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Skepdick wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:29 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:21 pm I don't care if I am taken seriously or not, these are "interpretations" and those "tools" you keep referencing are strictly group agreed interpretations.
They are also the kind of 'interpretations' which meet this criterion:

Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth --Arthur Conan Doyle

If you keep mistaking impossible for improbable interpretations, you haven't calibrated your bullshit filter correctly just yet.
Actually probability theory necessitates all things as possible because of its scientific nature. Science is grounded in empiricism (time) thus observing not only a perpetual unproven element to reality but a necessary entropy of interpretations given a long enough time line considering a 99.99999...999 percent correct interpretation of reality further necessitates .00000...0001 chance of something different occuring relative to the interpretation with this .00000...0001 necessarily existing if the interpretation as probabilistic is to be true.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:36 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:21 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:27 pm
And I already told you ages ago that those "frameworks" with their "proofs" can be used to "prove" mutually exclusive claims, rendering them entirely worthless. Astrology is as capable of proving anything as any other of your voodoo frameworks is. Your entire body of evidence depends on instrumental irrationality.

If you want to be taken seriously, you will need to either use a proper tool to test your claims, or you must use proper tooling to validate the workings of those stupid witch sticks you used instead.

Dowsing rods aren't a technology for locating water or measuring electricity. They are an exquisite technology with which to locate a fucking idiot though, you just have to work backwards from the hands that hold them.
I don't care if I am taken seriously or not, these are "interpretations" and those "tools" you keep referencing are strictly group agreed interpretations (which are not really group agreed considering the majority of scientific theories, or rather "all", are strictly bandwagon interpretations of how "reality works".)

What you present is fallacious by nature.

And yes dowsing rods are/where a technology used historically for measuring the movements of water underground (which create an electrical field) and because they are a part of history (as well as the pyramids...obviously) they must be used as "a" framework of testing (not "the" framework of testing) considering the question of the purpose of the pyramids as well as their construction is subject to historical context.


You can resume fucking yourself while thinking of my ass.
You are palpably very concerned to be taken seriously, it's why you try so very very hard to look so clever. Everyone can smell your desperation, you reek of status anxiety.

Dowsing rods are not, and never have been, a technology for measuring anything at all, other than the gullibility of the fool holding the stick. It is no better a tool for finding water than tarot cards are one for predicting the future (a practice with plenty of history itself). They are no better for measuring the flow of subterranean streams than human sacrifices are as a tool for preventing the volcano gods getting angry (lots of history to that myth too).

Actual scientific methodologies resolve conflicting claims. Your pseudiferous claims about mutually exclusive "interpretations" merely demonstrate that your methodology is worthless.
I read something about status...ad-hominum.

Like I said before and considering you do not understand english:

1. The dowsing rods are one interpretation that must be used because of the historical context of how the pyramids where most likely built.
2. The experiment "cannot" be limited to dowsing rods alone and other means of interpretation must be applied.
3. The experiment, as I said multiple times, is incomplete and whatever "successes" where observed where within a given context and this context is relative.

The truth is you are just dumb. You thought me an logic where the same person. You are angry because you are a wannabe intellectual and cannot stand when someone bitch slaps you around...and yes that is an ad-hominum. But you see I threw in an argument with it...you may want to do the same.

You can resume being a bitch and jerking yourself off to my posts.

Wait let me save you your next response:

"You are wrong...blah...blah...blah...because dowsing rods are wrong...blah...blah...blah...because of...der...SCIENCE!!!!"

Me: What is science?

You: Der...SCIENCE...it is what people believe in!!!!




ROFL!!!!!!
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:39 pm Actually probability theory necessitates all things as possible because of its scientific nature.
Correct. Right now most scientists consider faster-than-light travel to be impossible. But there is non-zero probability that they are all wrong.

When you demonstrate how to travel faster than light - go and claim your Nobel prize. We need smart people like you.

