Trump: acquitted

[gaffo]

they'll impeach him again...

(it's all they have)

-Imp

Well, Russian interference didn't work, then Ukrainian interference didn't work. I'll bet there's some good dirt in Bulgaria...

It seems odd to have to go so far doesn't it? Like, if Biden had actually been the one driving for that specific prosecutor to be fired, the evidence wouldn't be in Ukraine, it would be in a filing cabinet at Foggy Bottom. Trump would never have needed Ukraine to show that Biden excercised improper influence, he could have told Shannon, Tillerson, Sullivan or Pompeo to just hand him all the proof he could possibly need.

just stop it using Reason Sir!!!!!!!!!!!

as you know its ineffective.

try brainstem emotion next time, the other sides effective weapon of chioce for the last 20 yrs.

you an egghead ineffectual leftie or something?

get use to losing over and over and over if reason is your weapon of choice.

[gaffo]

I think the Trumpette must go to bed a happy man knowing that he can lie and lie and lie and lie and basically shit all over the faces of his supporters and they just gobble it up.

We know Nancy Boy Miss Lindsey has shirts in his closet shaking since Rump got something one him - a vid?/snitch- former male intern?/audio tape of a trist?

there is something there, and i used to respect Miss Lindsey these last 25 yrs, but lost it these last 2 yrs, i do think he used to love my nation and was a patriot, but when push comes to shove (oh my god! i'll be out of the closet and i a repulbican from south caroline) - he failed the test of honour under travail, and made his choice (myself over my constitution/rule of law).

so fuck that coward! sissy boy bugger son of a bitch.

Devin Nunes and Kevin McCarthy are just plain traitors - with some nice property and fat bank accounts in Cyprus via Putin.

[gaffo]

Did Bobbie challenge Trump's immunity claims in court?

Did Adam challenge Trump's immunity claims in court?

That was, is, the remedy to an oversteppin' executive.

Both Bobbie & Adam had nearly unlimited investigatory power.

Neither exercised it wisely.

Boo-friggin'-Whoo

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you don't mind

As long as he's doin' what I hired him to do: I don't give a flyin' fuck.

the courts were not the only remedy - as i stated in another thread months ago (at least used 30 times - last in the 1930s), the House has the legal power and right to order thier sargent of arms (Paul Irving) - to literally walk up to anyone refusing a subpoena and literally hall him away to the House's basement jail.

as said, it was done many times in the past, and it should have been done this time!

[gaffo]

He will win the election again, while in office next term, USA's economy will suffer greatly and eventually go bankrupt.

as long as the economy is doing well Rump will win.

however using history/elections as an example (Reichbug ruin the economy - are booted out, dems fix it, but too slowly so Reichbugs relectied and etc......dems fix the shit the bugs make, but to the time delay bugs get elected over and over.

GHWB - econ tanks before election Clinton fixes, sheople forget elect GWB - scon tanks, Obama fixes econ, sheople forget elect Rump.............econ may collapse prior to Nov 2020, Bernie elected fixes econ - next Bug take over due to sheople short memory, future bug ruins econ ............and again a Dem fixed the shit they make, and again the sheople forget history and elect the next bug that ruins the ecomony.................

ad infinitum

[gaffo]

Trump is as guilty as hell.

What happened with his acquittal demonstrates the failure of US democracy.
When a matter of law is mediated by a political vote this abuses the most fundamental principle of modern democratic governance.
The president is now above the law. This is exactly the characteristic failure of governance that the US revolution was designed to avoid. When the King can act regardless of law, then we have a problem.

yep ;-(

As bad as it is the UK last year demonstrated how things should be done. When BOJO prorogued parliament, his government had to face a legal process that found the government in breach of the law; Parliament was re-instated.

Yep Justice Lady Hale done good!

I commend her and her court for upholding the Rule of Law (not so much The Queen though - she had the power to tell Boris to pound sand (refuse dissbandment of parlement) prior to the brit SC rulling on the mater - and did not use her legal power under British Rule of Law - instead played the cowered since using that power would be out of the norm in the last 200 yrs - well the times demanded it, and she shirked the responsibility and instead placed it upon Lady Hale, who fortunately ruled in favor of the Rule of Law.

Trump's crime is on a massively greater scale. Not only was his actions in the Ukraine specifically designed to subvert free and fair elections, but he also failed to co-operate with the legal process by failing to provide information.

yep

[gaffo]

Why would I do that?

Because he's a decent person, intelligent, and he doesn't talk as if he's just had a massive stroke.

He's a commie even the Dems in power don't want.

I'll pass.

DNC/most "new" dems are corporatists.

Bernie is no communist, he's a 1970's and prior (FDR-type) Democrat.

BTW Socialism is not a four letter word, France, Germany and Demark are doing fine under it.

unless your argument is that:

France, Germany, Demark are:

Communist Nation and/or are not doing well economically?

is that your Argument? France is a communist nation?

lol.

[gaffo]

Trump is as guilty as hell.

What happened with his acquittal demonstrates the failure of US democracy.
When a matter of law is mediated by a political vote this abuses the most fundamental principle of modern democratic governance.
The president is now above the law. This is exactly the characteristic failure of governance that the US revolution was designed to avoid. When the King can act regardless of law, then we have a problem.

