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[Age]

Most of what I write here is utterly boring as I am just asking for clarification about what others propose is the truth

I am not proposing any truth at all but simply stating what I think could be true based upon the knowledge I have

That is fair enough when what is being proposed is just what is thought of as being true and is not being proposed as being necessarily true.

But, from my perspective, you do seem to propose things as though they are true, and do seem not to be Truly open to new ideas and views.

Whether it is actually true or not I have no idea and less I ever do then any claim to the truth cannot be justified

I did not understand the last part of your sentence here.

Are you saying that the truth cannot be justified, or, that your truth cannot be justified, or are you saying some thing else?

[Age]

See where you think we are disagreeing is that you and the others here in this forum as well look at things from a separatist and narrow
perspective of things whereas I do not see any actual separation and thus look at EVERY thing in continuum

To me there is no separation in evolution . Evolution just does what it does eternally

I also think that the Universe has always been in a state of evolution since it is changing all the time
All motion is change and the Universe is in an eternal state of motion so change must be eternal too

Okay that is another point we agree on.

Would you like to move onto any other points?

I would, but I do not like to lead onto any thing that you may not like to discuss.

But I am OPEN to moving onto any subject, which, what we do agree on here, does lead into and onto anyway.

By the way, absolutely any topic of discussion is fine with me.

Realizing that the Universe is an eternal state of motion, and that motion is change, and that 'change' is just basically what evolution refers to, then coming to understand and realizing the answers to ALL the other meaningful topics just naturally flows as well, I found.

[Age]

Your verbosity has a mentally drowning effect. Too much spoils the flavour.

I agree that my verbosity would have this effect, and that saying less can say more. But now that you critiqued my writings are you at least able to provide some suggests? I certainly hope so.

For example, how do I write in a few, entertaining, words that, I neither believe nor disbelieve any thing, and have those words fully understood and accepted?

Especially if, for example, a person believes that this is just nonsense, then please explain to me how I could write, in any amounts of words, to have this understood by that person.

Are you aware that when a person is not open at all to an idea or view then NO amount of words can help them to see and understand that idea or view?

If a person believes (or disbelieves) some thing, then they are not open at all. If a person is closed to some thing, then they are obviously unable to see and understand 'that'.

Your assistance here would be much appreciated.

[Atla]

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Sure, there seems to have been a bottleneck a few ten thousand years ago in human evolution, when the human population was reduced to a very small number. I too have arrived at the conclusion that it is likely that this bottleneck made humanity more greedy/evil, as that's what they needed to survive at that point and now everyone is descended from them.

But then again many other species can also be greedy, in humans this trait got merely intensified (plus we developed the ego etc. which made things even worse). And greed/evil seems to have sped up human development, requiring a shorter route to the now, so looks like, as I said, things have happened as they should have.

Nothing really went wrong and the world isn't benevolent, you found no world-changing idea, sorry.
The only way forward that I see is genetic engineering, with all its terrible risks, that would create a better human species.

The catch-22 is that we would probably need a non-greedy humanity to come together as one and see through such a project.
Well, maybe it will become possible to sell genetic engineering to the greedy humans in the distant future - hehe.

[Walker]

Your verbosity has a mentally drowning effect. Too much spoils the flavour.

"I agree that my verbosity would have this effect, and that saying less can say more. But now that you critiqued my writings are you at least able to provide some suggests? I certainly hope so."

"Your assistance here would be much appreciated."

Say what you have to say in 25 words or less.

Catch the best 25.

[Age]

Your verbosity has a mentally drowning effect. Too much spoils the flavour.

"I agree that my verbosity would have this effect, and that saying less can say more. But now that you critiqued my writings are you at least able to provide some suggests? I certainly hope so."

"Your assistance here would be much appreciated."

Say what you have to say in 25 words or less.

Honestly there is nothing that I "have to" say, but there are some things that I would, one day, like to express. These will come about, as they say, 'when the time is right'.

Catch the best 25.

In relation to what exactly?

But, let us say, for now it is in in relation to 'world peace',

Then, learning 'how world peace is very achievable' is very easily done with Honesty, Openness, and a serious Want/Willingness to change, for the better.

(If that was the best 25, then that could be up for questioning.)

[Walker]

In relation to your unofficial communiqué.

[The Woodster]

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Sure, there seems to have been a bottleneck a few ten thousand years ago in human evolution, when the human population was reduced to a very small number. I too have arrived at the conclusion that it is likely that this bottleneck made humanity more greedy/evil, as that's what they needed to survive at that point and now everyone is descended from them.

But then again many other species can also be greedy, in humans this trait got merely intensified (plus we developed the ego etc. which made things even worse). And greed/evil seems to have sped up human development, requiring a shorter route to the now, so looks like, as I said, things have happened as they should have.

