That's the kind of in the know guy I am, glad I could help!Dubious wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:56 pmIs that all there's to it. Gee, I didn't know. I'm so glad someone set me straight!attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:53 amThere is nothing irrational by not believing in something. The only error atheism suffers from is that all of them (atheists) are wrong.Dubious wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:37 pm
This as stated is in itself an irrational argument since rationality as incorporated in humans is itself highly questionable and puts god in a very dubious position as to how rationality is defined. There is also the conclusion in this position that atheists by their non-belief are inherently irrational.
Theism in every way suffers from every kind of error. It's the ONE system devised by humans built on an encyclopedia of fallacies from A to Z.
Paradoxically, by a judicious use of such fallacies it's possible to create a fairly coherent system.![]()
Rationality And God
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God either exists or does not exist but I fail to see exactly what is wrong with this statement of mine given that it is definitely trueattofishpi wrote:
The only error atheism suffers from is that all of them ( atheists ) are wrong
I do not know whether or not God exists and I could study religion to find the answer but my actual ignorance is also definitely true
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What statement of yours?surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:34 amGod either exists or does not exist but I fail to see exactly what is wrong with this statement of mine given that it is definitely trueattofishpi wrote:
The only error atheism suffers from is that all of them ( atheists ) are wrong
I do not know whether or not God exists and I could study religion to find the answer but my actual ignorance is also definitely true
Sure, glimpse at religion (perhaps ALL of them) but my best advice would be to comprehend physics as best you can.
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OP's syllogism;
P1 is merely assumed and is an unproven proposition.
P2 - rationality is conditioned [with assumptions and limitations] upon human beings
The conclusion is based on a non-sequitor argument, thus groundless.
- P1 God exists
P2 The existing God [P1] is rational
P3 God created the Universe
P4 The existing God-created-Universe is rational
C5 Therefore a Godless universe cannot exist.
P1 is merely assumed and is an unproven proposition.
P2 - rationality is conditioned [with assumptions and limitations] upon human beings
- It is thus meaningless to assert rationality without also specifying the background model assumptions describing how the problem is framed and formulated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationality
The conclusion is based on a non-sequitor argument, thus groundless.