As bad as it is the UK last year demonstrated how things should be done. When BOJO prorogued parliament, his government had to face a legal process that found the government in breach of the law; Parliament was re-instated.
Trump's crime is on a massively greater scale. Not only was his actions in the Ukraine specifically designed to subvert free and fair elections, but he also failed to co-operate with the legal process by failing to provide information.

Aquitted

suck it up, baby

Aquitted - via a corrupt body means nothing.

I assume you could affirm the aquittal of putin by the russian courts as worthy of validity per the Rule of Law.

or of any other dictator from any banana "republic's" courts.

[gaffo]

"yanks don't even know what a communist is."

Oh, I know the spiel: Bernie is Democratic Socialist, and, socialism and communism aren't the same.

Yeah, sure, okay, fine...

All Western democracies are 'communist' by your reckoning. Any country that has good universal healthcare and education is 'communist' in your book.

agreed. Henry is a nitwit.

[HexHammer]

as long as the economy is doing well Rump will win.

however using history/elections as an example (Reichbug ruin the economy - are booted out, dems fix it, but too slowly so Reichbugs relectied and etc......dems fix the shit the bugs make, but to the time delay bugs get elected over and over.

GHWB - econ tanks before election Clinton fixes, sheople forget elect GWB - scon tanks, Obama fixes econ, sheople forget elect Rump.............econ may collapse prior to Nov 2020, Bernie elected fixes econ - next Bug take over due to sheople short memory, future bug ruins econ ............and again a Dem fixed the shit they make, and again the sheople forget history and elect the next bug that ruins the ecomony.................

ad infinitum

.............dude......................in lay terms plz!!! I'm not native english speaking and in your case, not Gunslinger speaking!!! You use too much slang that are only understandable by Gunslingers!!

[gaffo]

as long as the economy is doing well Rump will win.

however using history/elections as an example (Reichbug ruin the economy - are booted out, dems fix it, but too slowly so Reichbugs relectied and etc......dems fix the shit the bugs make, but to the time delay bugs get elected over and over.

GHWB - econ tanks before election Clinton fixes, sheople forget elect GWB - scon tanks, Obama fixes econ, sheople forget elect Rump.............econ may collapse prior to Nov 2020, Bernie elected fixes econ - next Bug take over due to sheople short memory, future bug ruins econ ............and again a Dem fixed the shit they make, and again the sheople forget history and elect the next bug that ruins the ecomony.................

ad infinitum

.............dude......................in lay terms plz!!! I'm not native english speaking and in your case, not Gunslinger speaking!!! You use too much slang that are only understandable by Gunslingers!!

understood.

BTW Henry thinks you are a Communist.

are you?

[henry quirk]

BTW Henry thinks you are a Communist.

Where did I say Hex was a commie?

[HexHammer]

BTW Henry thinks you are a Communist.

Where did I say Hex was a commie?

He's just making up bullshit, since he lost the argument.

[Immanuel Can]

agreed. Henry is a nitwit.

Henry's right.

Western socialism is just Communism advocated by historical amnesiacs.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

agreed. Henry is a nitwit.

Henry's right.

Western socialism is just Communism advocated by historical amnesiacs.

Yes, because Communist countries have elections, free speech, freedom of the press, high living standards, equal rights under the law.....

I agree that all of that is disappearing, but what YOU want resembles so-called 'communsim' far more than any well run Western democracies do.

[Immanuel Can]

agreed. Henry is a nitwit.

Henry's right.

Western socialism is just Communism advocated by historical amnesiacs.

Yes, because Communist countries have elections,

They do...but you only get to vote for the party candidate. I guess they impeach the others.

free speech,

The Socialists in the US don't want this. Being Collectivists, they call any un-PC speech "hate speech, "and try to stamp it out, using Antifa blackshirts, just like the Nazis used the brownshirts.

freedom of the press,

In the US, the press is an organ of government parties, and the major networks favour one party in particular.

equal rights under the law

Tell the Chinese folks who want to get into Harvard how "equal" it is for them. Ask the men who have lost all say about the disposition of their children how "equal" things are. Ask the poor people who live in Baltimore, Detroit, Chicago, LA, and every other city where the socialists have got their hooks in just how much they're enjoying all that "equality" they're getting.

It's interesting how today's Socialists always want us to forget the entire past of Socialism. They say, "The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics? That wasn't real Socialism." Then, "Maoist China? Not real Socialism." "Cuba? Venezuela? North Korea? Not real Socialism." "Cambodia, Romania, Albania, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria...all not real Socialism..." Apparently, nobody who calls themselves Socialist, and sets out to do Socialism, ever really does...

So where was the "real Socialism?" Where is that country that did it right? Where did Socialism ever produce anything but oppression, economic ruin, inequality, corruption and tyranny? And how did we get so consummately arrogant as to suppose that if all those countries got it wrong, it would be so dead easy for us to get it right, if we had tried?

Can we afford another mistake like all of those? And who will pay for our mistake, when we make it?