Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:15 am
Justified true beliefs are just recursive beliefs as the justification of the belief is composed of subsidiary beliefs...right down to believing one's senses....
(Mic drop)...
Try again....and stop screwing around...I want to be entertained. And dont try repeating my comebacks...it makes you seem desperate.
Wait you know what, just copy them...you need them...
You are deflecting again.
You stated belief could be transcendental illusions.
I stated that belief is Justified True Belief i.e. scientific thus not illusions.
If JTBs are grounded on the senses, then, that can be empirically verified which is what scientific theories are.
I stated that according to your context they can be transcendental illusions...illusion or no illusion both are contexts. An illusion is just a perceived disconnect between contexts (ie someone see a unicorn but noone else sees it). The illusion is no longer an illusion when a new connecting context is introduced (the unicorn is seen in a dream thus people can connect as they have dreams).
JTB began with plato... it is not limited to the senses as even the connection of sensory phenomena is grounded in abstract memory.
And justified true belief, as well as science and all other phenomenon, are grounded in circularity...thus they prove a perfect circle as the argument of a perfect circle must go in a perfect circle and thus self references at multiple dimensions.
You are deflecting and talking nonsense.
Beliefs when verified as justified true beliefs such Science [scientific method] cannot be transcendental illusions or generally illusional.
Any person of average intelligent and above would not dispute the above.
However you are really mad and take each individual variable and run off with it into a rant.
Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:31 am
You are deflecting again.
You stated belief could be transcendental illusions.
I stated that belief is Justified True Belief i.e. scientific thus not illusions.
If JTBs are grounded on the senses, then, that can be empirically verified which is what scientific theories are.
I stated that according to your context they can be transcendental illusions...illusion or no illusion both are contexts. An illusion is just a perceived disconnect between contexts (ie someone see a unicorn but noone else sees it). The illusion is no longer an illusion when a new connecting context is introduced (the unicorn is seen in a dream thus people can connect as they have dreams).
JTB began with plato... it is not limited to the senses as even the connection of sensory phenomena is grounded in abstract memory.
And justified true belief, as well as science and all other phenomenon, are grounded in circularity...thus they prove a perfect circle as the argument of a perfect circle must go in a perfect circle and thus self references at multiple dimensions.
You are deflecting and talking nonsense.
Beliefs when verified as justified true beliefs such Science [scientific method] cannot be transcendental illusions or generally illusional.
Any person of average intelligent and above would not dispute the above.
However you are really mad and take each individual variable and run off with it into a rant.
Actually they can be illusions. The speed of light has been proven to change, yet many believe it is a constant. On top of that they just redefine the speed of light as a constant, and redefine and redefine.
Scientific facts are just definitions that change over time. They are just stories of God's people bend down to.
A person of average intellect would not even talk about the above, and that is a bandwagon fallacy...again.
You are just making useless assertions as usual....zombie parasites getting to you? ROFL!
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:50 pm
I stated that according to your context they can be transcendental illusions...illusion or no illusion both are contexts. An illusion is just a perceived disconnect between contexts (ie someone see a unicorn but noone else sees it). The illusion is no longer an illusion when a new connecting context is introduced (the unicorn is seen in a dream thus people can connect as they have dreams).
JTB began with plato... it is not limited to the senses as even the connection of sensory phenomena is grounded in abstract memory.
And justified true belief, as well as science and all other phenomenon, are grounded in circularity...thus they prove a perfect circle as the argument of a perfect circle must go in a perfect circle and thus self references at multiple dimensions.
You are deflecting and talking nonsense.
Beliefs when verified as justified true beliefs such Science [scientific method] cannot be transcendental illusions or generally illusional.
Any person of average intelligent and above would not dispute the above.
However you are really mad and take each individual variable and run off with it into a rant.
Actually they can be illusions. The speed of light has been proven to change, yet many believe it is a constant. On top of that they just redefine the speed of light as a constant, and redefine and redefine.
Scientific facts are just definitions that change over time. They are just stories of God's people bend down to.
A person of average intellect would not even talk about the above, and that is a bandwagon fallacy...again.
You are just making useless assertions as usual....zombie parasites getting to you? ROFL!
Maya literally "illusion" or "magic",[1][2] has multiple meanings in Indian philosophies depending on the context.
In ancient Vedic literature, Māyā literally implies extraordinary power and wisdom.[3]
In later Vedic texts and modern literature dedicated to Indian traditions, Māyā connotes a "magic show, an illusion where things appear to be present but are not what they seem".[2][4]
Māyā is also a spiritual concept connoting "that which exists, but is constantly changing and thus is spiritually unreal", and the "power or the principle that conceals the true character of spiritual reality".
-wiki
Whilst everything including Scientific knowledge are illusions in terms of MAYA, scientific knowledge are also real within the scientific paradigm and this scientific reality is useful to mankind.
If everything is an illusion under MAYA so the idea of God is also an illusion within MAYA. The difference is this idea of God cannot be real in any other perspectives, e.g. Science. Thus the idea of God is an illusion within an illusion [MAYA] thus an absolute illusion with no possibility of being real at all.
Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:44 am
You are deflecting and talking nonsense.
Beliefs when verified as justified true beliefs such Science [scientific method] cannot be transcendental illusions or generally illusional.
Any person of average intelligent and above would not dispute the above.
However you are really mad and take each individual variable and run off with it into a rant.
Actually they can be illusions. The speed of light has been proven to change, yet many believe it is a constant. On top of that they just redefine the speed of light as a constant, and redefine and redefine.
Scientific facts are just definitions that change over time. They are just stories of God's people bend down to.
A person of average intellect would not even talk about the above, and that is a bandwagon fallacy...again.
You are just making useless assertions as usual....zombie parasites getting to you? ROFL!
Maya literally "illusion" or "magic",[1][2] has multiple meanings in Indian philosophies depending on the context.
In ancient Vedic literature, Māyā literally implies extraordinary power and wisdom.[3]
In later Vedic texts and modern literature dedicated to Indian traditions, Māyā connotes a "magic show, an illusion where things appear to be present but are not what they seem".[2][4]
Māyā is also a spiritual concept connoting "that which exists, but is constantly changing and thus is spiritually unreal", and the "power or the principle that conceals the true character of spiritual reality".
-wiki
Whilst everything including Scientific knowledge are illusions in terms of MAYA, scientific knowledge are also real within the scientific paradigm and this scientific reality is useful to mankind.
If everything is an illusion under MAYA so the idea of God is also an illusion within MAYA. The difference is this idea of God cannot be real in any other perspectives, e.g. Science. Thus the idea of God is an illusion within an illusion [MAYA] thus an absolute illusion with no possibility of being real at all.