The 1st time you do it - everybody will call you a bullshitter.
The 1st time somebody reproduces what you've done - you might just get taken seriously.

Me? I don't give a fuck about the Nobel prize. If I got around the 'laws' of causality - I would rape the stock market with my super-human predictive skills.
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Skepdick wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:49 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:39 pm Actually probability theory necessitates all things as possible because of its scientific nature.
Correct. Right now most scientists consider faster-than-light travel to be impossible. But there is non-zero probability that they are all wrong.

When you demonstrate how to travel faster than light - go and claim your Nobel prize. We need smart people like you.

The 1st time you do it - everybody will call you a bullshitter.
The 1st time somebody reproduces what you've done - you might just get taken seriously.

Me? I don't give a fuck about the Nobel prize. If I got around the 'laws' of causality - I would rape the stock market with my super-human predictive skills.
Yeah...I don't know why they keep bringing up "nobel prize" in their arguments...all I am arguing is that the pyramids are the physical representation of a philosophy, means of interpreting reality, we do not currently possess today...that is it.

Faster than light travel is possible if it can be proven that light behaves in multiple speeds, where one "light" is faster than another...but then we are left with "fast than light" fundamentally being a contradictory statement in nature where the definition of "light" must be reinterpreted in considering light=being where there are various grades of Light as there are of Being.

You see the philosophical quagmire?


If I got around the "laws" of causality...I would just chill out and relax...I wouldn't need money anymore...lol!
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:45 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:36 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:21 pm

I don't care if I am taken seriously or not, these are "interpretations" and those "tools" you keep referencing are strictly group agreed interpretations (which are not really group agreed considering the majority of scientific theories, or rather "all", are strictly bandwagon interpretations of how "reality works".)

What you present is fallacious by nature.

And yes dowsing rods are/where a technology used historically for measuring the movements of water underground (which create an electrical field) and because they are a part of history (as well as the pyramids...obviously) they must be used as "a" framework of testing (not "the" framework of testing) considering the question of the purpose of the pyramids as well as their construction is subject to historical context.


You can resume fucking yourself while thinking of my ass.
You are palpably very concerned to be taken seriously, it's why you try so very very hard to look so clever. Everyone can smell your desperation, you reek of status anxiety.

Dowsing rods are not, and never have been, a technology for measuring anything at all, other than the gullibility of the fool holding the stick. It is no better a tool for finding water than tarot cards are one for predicting the future (a practice with plenty of history itself). They are no better for measuring the flow of subterranean streams than human sacrifices are as a tool for preventing the volcano gods getting angry (lots of history to that myth too).

Actual scientific methodologies resolve conflicting claims. Your pseudiferous claims about mutually exclusive "interpretations" merely demonstrate that your methodology is worthless.
I read something about status...ad-hominum.
Did you write some while ago that you intend to gain a Masters in Philosophy? Sadly, if you don't learn basics like the difference between an insult and an ad-hominem, there's little hope for you to succeed in that endeavor.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:45 pm Like I said before and considering you do not understand english:

1. The dowsing rods are one interpretation that must be used because of the historical context of how the pyramids where most likely built.
2. The experiment "cannot" be limited to dowsing rods alone and other means of interpretation must be applied.
3. The experiment, as I said multiple times, is incomplete and whatever "successes" where observed where within a given context and this context is relative.
Tarot cards are just as much "an interpretation" as dowsing rods are.
Little bracelets to ward off the evil eye are too.
Human sacrifice has a historical context. Many priests have claimed that their murders have prevented plagues and storms, and this is an interpretation that is just as good as your magic witchcraft sticks.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:45 pm The truth is you are just dumb. You thought me an logic where the same person. You are angry because you are a wannabe intellectual and cannot stand when someone bitch slaps you around...and yes that is an ad-hominum. But you see I threw in an argument with it...you may want to do the same.
It wasn't me that thought you two were the same person.
You can fantasise about bitch slapping me if you like, I'll let you know if you ever manage that.
That's also not an ad-hominem, you clearly don't know what the concept refers to.
You may need to acquire a more sophisticated understanding of what constitutes an argument as well.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:45 pm ROFL!!!!!!
Aside from the bitch slapping thing, and your inability to understand what an ad-hominem is, you also need assistance understanding when something funny has been written.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:03 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:45 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:36 pm
You are palpably very concerned to be taken seriously, it's why you try so very very hard to look so clever. Everyone can smell your desperation, you reek of status anxiety.

