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There are no borders anywhere in reality- - certainly none within the human body or the body of the whole universe.

The transparency of Consciousness. See that you are Consciousness. Consciousness is the true body, the true container of all things and everything is made out of it's own transparent, luminous substance.

If you want to talk about borders, you are dreaming. And within the dream you are born, and that which is born will die.

The day of your birth was the same day you were sentenced to death.

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So, I have had a fairly heavy chest issue for the last two days - 48 hrs. 72 hrs ago I sucked a fly down into my windpipe when I was walking my dog. So good ol' 'God' in my POV has things at 60/40 that I am infected - especially all the efforts I went to, to get a big bag of rice for mum in an Indian shop packed with Indians where one sneezed in front of me (about 6 days ago) - never-mind ....or that my lungs had an issue with the fly.

To be quite frank, IT IS ALL BOLLOCKS.

Since I was as young as I can remember I used to get cold-sores - herpes is it? - truly I don't give a fuk to check..

At 11 yrs old - me and all my class at my primary school were booked to go to France. I missed it because I had an appendicitis. When the class returned on the ship, my friends parents took me to meet everyone and pick up their kids. It would have been great, were it not for the fact that I had the worst case of cold-sores I had ever had. My entire lips were choked up with the disgusting scourge. It felt far worse than it looked.

Anyway, later in life, whenever I had the squigly tickling feeling of an impending cold-sore - it's like I could think about that feeling and all of a sudden I would feel - I don't know - anti-bodies fighting against it - I could actually feel them fighting and then my lips would quell to normal. TRULY - even now in the rare instance I feel a cold-sore coming on - BANG - I just need to think a certain way about the PRESENCE of the germ in me - and vamoosh - the cold-sore attempt is thwarted.

So back to the possibility of Covid-19 causing my chest shit. Well, here now - this is a bit different. Do I think a fly caused it or covid-19 - ----- covid 19. Am I going to get checked, sure if it gets really fucked up.

I'm truly not sure why I am making this post. :)

...thing is...mmm...a bit of faith can go along way. So today my lungs felt rather bad - I was coughing up some phlegm - but not much.

Here's the ENTIRE reason for the post:- IF i think of the point of my body that my lungs exist in and think about ATTACKING with those 'anti-bodies' that I do with my cold-sore issue years ago - then I can feel my lungs getting improved, within a few minutes - my lungs feel fine again! - and they have been fine ALL night - but just now - a bit weezy again.

To be quite frank AGAIN ----, I THINK THIS IS ALL BOLLOCKS.

It is ONLY because I know (for U lot - attempt to have some faith in this and STOP with seeing it as deluded and irrational) what God did via Christ.

Believe in it, be worthy of it, and concentrate on those lungs with a healing attack thought!

...on the do.u.bt side tho - I just saw a report that the symptoms are very random.

BEFORE I forget.
- I asked God to 'erase' the corona virus - since that was the word 'it' used when removing the pain from my arm.
- unfortunately the system requires the removal of ALL crucifix symbology from the 'church' of scientology first.

As some kunts say 'don't shoot the messenger' others say - 'get a fucking vaccine.'
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So, this is the new normal, eh? Social distancing, if carried past the current situation, will wreak havoc on the propagation of the human race.
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attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:04 pm So, I have had a fairly heavy chest issue for the last two days - 48 hrs. 72 hrs ago I sucked a fly down into my windpipe when I was walking my dog. So good ol' 'God' in my POV has things at 60/40 that I am infected - especially all the efforts I went to, to get a big bag of rice for mum in an Indian shop packed with Indians where one sneezed in front of me (about 6 days ago) - never-mind ....or that my lungs had an issue with the fly.

To be quite frank, IT IS ALL BOLLOCKS.

Since I was as young as I can remember I used to get cold-sores - herpes is it? - truly I don't give a fuk to check..

