Does a pregnant woman carry a human being/person or just 'life'/meat?

[Belinda]

"Her foetus is part of a woman's body."

Well, the fetus is 'in' her, is fed by her, but is not her.

Her foetus is part of her body until it's born same as any other female mammal. I can tell you this from a position of authority as I have borne two children, and you are only a man.

[henry quirk]

They grew inside you, but they were not 'you'.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

HYPOCRITE

[Belinda]

Henry Quirk wrote:

They grew inside you, but they were not 'you'.

I was there at the time and I experienced that my unborn children were parts of me parts of my own body. You cannot possibly know this experience because you are a man. As a man your opinion is void and useless.

[henry quirk]

"HYPOCRITE"

bitch cow

[henry quirk]

"I was there at the time and I experienced that my unborn children were parts of me parts of my own body."

The egg was yours, part of you in exactly the same way the sperm was the Dad's.

But, the moment half of your DNA linked up with half of the Dad's, sumthin' new was formed: it originated with you and the Dad, but it wasn't 'you' or 'him'. In a very real sense: you were an incubator (not an owner).

I have no doubt you experienced all manner of sensations: quite irrelevant when it comes to the matter of what was and was not 'you'.

And: playin' the 'woman card' is beneath you, B. That's the kinda crap I expect from that silly cow, veg. You're better than that.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

HYPOCRITE

[henry quirk]

moo

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I like cows, but no one likes weird little hypocrites.

[Belinda]

Yes Henry a man a man cannot trump that mother woman card. if capitalism continues in the same direction males will be kept for reproduction purposes only. All this Alabama nonsense is evidence of the final struggle of male capitalism.

[henry quirk]

"weird little hypocrite"

yep

[henry quirk]

"Yes Henry a man a man cannot trump that mother woman card. if capitalism continues in the same direction males will be kept for reproduction purposes only. All this Alabama nonsense is evidence of the final struggle of male capitalism."

That's so loony it may come to pass. If so: ride 'em *cowgirl!









*that there is a 'position'

[gaffo]

Thanks for playin', bro.

you are welcome Sir. now no longer playing in this circus thread.

[gaffo]

Henry Quirk wrote:

They grew inside you, but they were not 'you'.

I was there at the time and I experienced that my unborn children were parts of me parts of my own body. You cannot possibly know this experience because you are a man. As a man your opinion is void and useless.

ok, broke my promise to myself to ignore Red Meat bullshit.

but i call out bullshit when i read it.

........

your child had 1/2 of your DNA when you carried it - so it was not all you, it was 1/2 you.

secondly, science is a great thing, soon it will be possible for men to carry a kid via adominal wall.

........
and finally, if you know about DNA - science will eventually allow one - male or female - to self bore a child.

gamete cells have 1/2 of DNA - so two sperm or too eggs from the same person is all that is needed (and science of course) - to allow "Self without need of another" birth of their own child.

I can make my own child from me and myself, with the help of science (eventually).

all i need is a woman's egg - suck its DNA out - inject the DNA of one of my sperm, the fertilize it with another one of my sperm, then implant it into my abdomen (or some host - human/animal/synthetic).............any/all are good if it allows my child to be born.

result is a child born from me, myself and I.

[gaffo]

As a man your opinion is void and useless.

nice viewpoint Madam.

not.