oppressors.

Indeed, because 'charismatic leaders' have such a good track record when it comes to human rights.....

[Belinda]

Oh dear, you will have the PC thought police down on you like a ton of bricks.

Every theocratic society treats women badly--yet they are the ones that consider themselves to be the most 'moral'. As for a lack of intelligence in individuals I don't believe this to be the case, or even that it's possible for it to be the case. Humans will generally behave in a way that is looked on as acceptable by the society in which they live.
Chinese wet food markets inflict horrors on animals that wouldn't be tolerated in other societies. Does this mean that they are all sadistic psychopaths? I don't think so. It's a reflection of the society in which they live, and the fact that those with the power to change laws have chosen not to--and therefore condone it. Humans need laws to control their behaviour, but it is also up to the people to bring about the law changes they want and to have the kind of govt. they want.

Yes, however an oppressed people need a charismatic leader to inspire courage and fortitude to deal with their oppressors.

Indeed, because 'charismatic leaders' have such a good track record when it comes to human rights.....

The sans culottes in France were not very nice either

[Flora]

So, is it right to say if the condition of women is bad in society, then the men in society are generally immoral and lack intelligence?

As for a lack of intelligence in individuals I don't believe this to be the case, or even that it's possible for it to be the case.

Well, we know beauty has positive impact on mind or intelligence. This is why beautiful nature calm our mind and provoke creativity in us. This happens only with beautiful nature, not harsh nature. Point being, beauty have positive impact on intelligence. So, hiding it, or forcing women to hide it, have negative impact on mind.

There are many such psychological influence relating to women specifically, and generally beauty, sex, physical weakness, tone of voice etc., which seems to control human conditions. What that collectively means is, nature itself seem to enforce morality, and produce cause and effects of human deeds. If you do right, it will have good effects, but if you do wrong, it will have bad effects.

Freeing is same as getting freedom. Imprisoning someone physically is same as imprisoning ourselves mentally. When you are mentally imprisoned, you cannot progress intellectually, at least as society if not individually. Imprisoned mind cannot intellectually thrive. Progressing intellectually require freedom of thoughts.

There are many relation has been made by great people, between women and intelligence, like geniuses are generally womanizers, or those men who don't have any interest in women have some psychological disorder, or are mad.

[Flora]

Also pets and other animals

Well, I don't think personality of pets and animals force human to control them, beat them, subjugate them, sexually and emotionally torture, like that of women. Women have greater ability to test men's and society's morality and intelligence.

I am sorry, but are you comparing women with animals and pets?

But it is as true of them as anything else. All the things you list have been perpetrated on them. Actually those thing have also been perpetrated on men too. Also let us not forget the awful condition of children as little as 150 years ago in the UK as still in many places all over the world.
A culture that treats its dogs well most often has good regard for humans too.

Crimes or immorality is perpetrated against women socially, like an organized crime. Men are not subjected to any such thing, as far as I can think.

So, cruelty against animals might influence an individual's mind and can tell us about his own set of morality and his mental setup, but it doesn't tell us about society.

I agree, that a culture that treats it's dogs might have good regards for human too.

[Flora]

There are many qualities in women which seems to demand control of emotions and thoughts from men. Better the morality and intelligence in men, better will be conditions of women in a society, and vice versa.

So, is it right to say if the condition of women is bad in society, then the men in society are generally immoral and lack intelligence?

no, if the condition of women is bad in a society, the women's lack of power to "demand control of emotions and thoughts from men." is apparent...

-Imp

Morality is about doing things right voluntarily, deliberately, not by use force. Of course, women can demand control of emotions and thoughts from men peacefully, not by use of physical force. That is why condition of women is measure of morality, I think.