At 11 yrs old - me and all my class at my primary school were booked to go to France. I missed it because I had an appendicitis. When the class returned on the ship, my friends parents took me to meet everyone and pick up their kids. It would have been great, were it not for the fact that I had the worst case of cold-sores I had ever had. My entire lips were choked up with the disgusting scourge. It felt far worse than it looked.

Anyway, later in life, whenever I had the squigly tickling feeling of an impending cold-sore - it's like I could think about that feeling and all of a sudden I would feel - I don't know - anti-bodies fighting against it - I could actually feel them fighting and then my lips would quell to normal. TRULY - even now in the rare instance I feel a cold-sore coming on - BANG - I just need to think a certain way about the PRESENCE of the germ in me - and vamoosh - the cold-sore attempt is thwarted.

So back to the possibility of Covid-19 causing my chest shit. Well, here now - this is a bit different. Do I think a fly caused it or covid-19 - ----- covid 19. Am I going to get checked, sure if it gets really fucked up.

I'm truly not sure why I am making this post. :)

...thing is...mmm...a bit of faith can go along way. So today my lungs felt rather bad - I was coughing up some phlegm - but not much.

Here's the ENTIRE reason for the post:- IF i think of the point of my body that my lungs exist in and think about ATTACKING with those 'anti-bodies' that I do with my cold-sore issue years ago - then I can feel my lungs getting improved, within a few minutes - my lungs feel fine again! - and they have been fine ALL night - but just now - a bit weezy again.

To be quite frank AGAIN ----, I THINK THIS IS ALL BOLLOCKS.

It is ONLY because I know (for U lot - attempt to have some faith in this and STOP with seeing it as deluded and irrational) what God did via Christ.

Believe in it, be worthy of it, and concentrate on those lungs with a healing attack thought!

...on the do.u.bt side tho - I just saw a report that the symptoms are very random.

BEFORE I forget.
- I asked God to 'erase' the corona virus - since that was the word 'it' used when removing the pain from my arm.
- unfortunately the system requires the removal of ALL crucifix symbology from the 'church' of scientology first.

As some kunts say 'don't shoot the messenger' others say - 'get a fucking vaccine.'
Reminds me of a Dr. Who episode where a woman wrote a 'diet' book called 'think thin', where you could eat what you like but just had to tell yourself you weren't eating anything. Needless to say there were a lot of irate newly-obese women around.

But yes. It IS all bollocks. People have turned into vultures, eagerly scanning statistics reports for new cases and deaths multiple times a day. Peeping out their windows and reporting some poor sod for daring to go for a walk (which, incidentally, we are allowed to do).
And all to make sure that old people die of something else before the virus gets them. Cancer? Emphysema? Dementia? Suicide? Parkinsons? Stroke? Heart attack? Flu? Liver failure? A cold?..... Take your pick.
The price to pay for this is going to be astronomical. Child abuse and alcoholism will go through the roof. People here were stockpiling alcohol, guns and knives before the lockdown. What the f'ing f?
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:27 pm Reminds me of a Dr. Who episode where a woman wrote a 'diet' book called 'think thin', where you could eat what you like but just had to tell yourself you weren't eating anything. Needless to say there were a lot of irate newly-obese women around.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:27 pmBut yes. It IS all bollocks. People have turned into vultures, eagerly scanning statistics reports for new cases and deaths multiple times a day. Peeping out their windows and reporting some poor sod for daring to go for a walk (which, incidentally, we are allowed to do).
And all to make sure that old people die of something else before the virus gets them. Cancer? Emphysema? Dementia? Suicide? Parkinsons? Stroke? Heart attack? Flu? Liver failure? A cold?..... Take your pick.
The price to pay for this is going to be astronomical. Child abuse and alcoholism will go through the roof. People here were stockpiling alcohol, guns and knives before the lockdown. What the f'ing f?
Yes, you might have to turn in to Mad Maxine.

Let's say we screw the containment - reopen all businesses and run the country BAU. Eventually the majority of the population would get it.

