Does Consciousness Cause Quantum Collapse?

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blighcapn
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Re: Does Consciousness Cause Quantum Collapse?

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For any reasonable scientific person, I would think Determinism is the missing part of this discussion.
Determinism says IT causes consciousness, therefore consciousness cannot affect reality in any meaningful way.
Superficially, of course humans believe in free will, but we know better, do we not?
Gary Childress
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Re: Does Consciousness Cause Quantum Collapse?

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I think Quantum Mechanics is just some weird shell game of mental gymnastics that physicists play with the public and each other. It's all about hiding secrets. In the final analysis, the Earth is just a huge hill of beings all beating up on each other for survival. Physics is nothing more than the means to beat the other guy before he beats you. All it's about is making weapons. It's kind of a shame that it's gone that way. Once upon a time, there was reason to be fascinated by the big questions and trying to answer them. But when we did, we unwittingly opened up a pandora's box and gave all the warmongers out there the means to destroy us all.

I don't think there's a God. A God (at least one that was worth half a shit) wouldn't have made such a fucked up world. Oh well. There's always computer games to pass the time. I probably ain't going to live all that long anyway.
jayjacobus
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Re: Does Consciousness Cause Quantum Collapse?

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If there is no God and you are welcome to that thought, then He won't put humpty-dumpty back together again. Maybe we won't either but it's worth a try. (and I mean all the broken and violent intents.)
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Re: Does Consciousness Cause Quantum Collapse?

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Gary Childress wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:40 am I think Quantum Mechanics is just some weird shell game of mental gymnastics that physicists play with the public and each other. It's all about hiding secrets. In the final analysis, the Earth is just a huge hill of beings all beating up on each other for survival. Physics is nothing more than the means to beat the other guy before he beats you. All it's about is making weapons. It's kind of a shame that it's gone that way. Once upon a time, there was reason to be fascinated by the big questions and trying to answer them. But when we did, we unwittingly opened up a pandora's box and gave all the warmongers out there the means to destroy us all.

I don't think there's a God. A God (at least one that was worth half a shit) wouldn't have made such a fucked up world. Oh well. There's always computer games to pass the time. I probably ain't going to live all that long anyway.
The value of the great question. One of my ancestors had the ability to express the awakening ideas that manifest as awe and wonder. His work is useless in the modern world where computer games are king. Yet to others who do not consider them the cause of destructon, they are valued around the world. Who is right? In these times all hail computer games.
AndyAkka
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Re: Does Consciousness Cause Quantum Collapse?

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Everything in this universe collectively causes quantum collapse.

At the risk of making a complete fool out of myself, I am sending you my perspective of reality I feel should be debated.

I am no physicist but this perspective seems obvious to me and so I am interested to see if it can be put to the test.

I‘d like to see if a physicist or mathematician could prove or disprove any of this perspective.

I believe this explains why the density of the universe remains the same whilst the volume increases.

Andy Akka's theory of collapsing reality:

“Every possibility that could exist, does exist until it can no longer exist.

Reality is generated by the quantam collapse of parallels creating the present.

Dark Matter I believe should be renamed potential matter. Potential Matter brakes down to form matter as entropy collectively decides what the next step in time for that matter is to be. All other potential outcomes other than from that present universal outcome are destroyed.
Just as potential energy defines the potential of matter to create kinetic energy, the outcome is defined by the quantum collapse of dark energy.

Scientists will struggle to find Dark Matter as it is Layered on top of what we perceive as existing matter.

Everything in the universe collectively decides which universes are collapsed.

Every single parallel reality that exists right now are exactly the same and always have been.

The only difference between the realities that exist which are left is their potential futures from this point onwards.

I believe life is a program designed to create chance to help predetermine its outcome

Life exists in the wake of entropy

In doing so life has empowered it's actuation by helping itself to predetermined outcomes based on circumstances, tapping into a collective universal choice.

To some degree we have a collective freedom of choice based on circumstance to collectively shape the future.

I believe all realities funnel down to a single point in which probabilities of the universe that cease to exist collapse to generate matter in the present.

This can be seen at the subatomic level where particles can have the appearance of being in more than one place at the same time, where what you actually would be looking at is the collapse of particles of that matter which have decayed into the present to create a universally ever increasing matter and inflation throughout the universe.

Newtons second law and the Second law of thermodynamics are the fundamental driving force of time and space, position and outcome of our freedom of choice based on experience.

Life across the universe is collectively in the driving seat of time, choosing which realities shall no longer be possible, leaving only the potential universes left.

Blackholes are points in space that have reached their final outcome relative to the arrow of time.

All points where there are blackholes are actually the same point because all blackholes lead to one point of singularity where everything is infinite.

Gravity and quantum mechanics both can exist in this way and could be the driving force of quantum gravity and the interdependent relationship of baryonic matter’s quantum entanglement.

Although there may be other types of universes, I do not believe there are other variations of ourselves at present. Only in the future are there variations of ourselves and everything else that can happen until they are no longer possible.

There are no other realities that exist that are not at present exactly the same.

All other realities have now been destroyed to create this moment.

The only realities that remain are the ones that can only happen from this point onwards after experiencing the past.

Collectively we choose to decide which realities will remain.

Everything that is possible from this point onwards does happen until it cannot.

It is the universe that collectively decides whether Schrodinger's cat is dead or alive in the box.

I only need to be right in one of these potential universes.

If so, that version of me could emanate this thought beyond the known universes to acknowledge existence and intention to communicate to each other and others.

And here is how:
If all universes right now where we exist are exactly like the present.

At the point at which this was written all other versions of reality were collapsed to collectively create this moment.

The amount of collapse of universes is the difference in eccentricity between two funnels one inside the other (2 conical hyperbola)
I believe this theory could account for universes Inflation, utilising String Theory Positioning, Newtons second law and the Second law of thermodynamics.

So now, every version of you left in existence has now read this.”

What are your thoughts on this?
is it potential nonsense mathematically provable or disprovable?
Maybe it’s utter nonsense.

If you know someone who could put this perspective to the test please pass it on to them.
I have sent this to so many people in the last several years. Comically, I have still yet to find someone who could equate this or get a true response from anyone on this ‘matter’ :)
I hope you can.
Thanks,
Kind regards,

Andy
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