Dowsing rods are not, and never have been, a technology for measuring anything at all, other than the gullibility of the fool holding the stick. It is no better a tool for finding water than tarot cards are one for predicting the future (a practice with plenty of history itself). They are no better for measuring the flow of subterranean streams than human sacrifices are as a tool for preventing the volcano gods getting angry (lots of history to that myth too).

Actual scientific methodologies resolve conflicting claims. Your pseudiferous claims about mutually exclusive "interpretations" merely demonstrate that your methodology is worthless.
I read something about status...ad-hominum.
Did you write some while ago that you intend to gain a Masters in Philosophy? Sadly, if you don't learn basics like the difference between an insult and an ad-hominem, there's little hope for you to succeed in that endeavor.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:45 pm Like I said before and considering you do not understand english:

1. The dowsing rods are one interpretation that must be used because of the historical context of how the pyramids where most likely built.
2. The experiment "cannot" be limited to dowsing rods alone and other means of interpretation must be applied.
3. The experiment, as I said multiple times, is incomplete and whatever "successes" where observed where within a given context and this context is relative.
Tarot cards are just as much "an interpretation" as dowsing rods are.
Little bracelets to ward off the evil eye are too.
Human sacrifice has a historical context. Many priests have claimed that their murders have prevented plagues and storms, and this is an interpretation that is just as good as your magic witchcraft sticks.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:45 pm The truth is you are just dumb. You thought me an logic where the same person. You are angry because you are a wannabe intellectual and cannot stand when someone bitch slaps you around...and yes that is an ad-hominum. But you see I threw in an argument with it...you may want to do the same.
It wasn't me that thought you two were the same person.
You can fantasise about bitch slapping me if you like, I'll let you know if you ever manage that.
That's also not an ad-hominem, you clearly don't know what the concept refers to.
You may need to acquire a more sophisticated understanding of what constitutes an argument as well.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:45 pm ROFL!!!!!!
Aside from the bitch slapping thing, and your inability to understand what an ad-hominem is, you also need assistance understanding when something funny has been written.
"Smell your desperation" is avoiding the argument in an effort to attack the character of the individual.

Please continuing fucking yourself.

With that note in mind...what do you contribute here that has any value whatsoever? And this is a legitimate question...it is not an insult. What do you write about here? Give me a link or something...I honestly do not know because I never bothered reading it. Give me some grounding as to what your "stance" is or even if you have one.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:09 pm "Smell your desperation" is avoiding the argument in an effort to attack the character of the individual.
That's still not what an ad-hominem actually is.

I'd be tempted to give you some leeway anyhow if I had been avoiding the issue at hand. But you are trying to use insults to divert me away from the fact that tarot cards are another example of a framework with historical and unscientific uses that makes claims just as legitimate as the ones you make for your little witchy sticks. So you are just a self-basting turkey right now.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:09 pm With that note in mind...what do you contribute here that has any value whatsoever? And this is a legitimate question...it is not an insult. What do you write about here? Give me a link or something...I honestly do not know because I never bothered reading it. Give me some grounding as to what your "stance" is or even if you have one.
I've written lots on this forum. My basic attitudes are fairly consistent across all that. What would be the point of linking you to things though, when you have a confessed tendency not to read them and an observable inability to assess your own competence?

I guess I can fill you in on some of the major themes though. I don't like badly constructed arguments. And I don't at all approve of pissants with no understanding of the basics of electing themselves to be epoch setting grand masters of the form. I am pretty much your antithesis.
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Wow! Have they let you back out again!