Problem is the AMOUNT of people that would require ventilator support to survive - not just the old - 20-50 year olds are well in the mix - so a huge amount of younger people will be dying. It's simply the scale of it all - maybe we could go to work with a battery powered ventilator hooked up!

To be honest - I think I had it. My lungs are fine now - I stopped vaping as much as possible - that really irritated it - duh, who would have thought.

A nurse friend of mine is taking calls from home for people asking about symptoms - I said to him, what are the odds that in my entire existence on this planet I have never had a lung infection (as least that i can remember) - and now that there is a bloody pandemic where the main symptom is pneaeuaumonia I have a terrible lung infection, short of breath in just walking the dog - at one point thinking I might end up on a ventilator! ODDS are I had the virus! - no temperature issue tho. On the flip side - I choked on a fly! - maybe that went into my lungs and caused an infection. My friend said probably the latter (even tho he doubts it went into my lungs)
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attofishpi wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:38 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:27 pm Reminds me of a Dr. Who episode where a woman wrote a 'diet' book called 'think thin', where you could eat what you like but just had to tell yourself you weren't eating anything. Needless to say there were a lot of irate newly-obese women around.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:27 pmBut yes. It IS all bollocks. People have turned into vultures, eagerly scanning statistics reports for new cases and deaths multiple times a day. Peeping out their windows and reporting some poor sod for daring to go for a walk (which, incidentally, we are allowed to do).
And all to make sure that old people die of something else before the virus gets them. Cancer? Emphysema? Dementia? Suicide? Parkinsons? Stroke? Heart attack? Flu? Liver failure? A cold?..... Take your pick.
The price to pay for this is going to be astronomical. Child abuse and alcoholism will go through the roof. People here were stockpiling alcohol, guns and knives before the lockdown. What the f'ing f?
Yes, you might have to turn in to Mad Maxine.

Let's say we screw the containment - reopen all businesses and run the country BAU. Eventually the majority of the population would get it.

Problem is the AMOUNT of people that would require ventilator support to survive - not just the old - 20-50 year olds are well in the mix - so a huge amount of younger people will be dying. It's simply the scale of it all - maybe we could go to work with a battery powered ventilator hooked up!

To be honest - I think I had it. My lungs are fine now - I stopped vaping as much as possible - that really irritated it - duh, who would have thought.

A nurse friend of mine is taking calls from home for people asking about symptoms - I said to him, what are the odds that in my entire existence on this planet I have never had a lung infection (as least that i can remember) - and now that there is a bloody pandemic where the main symptom is pneaeuaumonia I have a terrible lung infection, short of breath in just walking the dog - at one point thinking I might end up on a ventilator! ODDS are I had the virus! - no temperature issue tho. On the flip side - I choked on a fly! - maybe that went into my lungs and caused an infection. My friend said probably the latter (even tho he doubts it went into my lungs)
Yes, there's very little detail in the statsitics. Perhaps it's deliberate so that people don't get blase about it. How do we know the 50 year olds didn't smoke 3 packs a day, or have cancer, or emphysema, or was morbidly obese.....? The earliest Chinese statistics gave the clearest indicators of how high the risk was for different age groups. Unfortunately getting it doesn't seem to make people immune.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:29 amYes, there's very little detail in the statsitics. Perhaps it's deliberate so that people don't get blase about it. How do we know the 50 year olds didn't smoke 3 packs a day, or have cancer, or emphysema, or was morbidly obese.....? The earliest Chinese statistics gave the clearest indicators of how high the risk was for different age groups. Unfortunately getting it doesn't seem to make people immune.
Wait for the riots to begin.
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attofishpi wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:23 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:29 amYes, there's very little detail in the statsitics. Perhaps it's deliberate so that people don't get blase about it. How do we know the 50 year olds didn't smoke 3 packs a day, or have cancer, or emphysema, or was morbidly obese.....? The earliest Chinese statistics gave the clearest indicators of how high the risk was for different age groups. Unfortunately getting it doesn't seem to make people immune.
Wait for the riots to begin.
Not here. Everyone is being really nice and polite. We aren't feral Aussies you know 8)
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:48 am
attofishpi wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:23 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:29 amYes, there's very little detail in the statsitics. Perhaps it's deliberate so that people don't get blase about it. How do we know the 50 year olds didn't smoke 3 packs a day, or have cancer, or emphysema, or was morbidly obese.....? The earliest Chinese statistics gave the clearest indicators of how high the risk was for different age groups. Unfortunately getting it doesn't seem to make people immune.
Wait for the riots to begin.
Not here. Everyone is being really nice and polite. We aren't feral Aussies you know 8)

