Was god choosing Jesus just; or should the Father have chosen the cross for himself?

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Was god choosing Jesus just; or should the Father have chosen the cross for himself?

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Was god choosing Jesus just; or should the Father have chosen the cross for himself?

1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.

Chose here means Jesus being chosen to be the messiah and sacrifice to the Father. It also means the Father, --- and Judge in this case, --- deciding to demand and accept what is synonymous to a bribe.

That is an evil act to most people.

If you were the god you are to emulate, would you send your child to die or would you step up?

Should sons bury fathers or should fathers bury sons?

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The cross is universal, and observed in native American paganism as well as buddhism under the "mandella".

It is a symbol of "catching evil" (negative negatives) where in Christianity took on the Judgement of Man and Destroy it as death of death.

It is also a symbol of synthesis between heavens (abstract) represented by the vertical line and the earth (empirical) represented by the horizontal line observed by the horizon.

The negation of negation results in the assumption of all things thus is synthetic by nature. This synthesis is observed further as God as Man and Man as God.


It is an archetypal form inherent within the psyche so to argue against the cross is to argue against man as this form is not only inherent as a spatial archetype representing how we measure reality (we use the cross in charts) but observes how we continual divides dualisms into further dualisms (analysis).

Get rid of the Cross and you get rid of reason.



Save your bullsnit serpent it comes off as whining...
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:27 am The cross is universal, and observed in native American paganism as well as buddhism under the "mandella".

It is a symbol of "catching evil" (negative negatives) where in Christianity took on the Judgement of Man and Destroy it as death of death.

It is also a symbol of synthesis between heavens (abstract) represented by the vertical line and the earth (empirical) represented by the horizontal line observed by the horizon.

The negation of negation results in the assumption of all things thus is synthetic by nature. This synthesis is observed further as God as Man and Man as God.


It is an archetypal form inherent within the psyche so to argue against the cross is to argue against man as this form is not only inherent as a spatial archetype representing how we measure reality (we use the cross in charts) but observes how we continual divides dualisms into further dualisms (analysis).

Get rid of the Cross and you get rid of reason.



Save your bullsnit serpent it comes off as whining...
You ignore the issue.

And you bitch about my stile.

Go away till you can speak to the topic at hand, braineac.

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Greatest I am wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:50 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:27 am The cross is universal, and observed in native American paganism as well as buddhism under the "mandella".

It is a symbol of "catching evil" (negative negatives) where in Christianity took on the Judgement of Man and Destroy it as death of death.

It is also a symbol of synthesis between heavens (abstract) represented by the vertical line and the earth (empirical) represented by the horizontal line observed by the horizon.

The negation of negation results in the assumption of all things thus is synthetic by nature. This synthesis is observed further as God as Man and Man as God.


It is an archetypal form inherent within the psyche so to argue against the cross is to argue against man as this form is not only inherent as a spatial archetype representing how we measure reality (we use the cross in charts) but observes how we continual divides dualisms into further dualisms (analysis).

Get rid of the Cross and you get rid of reason.



Save your bullsnit serpent it comes off as whining...
You ignore the issue.

And you bitch about my stile.

Go away till you can speak to the topic at hand, braineac.

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No, I addressed the issue directly...the "Cross" in inseperable from choice as it is grounded in the basic means of reasoning and choice due to its archetypal nature. Even Plato, it has been argued, talked about crucifixion as an archetype.

You cannot separate the cross from the nature of man or God.
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Greatest I am wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:23 am If you were the god you are to emulate, would you send your child to die or would you step up?
God is the child.



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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:56 am
Greatest I am wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:23 am If you were the god you are to emulate, would you send your child to die or would you step up?
God is the child.

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So you would have your child murdered and accept the bribe you demanded.

Thanks for your honesty and hypocrisy. Now I have two examples of poor apologists.

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Greatest I am wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:07 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:56 am
Greatest I am wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:23 am If you were the god you are to emulate, would you send your child to die or would you step up?
God is the child.

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So you would have your child murdered and accept the bribe you demanded.