I can't believe you've decided to bump this thread once again, are you not aware of what an idiot it makes you look?
Eodnhoj7 wrote:Congratulations....I just read that whole sentence. ...
Phew! Must have been difficult for you. Well done.
Should have worn my tin-foil hat first though.
:lol: Glad you admit you have one.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:02 pm
Skepdick wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:49 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:39 pm Actually probability theory necessitates all things as possible because of its scientific nature.
Correct. Right now most scientists consider faster-than-light travel to be impossible. But there is non-zero probability that they are all wrong.

When you demonstrate how to travel faster than light - go and claim your Nobel prize. We need smart people like you.

The 1st time you do it - everybody will call you a bullshitter.
The 1st time somebody reproduces what you've done - you might just get taken seriously.

Me? I don't give a fuck about the Nobel prize. If I got around the 'laws' of causality - I would rape the stock market with my super-human predictive skills.
Yeah...I don't know why they keep bringing up "nobel prize" in their arguments...all I am arguing is that the pyramids are the physical representation of a philosophy, means of interpreting reality, we do not currently possess today...that is it.

Faster than light travel is possible if it can be proven that light behaves in multiple speeds, where one "light" is faster than another...but then we are left with "fast than light" fundamentally being a contradictory statement in nature where the definition of "light" must be reinterpreted in considering light=being where there are various grades of Light as there are of Being.

You see the philosophical quagmire?


If I got around the "laws" of causality...I would just chill out and relax...I wouldn't need money anymore...lol!
See how you miss this bit - "The 1st time somebody reproduces what you've done - you might just get taken seriously."?
That's called selective reading. :lol:
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Eodnhoj7 wrote:...
1. The dowsing rods are one interpretation that must be used because of the historical context of how the pyramids where most likely built. ...
Give us the links that support this claim? As what is apparent is that the pyramids were planned using the rope method for right-angles.
2. The experiment "cannot" be limited to dowsing rods alone and other means of interpretation must be applied. ...
Such as?
3. The experiment, as I said multiple times, is incomplete and whatever "successes" where observed where within a given context and this context is relative. ...
And as we've told you repeatedly, you don't even have an 'experiment' as the tools you are using have not been tested to do the job you claim them to do.
The truth is you are just dumb. You thought me an logic where the same person. ...
You need to be careful calling others dumb when you don't know the difference between "where" and "were" and "an" and "and".
...You: Der...SCIENCE...it is what people believe in!!!!

ROFL!!!!!!
Er!? No, 'Der SCIENCE' are the methods that people have agreed produce neutral testable repeatable experimental results, something your 'experiments' would fail to do if you ever implemented the scientific method upon them.

By the by, do you know what an exclamation mark sounds like? As your use of them makes you sound like the loony you are.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:02 pm If I got around the "laws" of causality...I would just chill out and relax...I wouldn't need money anymore...lol!
Why can't you chill out and relax now?

If you got around the "laws" of causality - the Nobel prize is the most you are going to get paid for it. It's a million dollars, or some such insignificant amount in the course of a human lifetime. Definitely not enough to "chill and relax" for the rest of your life.

Discovering things doesn't pay well, unless you also commercialise your discovery.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:26 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:09 pm "Smell your desperation" is avoiding the argument in an effort to attack the character of the individual.
That's still not what an ad-hominem actually is.

I'd be tempted to give you some leeway anyhow if I had been avoiding the issue at hand. But you are trying to use insults to divert me away from the fact that tarot cards are another example of a framework with historical and unscientific uses that makes claims just as legitimate as the ones you make for your little witchy sticks. So you are just a self-basting turkey right now.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:09 pm With that note in mind...what do you contribute here that has any value whatsoever? And this is a legitimate question...it is not an insult. What do you write about here? Give me a link or something...I honestly do not know because I never bothered reading it. Give me some grounding as to what your "stance" is or even if you have one.
I've written lots on this forum. My basic attitudes are fairly consistent across all that. What would be the point of linking you to things though, when you have a confessed tendency not to read them and an observable inability to assess your own competence?