Nah ya feral fruit. I wasn't talking about around this neck of the woods.
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I don't know how it is for you guys in other countries, but in mine I can't even go for a jog without being afraid of getting a big fine. The government gave a Millitary Ordinance that says you are allowed physical exercise "close to home" but failed to specify what close to home actually means. It could be 500 meters or 5 km. Nobody knows.
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Spyrith wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:15 am I don't know how it is for you guys in other countries, but in mine I can't even go for a jog without being afraid of getting a big fine.
Why be afraid?...when all you have to do is stick to the rules imposed by your government, who incidentally, are elected by you, and are formed to protect you in troubled times. Just as your parents protected you as a child, the government is the continuation of this parenting protection. We are all a part and 100% reliant on the same one human system that is absolutely necessary in order that we survive as a human speices, and that system must be protected. And no single one of us rich or poor is immune from it while they are reliant on it. If one flouts the law imposed, that is seen as like a weak link in the chain. It does not make for a proper functioning system.

Think of it this way.. when someone is stopped from being able to perform their usual daily lifestyle activities, brought down by some awful flu virus so bad that you are too weak and poorly to even get out of your bed. What would be the first and proper thing to do would be to isolate yourself off completely until you are better. Well that action is what needs to happen when entire countries get sick, they too have to isolate until they are better.

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Spyrith wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:15 am I don't know how it is for you guys in other countries, but in mine I can't even go for a jog without being afraid of getting a big fine. The government gave a Millitary Ordinance that says you are allowed physical exercise "close to home" but failed to specify what close to home actually means. It could be 500 meters or 5 km. Nobody knows.
The trouble with draconian laws is that those that think they might be a good idea tend to assume that the police are sensible and nice.
It's only when you have to confront the usual run of the mill fascist in a police uniform that thinks get bad.
The police have excuse enough to be arseholes, this state of exception is bad news for minorities and misfits.

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QED; "dontaskme's" comment above. A lack of imagination and a false impression of the police.
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attofishpi wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:38 am A nurse friend of mine is taking calls from home for people asking about symptoms - I said to him, what are the odds that in my entire existence on this planet I have never had a lung infection (as least that i can remember) - and now that there is a bloody pandemic where the main symptom is pneaeuaumonia I have a terrible lung infection, short of breath in just walking the dog - at one point thinking I might end up on a ventilator! ODDS are I had the virus! - no temperature issue tho. On the flip side - I choked on a fly! - maybe that went into my lungs and caused an infection. My friend said probably the latter (even tho he doubts it went into my lungs)
The odds are that you have had A virus or a bacterial infection due to a weakness caused by Vaping. Without a temperature you've probably not had Covid 19.

There is less known about the negative effects of vaping than about the corona virus, but there is an increasingly worrying number of deaths directly due to vaping and the longer term risks are unknown.
Even if you are going nicotine free, there is a long list of chemicals (effects unknown) that are added to the vape liquid in an largely unregulated industry.
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Sculptor wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:49 am
Addendum
QED; "dontaskme's" comment above. A lack of imagination and a false impression of the police.
I do not have an impression of the police. All I know is that they have a job to do, and if that means using force to protect the greater good, then force is inevitable. Any one who resists that force by thinking the police are just being assholes, are in fact just being an asshole themself. The police are just doing their job that they have been trained to do.

So stop projecting your utter bullshite onto me.
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