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gaffo wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:42 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:13 am
gaffo wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:58 am

he knew - as i did reading your post. you had no need to reply to such a petty post sir.
You're right. I find him so funny sometimes; but I shouldn't provoke him. Fair enough. Culpa mea.
question if i may. why do you find him "funny"
Two reasons.

First, his arguments aren't very logical at all. Secondly, the moment his limited ability in thinking runs out, which is very early, he burst into fits of the most elaborate and base insulting, as if that's supposed to add some wisdom or wit to the mix. It's very easy to get him to do it.

The funny bit is this: he's so provokable, it's like watching a kindergartener burst into the room, yell "You're not the boss of me," and promptly lose all bladder control in front of scandalized onlookers. And you can get him to do it over and over again.

But you're right: I shouldn't.
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gaffo wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:46 am BTW Hows the weather in Toronto?

it was 95F here yesterday - thats 37?C for you Canucks.
Or is it Mexico City? Or is it Vancouver? Or is it Winchester? Or perhaps Nairobi?

I guess you'll never know. :D

The weather's nice.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:43 am
gaffo wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:34 am ok fine.

if Demark/etc is not Socialism, but Cube/etc is - then i do not support Socialism.
Yeah, Cuba certainly is. And it's in one heck of a disaster right now, economically. They even have a shortage of everything, including even gas. (They were shored up by places like Russia and Venezuela in times past, but now those economies have fallen into ruin, and can't keep babysitting Cuba anymore, so the economy's going down a hole). And they have zero access to ventilators, and COVID is there. It's not good...not good at all. Be very glad you don't live in Cuba right now.

I'm glad i don't live there. oh the women there are nice though, they have the Spainish hip gene. same with Puerto Ricans.

the latter should have become a State by now - there was that push in the 70's then it faded away for some reason. I just learned that they as a US Colony - via a SC ruling 80? yrs ago - do not have the right to a Trial by Jury (that SC rulling is in violation of my Constitution's 9th amendment!!!).

I find this fact (which i did not know about until last week) - i.e. the fact that US citizen born in "territories" (collonies) - are not afforded/affirmed FULL Rights that folks like me born in America Proper - though both are US citizens - have (jury of my piers if on trial.

thinking about this injustice and a SC ruling made 80 yrs ago nullifing the 9th boils my blood!
Immanuel Can wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:43 am I want to call it "Capitalism," with minor Socialized elements. Like the other countries you listed. What we've found out about Socialism, in the 20th Century, is that it's invariably authoritarian, murderous, and financially ruinous to every country where it is implemented.
well if you put it that way we are in agreement.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:51 am
gaffo wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:42 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:13 am
You're right. I find him so funny sometimes; but I shouldn't provoke him. Fair enough. Culpa mea.
question if i may. why do you find him "funny"
Two reasons.

First, his arguments aren't very logical at all. Secondly, the moment his limited ability in thinking runs out, which is very early, he burst into fits of the most elaborate and base insulting, as if that's supposed to add some wisdom or wit to the mix. It's very easy to get him to do it.

The funny bit is this: he's so provokable, it's like watching a kindergartener burst into the room, yell "You're not the boss of me," and promptly lose all bladder control in front of scandalized onlookers. And you can get him to do it over and over again.

But you're right: I shouldn't.
ok, thanks for clarifying, i have not seen him in that way, but he and tend to agree a lot so maybe that is why i've not seen it.

another question if i may:

how to you see me/my posts? like Sculptors? or not so much like?
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Immanuel Can wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:53 am
gaffo wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:46 am BTW Hows the weather in Toronto?

it was 95F here yesterday - thats 37?C for you Canucks.
Or is it Mexico City? Or is it Vancouver? Or is it Winchester? Or perhaps Nairobi?

I guess you'll never know. :D

The weather's nice.
not 1 or 3, might be 2 though. rent/housing is high in Vancouver - sadly for me, too poor to live there. but love the land of BC (and yes as an American i of course took the ferry from Port Angeles WA to Victoria (beautful city!) - twice, once as a kid with my dad in 79 and as an adult in 96 with my best friend (who is now the drunk i spoke of before - still on a mission to destroy himself ;-(.).

he and i have a "Chess date" tomorrow - he lives 8 blocks north of me - Norman Oklahoma of course - I'm just thankful he is still alive and we can play chess for 5-7 hours tomorrow - i'll show up (as i have this past year or so) with 6 beer in me to be a happy drunk, he will have had 1/2 bottle, and solidly drunk by the time i show up at 5, we'll play 4 games of chess, and he'll keep drinking until he passes out by 10, then his GF will carry him to bed and i'll walk (never drive after drinking - 20 minute walk no big deal - keeps me thin too - LOL) home.
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gaffo wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:00 am how to you see me/my posts? like Sculptors? or not so much like?
No, you're quite reasonable.

You say what you think, and you think what you want to; but you don't roar and bellow and spout abuse, like he does. And if somebody treats you with respect, you treat them with respect. So I say, "Fair enough; works for me."

He just needs to grow up a little, that's all. But you're totally right; I should be much more patient with him, and not tease him.
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gaffo wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:09 am rent/housing is high in Vancouver - sadly for me, too poor to live there.
Here's something really weird. Did you ever realize that there's a little piece of the US that is cut off from the mainland by Canada, and is really close to Vancouver? It's called "Point Roberts, Washington." It might be more affordable, because Canadians can't buy that land, and US residents don't want to cross two borders just to get to the mainland US. Check it out.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:14 am
gaffo wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:00 am how to you see me/my posts? like Sculptors? or not so much like?
No, you're quite reasonable.

You say what you think, and you think what you want to; but you don't roar and bellow and spout abuse, like he does. And if somebody treats you with respect, you treat them with respect. So I say, "Fair enough; works for me."