I guess I can fill you in on some of the major themes though. I don't like badly constructed arguments. And I don't at all approve of pissants with no understanding of the basics of electing themselves to be epoch setting grand masters of the form. I am pretty much your antithesis.
False, you are projecting your status.

I am claiming the boundaries of a now old experiment and that it needs further testing due to incompleteness. You keep going after the fact I used dousing rods, when I clearly stated stated that the experiment cannot be limited to dousing rods however they are required because of the historical context of usage...again "historical context" is necessary because whether you believe in them in or not, they are used historically.

They are "a" context, not the context.

The dousing rod thing has been way over beaten.

And third, I still don't know what you contribute. I never put any value to what threads you start, if you started any at all, so please provide a link so I can see the angle from which you are coming from.
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Arising_uk wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:16 pm Wow! Have they let you back out again!

I can't believe you've decided to bump this thread once again, are you not aware of what an idiot it makes you look?
Eodnhoj7 wrote:Congratulations....I just read that whole sentence. ...
Phew! Must have been difficult for you. Well done.
Should have worn my tin-foil hat first though.
:lol: Glad you admit you have one.
Thanks for bumping the thread with your responses.
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Arising_uk wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:36 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:02 pm
Skepdick wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:49 pm
Correct. Right now most scientists consider faster-than-light travel to be impossible. But there is non-zero probability that they are all wrong.

When you demonstrate how to travel faster than light - go and claim your Nobel prize. We need smart people like you.

The 1st time you do it - everybody will call you a bullshitter.
The 1st time somebody reproduces what you've done - you might just get taken seriously.

Me? I don't give a fuck about the Nobel prize. If I got around the 'laws' of causality - I would rape the stock market with my super-human predictive skills.
Yeah...I don't know why they keep bringing up "nobel prize" in their arguments...all I am arguing is that the pyramids are the physical representation of a philosophy, means of interpreting reality, we do not currently possess today...that is it.

Faster than light travel is possible if it can be proven that light behaves in multiple speeds, where one "light" is faster than another...but then we are left with "fast than light" fundamentally being a contradictory statement in nature where the definition of "light" must be reinterpreted in considering light=being where there are various grades of Light as there are of Being.

You see the philosophical quagmire?


If I got around the "laws" of causality...I would just chill out and relax...I wouldn't need money anymore...lol!
See how you miss this bit - "The 1st time somebody reproduces what you've done - you might just get taken seriously."?
That's called selective reading. :lol:
Yeah....that is because the experiment is new. I post it so people can reproduce it from other angles.

And second the thread is about the pyramid being a physical projection of an abstract philosophy...you keep talking about dousing rods and bringing noble prizes.
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Arising_uk wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:46 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote:...
1. The dowsing rods are one interpretation that must be used because of the historical context of how the pyramids where most likely built. ...
Give us the links that support this claim? As what is apparent is that the pyramids were planned using the rope method for right-angles.
2. The experiment "cannot" be limited to dowsing rods alone and other means of interpretation must be applied. ...
Such as?
3. The experiment, as I said multiple times, is incomplete and whatever "successes" where observed where within a given context and this context is relative. ...
And as we've told you repeatedly, you don't even have an 'experiment' as the tools you are using have not been tested to do the job you claim them to do.
The truth is you are just dumb. You thought me an logic where the same person. ...
You need to be careful calling others dumb when you don't know the difference between "where" and "were" and "an" and "and".
...You: Der...SCIENCE...it is what people believe in!!!!

ROFL!!!!!!
Er!? No, 'Der SCIENCE' are the methods that people have agreed produce neutral testable repeatable experimental results, something your 'experiments' would fail to do if you ever implemented the scientific method upon them.

By the by, do you know what an exclamation mark sounds like? As your use of them makes you sound like the loony you are.
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