Coronavirus Craziness

[Arising_uk]

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... is a deep-state ...
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You yanks will believe any old bollocks won't you.

[commonsense]

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... is a deep-state ...
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You yanks will believe any old bollocks won't you.

This is true of 49% of Americans who voted in 2016.

[Walker]

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... is a deep-state ...
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You yanks will believe any old bollocks won't you.

Curious.

Since for others you habitually associate the information in their research to not only their identity but to their world view, do you also do the same for yourself?

Or, did you just make another stupid comment.

[Arising_uk]

Curious.

Since for others you habitually associate the information in their research to not only their identity but to their world view, do you also do the same for yourself?

Or, did you just make another stupid comment.

Where is the evidence for a 'deep state'? It's just conspiracy bollocks used by venal politicians and gobbled up by Yank conspiracy kooks.

What does hold is the Cock-Up Theory.

[Arising_uk]

This is true of 49% of Americans who voted in 2016.

Personally, I think this unfair as US citizens voted for Trump for many reasons.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

So much hypocritical, typically PCwokie racism here. Are they completely un-self aware, stupid or just sociopathic phonies?
(Or all of the above?)

[Arising_uk]

To put it in perspective, half a million people die in England every year. 3 million people die in the US every year. Most people who get corona wouldn't even need hospitalising. A lot of people get no symptoms. I didn't say do nothing. Educating people about hygiene is doing something. Advising the vulnerable to avoid certain places is doing something. Working on a vaccine is doing something. Shutting down the whole planet for a very small percentage of people is way over the top.

I tend to agree with you but there is no-one really shutting down the planet just individual nations and citizens responding as they see fit, which is probably the problem.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

To put it in perspective, half a million people die in England every year. 3 million people die in the US every year. Most people who get corona wouldn't even need hospitalising. A lot of people get no symptoms. I didn't say do nothing. Educating people about hygiene is doing something. Advising the vulnerable to avoid certain places is doing something. Working on a vaccine is doing something. Shutting down the whole planet for a very small percentage of people is way over the top.

I tend to agree with you but there is no-one really shutting down the planet just individual nations and citizens responding as they see fit, which is probably the problem.

It essentially is, when borders are closing and people can't get back to their own countries. Now they are talking about a 'lockdown'. Are people going to be arrested for going for a walk? Talking to each other? We could end up with a police state.

[commonsense]

We could end up with a police state.

Utter rubbish

[vegetariantaxidermy]

We could end up with a police state.

Utter rubbish

No it's not. How are they going to enforce a 3 month lockdown then if people don't want to comply? China is already a police state so it wasn't a stretch to sacrifice all to contain the virus. Makes you wonder why it bothered since it's always trying to get its population down and isn't exactly known for its tender regard for its people.

[commonsense]

It 'might' kill 2.2 million Americans. Since it mostly targets the elderly and those with weak immune systems then how many of those would have died anyway? Is no one capable of simple logic any more?

Logically, the possible 2.2 million deaths from Coronavirus are apart from the deaths by all other causes. In other words, the 2.2 million deaths exclude those who would have died anyway. These are 2.2 million additional deaths, above and beyond any current actuarial estimates. Is that simple enough for you?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

It 'might' kill 2.2 million Americans. Since it mostly targets the elderly and those with weak immune systems then how many of those would have died anyway? Is no one capable of simple logic any more?

Logically, the possible 2.2 million deaths from Coronavirus are apart from the deaths by all other causes. In other words, the 2.2 million deaths exclude those who would have died anyway. These are 2.2 million additional deaths, above and beyond any current actuarial estimates. Is that simple enough for you?

You missed my point. Wasn't it simple enough for you?

[commonsense]

It 'might' kill 2.2 million Americans. Since it mostly targets the elderly and those with weak immune systems then how many of those would have died anyway? Is no one capable of simple logic any more?

Logically, the possible 2.2 million deaths from Coronavirus are apart from the deaths by all other causes. In other words, the 2.2 million deaths exclude those who would have died anyway. These are 2.2 million additional deaths, above and beyond any current actuarial estimates. Is that simple enough for you?

You missed my point. Wasn't it simple enough for you?

No.

[commonsense]

It 'might' kill 2.2 million Americans. Since it mostly targets the elderly and those with weak immune systems then how many of those would have died anyway? Is no one capable of simple logic any more?

Is there a hidden meaning here—one that makes a point other than that the elderly and the weak will die anyway if they don’t die from Coronavirus?

Your clear and explicit point is that out of the 2.2 million Americans who might be killed by Coronavirus, there is some portion who die of something else.

However, if someone dies of Coronavirus, they cannot be someone who dies of something other than Coronavirus.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

It 'might' kill 2.2 million Americans. Since it mostly targets the elderly and those with weak immune systems then how many of those would have died anyway? Is no one capable of simple logic any more?

Is there a hidden meaning here—one that makes a point other than that the elderly and the weak will die anyway if they don’t die from Coronavirus?

Your clear and explicit point is that out of the 2.2 million Americans who might be killed by Coronavirus, there is some portion who die of something else.

However, if someone dies of Coronavirus, they cannot be someone who dies of something other than Coronavirus.

So? I'm saying that people die all the time. Why are we taking down the entire human race for something that is essentially an 'old person's disease'?