He just needs to grow up a little, that's all. But you're totally right; I should be much more patient with him, and not tease him.
thanks for kind reply!

and ya per your last part, knowbody (except bullies) like bullies. ;-/. I had my share - and being raised my a single mom never learned to fight (which would have stopped the bullying!) - but no, i was a pussy raised without a dad to teach me to blody the bullies nose.

but i survived into the real world and its all ok now - most of those schoolyard bullies are probably dead/in jail/ or hopfully just grew up and became nicer (i ran accross one a decade later and he seemed a lot nicer - so there is always hope).
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gaffo wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:26 am (i ran accross one a decade later and he seemed a lot nicer - so there is always hope).
Yep. Most of us grow up sometime. Good thing, too.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:22 am
gaffo wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:09 am rent/housing is high in Vancouver - sadly for me, too poor to live there.
Here's something really weird. Did you ever realize that there's a little piece of the US that is cut off from the mainland by Canada, and is really close to Vancouver? It's called "Point Roberts, Washington." It might be more affordable, because Canadians can't buy that land, and US residents don't want to cross two borders just to get to the mainland US. Check it out.
yep, in know about it - its due to the whatever (58?) parallel line, that part of BC dipped down - so is part of the US (its literally like a 2 x 2 mile part of land). I love Geography and always had a fixation about such stuff (odd stuff for an oddball like me). I'v always assumed most Americans living there have to move through the canadian border to get things down (can americans live there and work in Canada? - odd legal question interest me too) - if not, i do not see too many job opportunities in Point Roberts for americans - only other option is a maybe a restourant or two there - or more likely taking a slow and long ferry ride to work - a few hours a day - to Seatle).

Do you know about the Border dispute between US and England (the Arristook "war") - about where to draw the border of Maine with New Bruswick (1840's?) - US wanted to take their border to the St Edwards, Canada was like fuck no! - so they settled with that river (whatever the name of it is) that sep NB from Maine - what is that town up there on northside of maine? i forget (rem being in a small grocery store and two pretty girls speaking French), i drove up there from Ok on my way to Halfax back in 2011 - just to "see the land" and go where i've not been before - lovely land and folks up here - very friendly/both maineites and NB/NS ites- i felt right at home up there (unlike when i drove to Miami/Key West in 2007 (in my Yaris again - when there since never been there - rude people down there! no wish to return to florda!).

Do you know about the piece of 100 ft land just north of Palttburg NY? (drove through there on my way back to Ok - Plattburg was bit of a pit, but the folks were nice) - there is a section of land that is american, but cut off from reaching except via lake champlain northern shore (i wonder if it is privatley owned or own by the US goverment?) you Canuck better not anex it, for doing so would be an act of war.

do you know about the island dispute? betweeen CA and US? there is a rock off the coast of Maine that had a CA lighthouse in 19th century, but abandoned by ww2, when americans placed a small fort there - since abondoned. the island is in dispute now! its an international crisis! 70 going and so far its not resolved (my fantasy is to write a book about CA and US going to war over it and starting ww3, it would make an interesting theme and be historically accurate and funny............but sadly i'm no writer. oh well.

Do you know about Minisota(sp) Lake of the Woods (yep another treaty dispute dating to 1820's i think) - that why there is that "little notch" above the 58th parallel up there that is ALL AMERICA! deal with it Canuck! it about the same size as Point roberts.

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also do you know about the US Mexico agreement during pres Kenney's time? the Rio Grande's ox box kept moving around over decades - cuting off american/mexicans from america/mexico - per that agreement the bourder was separated from the river - and many Mexicans living in parts cut off from mexico were granted US citizenship. I learned about this in the El Paso historical museim, interesting stuff.
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per Point Robert's folks, I would assume it would not be legal to work in Canada and live in America while being an american (thinking about taxation problems would make it illegal). so assume most PR americans prob have gotten dual citizenship for their own piece of mind (would that work? living in America - where your home is - but work in Vancaouver (being a duel citizen) - or maybe that would be a no go and illegal?

my sister have lived in Canada for 20+ yrs, and always thought she had dual citizenship due to being married to a Canadian who gained American citizenship about 18 yr ago. but no, she said she could have (if did the paperwork and lived there for 7 yrs at least) - but never did the paperwork and lived there much longer.

so her bad, she should have done the work to become a dual citizen, america is going down the shitter by the week.

you being a member of the Commonwealth, any advice on how an American can emigrate/and eventually become a Australian or more aptly a Kiwi would be appreciated.
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gaffo wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:51 am i drove to Miami/Key West in 2007 (in my Yaris again - when there since never been there - rude people down there! no wish to return to florda!.
That's one heck of a long way to go in a Yaris. Not exactly an interstate car.

You know a lot of border disputes.

Here's one for you: Next to the US, what is the closest geographical country to Canada? France owns two tiny islands off the Canadian/American shoreline: St. Pierre, and Miquelon. So it's France.
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gaffo wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:13 amyou being a member of the Commonwealth, any advice on how an American can emigrate/and eventually become a Australian or more aptly a Kiwi would be appreciated.
I don't know much about Downunder. I'd love to go, but I've never been, and don't know what their laws are.
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Oh, off topic, but tell -1 that the Govenor General is the Supreme Commander of Canada, not its Prime Minister (ys i know it's been gradually demoted from a position of power to one of cerimony - but out of tradition, not out of legislation).

GG still rule Canada -1, per Canada legalism letter of the law - just because the GG used is power in 1917 and conscripted Canadians to fight for Britian in WW1 and you did not like it and so turned the GG from a position of power to one of cerimony (like the Ausie did), does not make it so without legislation to formerly lessen the power of the GG. as the Ausies found out when thier Queen used the Ausie GG to Fire the Australian Prime Minster in 1973!
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