Thanks for your honesty and hypocrisy. Now I have two examples of poor apologists.

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DL
Actually Greatest I am you have no moral system to reference as to what is right or wrong, you cannot make any value judgements except a statement of "self hood"...but thus is just an empty loop that really just further proves God Sacrificing himself to Himself, because of his intrinsic emptiness of self hood mandates that the Crucifixion metaphorically and literally does not contradict the nature of God and Man as god(s).

The sacrifice of the self to the self (with the self as instrincially empty thus voiding of void), considering mankind as an image of God is an extension of God (thus co creator/destroyer), is a fundamentally circularity that reflects in the 24 definitions of God as well as the symbol of the Circumpunct (circle with dot in it or cross in circle (which goes by a different name)).

You have no moral stance as morality itself requires a looping connection that sets the grounds for any identity. Morality is the proper means of existence, thus is instrincially a question of identity.

You have no rational moral or value system.
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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:56 am
Greatest I am wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:23 am If you were the god you are to emulate, would you send your child to die or would you step up?
God is the child.



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God is the Adult and the Child. The child is an observation of the synthesis between the male/female, active/passive, cause/effect, being/image...and a myriad of phenomenon.

It is the triadic element, reflecting a center point of the family structure as where the family converges and diverges. In the respects Christ as Mediator is reflected in Son of God and Son of Man as well as a variety of other mediatory attributes.

Even in the end God as these phenomenon is still empty of and being these phenomenon much like a loop containing a loop is both empty (formless) and actively containing emptiness (form) at the same time.
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Greatest I am wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:23 am Was god choosing Jesus just; or should the Father have chosen the cross for himself?

1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.

Chose here means Jesus being chosen to be the messiah and sacrifice to the Father. It also means the Father, --- and Judge in this case, --- deciding to demand and accept what is synonymous to a bribe.

That is an evil act to most people.

If you were the god you are to emulate, would you send your child to die or would you step up?

Should sons bury fathers or should fathers bury sons?

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DL
My personal belief - is that Jesus was God incarnate as man. The reason he went around stating he was the 'son' of God is rather obvious. It's one thing - even back then to claim you are the son of God - it's quite another to claim to BE God.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:02 pm
Actually Greatest I am you have no moral system to reference as to what is right or wrong, [/quote]

Gen3;22 Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil;

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.

When you grow up into an adult, you to will learn to judge morals.

It is a shame you cannot tell right from wrong without asking someone.

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Greatest I am wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:29 pmGen3;22 Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil;


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I'm pretty certain you have NO idea about 'its' evil.
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attofishpi wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:48 am

My personal belief - is that Jesus was God incarnate as man. .
Put away the things of children. The supernatural.

If you judge Jesus by his moral tenets, you will find that he is lacking in his moral sense.

His no divorce and substitutional punishment are his most immoral tenets.

If Jesus is god, then he is a genocidal son murdering p**** just like Yahweh is.

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attofishpi wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:32 pm
Greatest I am wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:29 pmGen3;22 Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil;


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I'm pretty certain you have NO idea about 'its' evil.
Thanks for the unqualified garbage opinion.
I can really defend myself when not knowing what you are talking about.

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Greatest I am wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:34 pm
attofishpi wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:48 am

My personal belief - is that Jesus was God incarnate as man. .
Put away the things of children. The supernatural.

If you judge Jesus by his moral tenets, you will find that he is lacking in his moral sense.

His no divorce and substitutional punishment are his most immoral tenets.

If Jesus is god, then he is a genocidal son murdering p**** just like Yahweh is.

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Hahaha. Ye succumb to the evil of da system! You are talking bollocks as usual - you are a clueless fukka.

Nothing supernatural about this 'God' thang btw.
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Greatest I am wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:36 pm
attofishpi wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:32 pm
Greatest I am wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:29 pmGen3;22 Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil;


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I'm pretty certain you have NO idea about 'its' evil.
Thanks for the unqualified garbage opinion.
I can really defend myself when not knowing what you are talking about.

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As far as I am aware, I AM the only one qualified on this forum to inform ye of opinion re evil.
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