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[Immanuel Can]

The philosophical definition of "determinism" is idiotic.

A "definition" is not "testable/falsifiable." It's analytic, not synthetic. It doesn't ask for your approval or respond to disapproval, it just is what it is.

I think you're on the wrong website, honestly; you don't like philosophy or philosophical terms, apparently. I hope you find one that pleases you more.

Happy trails.

[Univalence]

A "definition" is not "testable/falsifiable." It's analytic, not synthetic. It doesn't ask for your approval or respond to disapproval, it just is what it is.

A claim about reality that doesn't elucidate some way to be resolved empirically is completely useless - that's what it is. It's not valid/invalid - it's meaningless.

And so I've taken the liberty to re-define the concept in line with empiricism.

I think you're on the wrong website, honestly; you don't like philosophy or philosophical terms, apparently. I hope you find one that pleases you more.

If philosophy is the love of wisdom, then this is not a philosophy forum and you aren't a philosopher.

If your terms/definitions lead you away from wisdom and towards ignorance - you should probably change them.

[Immanuel Can]

I've taken the liberty to re-define the concept

Indeed you have -- and redefined it as its opposite. Unfortunately, the whole value of a definition is that others share it. If they don't, then they cannot possibly understand you as you would wish to be understood.

However, it's up to you.

[Univalence]

Indeed you have -- and redefined it as its opposite. Unfortunately, the whole value of a definition is that others share it. If they don't, then they cannot possibly understand you as you would wish to be understood.

You over-exaggerate the significance of this. I have made it perfectly clear to you how I use the word.

And you still insist on talking about MY (individual) choices being pre-determined - as if that has any bearing on statistical methods.

The law of large numbers is on my side on such matters.
You are arguing anecdotally.

[Immanuel Can]

...you still insist on talking about MY (individual) choices being pre-determined ...

Nope. I'm not a Determinist. It was your idea to (ab-)use the word. I take no ownership of it.

[Univalence]

Nope. I'm not a Determinist. It was your idea to (ab-)use the word. I take no ownership of it.

determine
verb
1.
cause (something) to occur in a particular way or to have a particular nature.
"it will be her mental attitude that determines her future"
synonyms: control, decide, regulate, direct, rule, dictate, govern, condition, form, shape; More

I am not abusing the word. I am using it exactly like non-philosophers use it.

[Immanuel Can]

But you are an absolutist. If you can't see how determinism is not incompatible with free will.

I'm not an "absolutist," if you mean by using that word what ordinary people think it means. Britannica: "Absolutism, the political doctrine and practice of unlimited centralized authority and absolute sovereignty, as vested especially in a monarch or dictator."

I'm also not a Determinist.

So nothing of what you say follows from anything I've said. You'll have to speak to someone else, if you want to make that point.

[Immanuel Can]

Nope. I'm not a Determinist. It was your idea to (ab-)use the word. I take no ownership of it.

determine

You forgot the "-ist" part. That's why you got confused.

"-ist" indicates an ideology, and that ideology holds that outside forces do the "determining," not you.

[Univalence]

Nope. I'm not a Determinist. It was your idea to (ab-)use the word. I take no ownership of it.

determine

You forgot the "-ist" part. That's why you got confused.

"-ist" indicates an ideology, and that ideology holds that outside forces do the "determining," not you.

Yep. You are completely unable to think for yourself....

Logocentrism is the death of intellect...

[Immanuel Can]

You are completely unable to think for yourself....

That is indeed what Determinism ultimately implies. But as I say, I'm not one of them.

[Univalence]

You are completely unable to think for yourself....

That is indeed what Determinism ultimately implies. But as I say, I'm not one of them.

You offer absolutely no evidence to back up your claim.

-1- claimed to be an atheist but was arguing for an omniscient being.

So you would have to forgive me if I judge your actions and ignore your words.

Then again... they aren’t even your words. You are using other people’s definitions.

[Immanuel Can]

You offer absolutely no evidence to back up your claim.

Umm...I...didn't make a claim. I have no idea what "evidence" you would be expecting.

I'm afraid I'm not finding your conversation style comprehensible. I think we'll go back to the original topic, and I'll continue with others.

[Univalence]

Umm...I...didn't make a claim. I have no idea what "evidence" you would be expecting.

Of course you did. "I am not an X" is a claim about reality. You are real, aren't you?
And so any claims you make about yourself are subject to empiricism.

And falsification.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

You offer absolutely no evidence to back up your claim.

Umm...I...didn't make a claim. I have no idea what "evidence" you would be expecting.

I'm afraid I'm not finding your conversation style comprehensible. I think we'll go back to the original topic, and I'll continue with others.

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Immanuel Can

I'm content. Others can assess our arguments. Thanks.

In my assessment, Immanuel Can, your arguments reflect those of a complete fanatic devout theist piece of shit. The contents of your arguments are pieces of shit, too. I'm content with that.

FYI, there is religionism and there is religionism. The proper way to practice religion in my opinion, and which I support and will never attack, is in its spirit, which basically teaches to show respect, supportiveness and empathy for fellow humans and for god. Fanatics carry the word of god, as it were, far from these principles.

For the reason of your apparent fanaticism I've put you on iggie a long time ago. I don't know why other sane ones squander their sanity on you. Reasonable arguments and logical thinking as retorts to your evil and grotesquely cruel claims and opinions are completely wasted on you.

The reason I had a glimpse into your mind again and into your thinking is that I read the responses to your quoted arguments.