Trump: acquitted

[henry quirk]

"I'm quite willing to withdraw the specific "exactly the same" charge,"

That's all I was counterin'. I got no interest in a debate on the rest.

[Lacewing]

Because everyone should know that you regularly try to get away with this sort of dishonesty, so everyone else has to reference back all the time just to keep you from lying.

IC lies as much as Trump does, which is probably why Henry doesn't notice or care. I've pointed out his dishonesty many times, but then IC sidesteps it by claiming "ad-hominem". It is important to call out dishonesty. IC routinely rephrases and misrepresents what people say, so that he can respond instead to a distorted fantasy to serve his purposes. It's obvious and absurd, and I don't know how anyone would take him seriously (except maybe Henry, who focuses on small agreeables that serve himself in some way). The only fascination in these exchanges with IC is in presenting statements that he cannot answer without dismantling and distorting as he does. It's easy -- and he puts on quite a pompous show of dancing around it.

[henry quirk]

Find out for yourself.

https://www.c-span.org/

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Mannie lies?

Examine the threads he participates in


None of this is arcane stuff.

Do your own homework.

[Immanuel Can]

IC lies as much as Trump does...

Aaaaaad hominem.

[BardoXV]

He's a crook, but he's your crook.

Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know.

[gaffo]

;-(


god bless Romney

[gaffo]

I think the Trumpette must go to bed a happy man knowing that he can lie and lie and lie and lie and basically shit all over the faces of his supporters and they just gobble it up.

not to mention shitting upon my Constitution and the related Rule of law

;-(.

[gaffo]

they'll impeach him again...

(it's all they have)

-Imp

Since they have no viable candidate for the presidency the only thing they can do is tarnish and perhaps invalidate the next election. The recent kerfluffle in Iowa was a trial run.

I think Iowa was all about denyin' Bernie (again).

yep. gotta love tom Perez ;-/

[gaffo]

He will win the election again, while in office next term, USA's economy will suffer greatly and eventually go bankrupt.

Why?

national debt.

[gaffo]

I'm glad Henry, so now you can vote for Bernie at the next election.

Why would I do that?

Because he's a decent person, intelligent, and he doesn't talk as if he's just had a massive stroke.

i like bernie too

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Because everyone should know that you regularly try to get away with this sort of dishonesty, so everyone else has to reference back all the time just to keep you from lying.

IC lies as much as Trump does, which is probably why Henry doesn't notice or care. I've pointed out his dishonesty many times, but then IC sidesteps it by claiming "ad-hominem". It is important to call out dishonesty. IC routinely rephrases and misrepresents what people say, so that he can respond instead to a distorted fantasy to serve his purposes. It's obvious and absurd, and I don't know how anyone would take him seriously (except maybe Henry, who focuses on small agreeables that serve himself in some way). The only fascination in these exchanges with IC is in presenting statements that he cannot answer without dismantling and distorting as he does. It's easy -- and he puts on quite a pompous show of dancing around it.

Which policies of Trump's do you dislike so much?

[henry quirk]

Because everyone should know that you regularly try to get away with this sort of dishonesty, so everyone else has to reference back all the time just to keep you from lying.

IC lies as much as Trump does, which is probably why Henry doesn't notice or care. I've pointed out his dishonesty many times, but then IC sidesteps it by claiming "ad-hominem". It is important to call out dishonesty. IC routinely rephrases and misrepresents what people say, so that he can respond instead to a distorted fantasy to serve his purposes. It's obvious and absurd, and I don't know how anyone would take him seriously (except maybe Henry, who focuses on small agreeables that serve himself in some way). The only fascination in these exchanges with IC is in presenting statements that he cannot answer without dismantling and distorting as he does. It's easy -- and he puts on quite a pompous show of dancing around it.

Which policies of Trump's do you dislike so much?

five bucks sez she can't name one

and, if she does name one, it'll be sumthin' Trump never proposed

[Lacewing]

IC lies as much as Trump does, which is probably why Henry doesn't notice or care. I've pointed out his dishonesty many times, but then IC sidesteps it by claiming "ad-hominem". It is important to call out dishonesty. IC routinely rephrases and misrepresents what people say, so that he can respond instead to a distorted fantasy to serve his purposes. It's obvious and absurd, and I don't know how anyone would take him seriously (except maybe Henry, who focuses on small agreeables that serve himself in some way). The only fascination in these exchanges with IC is in presenting statements that he cannot answer without dismantling and distorting as he does. It's easy -- and he puts on quite a pompous show of dancing around it.

Which policies of Trump's do you dislike so much?

five bucks sez she can't name one

and, if she does name one, it'll be sumthin' Trump never proposed

Pick any of his policies that roll-back or destroy environmental protection.

Neither one of you are balanced enough in your views to have a useful discussion -- you just look for disharmony and things that you can attack. So, your questions are just a game of provocation -- you don't really care what the answer is -- and that seems stupid and dishonest to me, so why don't you busy yourselves by playing with each other?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

IC lies as much as Trump does, which is probably why Henry doesn't notice or care. I've pointed out his dishonesty many times, but then IC sidesteps it by claiming "ad-hominem". It is important to call out dishonesty. IC routinely rephrases and misrepresents what people say, so that he can respond instead to a distorted fantasy to serve his purposes. It's obvious and absurd, and I don't know how anyone would take him seriously (except maybe Henry, who focuses on small agreeables that serve himself in some way). The only fascination in these exchanges with IC is in presenting statements that he cannot answer without dismantling and distorting as he does. It's easy -- and he puts on quite a pompous show of dancing around it.

Which policies of Trump's do you dislike so much?

five bucks sez she can't name one

and, if she does name one, it'll be sumthin' Trump never proposed

I wonder if she knows or cares that Saint Obama deported 3 million illegal immigrants in his tenure? Or that it's actually Trump who has done more about gun control than Obama ever did in his whole time in office?
I'm fed up with all the tribal bullshit; that someone can do no wrong/right depending on whether or not they are part of your 'tribe'. It's pathetic and people need to stop 'thinking' like that. If a science-denying relgious nut-job says something I agree with then I will agree with it.
And there's no point in her asking me to prove these things. 'Googling' only shows information from a 'tribal' perspective. Facts are facts, and they don't alter depending on which tribe you happen to be affiliated with.

[Lacewing]

Which policies of Trump's do you dislike so much?

five bucks sez she can't name one

and, if she does name one, it'll be sumthin' Trump never proposed

I wonder if she knows or cares that Saint Obama deported 3 million illegal immigrants in his tenure? Or that it's actually Trump who has done more about gun control than Obama ever did in his whole time in office?
I'm fed up with all the tribal bullshit. That someone can do no wrong/right depending on whether or not they are part of your 'tribe'. It's pathetic and people need to stop 'thinking' like that. If a science-denying relgious nut-job says something I agree with then I will agree with it.
And there's no point in her asking me to prove these thing. 'Googling' only shows information from a 'tribal' perspective. Facts are facts, and they don't alter depending on which tribe you happen to be affiliated with.

Yes, I care...and I'm not a blind follower. But that doesn't fit neatly in your model of how and who to hate, so what difference does it make what I say? You have an agenda... and you, yourself, are a blind follower of hate. So fuck off, okay?