Nothing really went wrong and the world isn't benevolent, you found no world-changing idea, sorry.

I'am still not convinced. I believe that had this 'bottleneck' not occurred when it did, then homo-sapiens would have evolved completely differently. The neanderthals had left Africa 450 thousand yrs before homo-sapiens, and lived in Europe all this time, in peaceful groups. (they never used weapons, or even threw objects, apparently) I still believe that homo-sapiens would have evolved along similar lines and they too would have become peaceful and content, but what appears to have happened is that these greedy war-like homo-sapiens exterminated every Neanderthal they came into contact with.
Due to my original theory (that this world isn't what was intended) i searched on-line for everything i could find on human evolution, hoping to find somewhere in our history that could have caused a mishap in human development, and came upon this 'bottleneck' where homo-sapiens almost died out, which seemed to validate my theory.
It's a fascinating subject, and i will publish more in the future, but i don't want to argue with you, not like Dangerpants and Age did and who totally f***ked up my original post about the meaning of life!!

[Atla]

I'am still not convinced. I believe that had this 'bottleneck' not occurred when it did, then homo-sapiens would have evolved completely differently. The neanderthals had left Africa 450 thousand yrs before homo-sapiens, and lived in Europe all this time, in peaceful groups. (they never used weapons, or even threw objects, apparently) I still believe that homo-sapiens would have evolved along similar lines and they too would have become peaceful and content, but what appears to have happened is that these greedy war-like homo-sapiens exterminated every Neanderthal they came into contact with.
Due to my original theory (that this world isn't what was intended) i searched on-line for everything i could find on human evolution, hoping to find somewhere in our history that could have caused a mishap in human development, and came upon this 'bottleneck' where homo-sapiens almost died out, which seemed to validate my theory.
It's a fascinating subject, and i will publish more in the future, but i don't want to argue with you, not like Dangerpants and Age did and who totally f***ked up my original post about the meaning of life!!

Look at what life actually is: 4 billion years of eating each other dead or alive. It's a carnage.

The world isn't good. If there indeed will be a "Happy ending" at the end of human evolution, it will probably be preceeded by an "Apocalypse" that will wipe out most humans.

And since this "Apocalpyse" is likely to occur in the next 100 years, greed/evil was actually a means to get there faster.

At least that's how I see it. The worlds where humanity remains peaceful all along are probably rare, not typical. War, aggression drives innovation, peaceful development takes longer.

[FlashDangerpants]

The neanderthals had left Africa 450 thousand yrs before homo-sapiens, and lived in Europe all this time, in peaceful groups. (they never used weapons, or even threw objects, apparently)

What ridiculous bullshit, they lived on a diet of fresh meat.
Neanderthal hunting spears could kill at a distance

It's a fascinating subject, and i will publish more in the future, but i don't want to argue with you, not like Dangerpants and Age did and who totally f***ked up my original post about the meaning of life!!

Your theory, like any other, will be subject to scepticism, whether you learn to cope with that is your problem. You will just have to keep it secret if you are truly unwilling to be told it has problems. There are glaringly obvious issues with your theory, it is ill informed and bad. The worst of those is that it requires a telelogical understanding of evolution - which is paradoxical.

Don't announce yourself as a messiah if you can't take the heat that quite obviously invites.

[bahman]

"What, if any, is the purpose or Meaning of all Life?" - "Why are we here?" - "What doe's it all mean?"

Meaning is neither feeling nor thought. I think we are not mentally developed to perceive it.

[Sculptor]

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This is much smarter than your other posts.

[The Woodster]

The neanderthals had left Africa 450 thousand yrs before homo-sapiens, and lived in Europe all this time, in peaceful groups. (they never used weapons, or even threw objects, apparently)

What ridiculous bullshit, they lived on a diet of fresh meat.
Neanderthal hunting spears could kill at a distance

I don't know where you get your information, you obviously haven't read recent issues of 'New-Scientist' or 'BBC Science Focus'. According to them Neanderthals never developed projectile weapons, and recent analysis of their bone and muscle development also suggests that they never threw anything of great weight. They caught all their fresh meat by setting traps.
So who is bullshitting who??

[The Woodster]

Neanderthal hunting spears could kill at a distance

I read this link, so now i don't know who to believe, sorry about the last post - info about Neanderthals seems to change every month!

[FlashDangerpants]

Neanderthal hunting spears could kill at a distance

I read this link, so now i don't know who to believe, sorry about the last post - info about Neanderthals seems to change every month!

This is true. Perhaps there is a moral in there. Your theory depends upon a very contentious assumption about Neanderthals being hippies, there's really no evidence for it though. Worse, if there were, it would be based on analysis of incomplete bone fragments and liable to change on a weekly basis. In truth we know very little about Neanderthals, you have been filling in those gaps with a bit of fairy tale.