Einstein on the train

[Age]

Are there thoughts within that body ?
Is there a Mind within that body ?

If yes to both of these then one can be FAIRLY certain that these things actually exist even though they can NOT be seen with the physical eyes
They can however be SEEN with and by the Minds EYE AND UNDERSTOOD and KNOWN by this Mind

If however the answer is no to either or both of these questions then maybe that you is NOT prepared to LOOK AT and STUDY these things

Brain activity can be detected under an MRI scanner so thoughts can be seen

Does 'brain activity' equate to 'thoughts' always?

And, what do 'thoughts' LOOK LIKE, and can 'WHAT' the actual thought IS be seen?

But language is the product of thought so even without MRI evidence it is definitely certain that they exist not fairly certain

So, that comes exactly back to what I have been saying.

There is a mind within every functioning body because mind is a function of the brain but if there is also a Mind I cannot say

'mind being a function of a brain' is a human made up concept, and what you agree with and accept is true. You have also stated that you will NOT change this definition, which is just fine with me. But this perception does NOT fit in with the 'bigger' picture that I SEE, which, I SAY, is the WHOLE picture, or the actual and real Truth of things.

[Logik]

Ever heard that there are NO actual problems in Life, and that ONLY human beings MAKE UP 'problems'?

Would you say it's the human mind or the human brain that makes up problems?

WHY would ask me such a question when you ALREADY KNOW my VIEW on the Mind?

I am asking you this clarifying question because you mistakenly believe that I know what your view on the Mind is.

I don't know what your view is. I am not a mind-reader.

[surreptitious57]

mind being a function of a brain is a human made up concept and what you agree with and accept is true. You have also stated that you will
NOT change this definition which is just fine with me. But this perception does NOT fit in with the bigger picture that I SEE which I SAY is the
WHOLE picture or the actual and real Truth of things

If Mind is another word for God then I dont accept it because I dont believe in God
But if it is another word for Universe then I do accept it because it obviously exists

[Atla]

You are the ONE that stated "we" ARE DEFINITE about some thing. NOT me.

Also, in case you are yet unaware, some people use the"we" word in an ATTEMPT to TRY TO "justify" that their own BELIEFS are somehow correct. Just like what YOU just did.

Because of your total lack of ability to clarify my question the "we" in your statement could refer to you and your self ONLY. Considering your statement proposes 100% absolute DEFINITE certainty, then the chances that that "we" refers to any one else besides YOU only, is only getting slimmer all the time.

YOU can't make sense of what people write even though it's pretty clear

If you want to work on yourself and try to fix your schizophrenic thought patterns, then my suggestion is to learn the cognitive restructuring techniques in this book and apply them https://www.amazon.com/Feeling-Good-New ... 0380810336 you seem to have all the time in the world anyway. It was mainly designed against depression but can be used for broken psychotic thought patterns as well. But a philosophy forum is not a free therapy session.

Well you seem to like giving out free diagnoses with plenty of free advice.

But you rarely, if ever, respond to what I have ACTUALLY POINTED OUT and SHOWN. One example is in this very quote here: In just one post of yours you write that you/we are DEFINITE about some thing, but later on in the exact same post that nothing is ever 100% DEFINITE. So, if you just want to completely TRYING TO deflect away from THAT and just keep looking at ME, then feel FREE to keep going in that direction. Your actions, obviously, speak a lot CLEARER than your words do.

What you have shown is that you don't comrehend ordinary human language, for example you think that I wrote the first time that I'm 100% definite about something. That's pretty bad, especially after I already tried to beat it into you many times that obviously nothing is ever 100% definite.
You've shown your deficiencies like a hundred times to me, that's why I suggested cognitive restructuring.

[Age]

Would you say it's the human mind or the human brain that makes up problems?

WHY would ask me such a question when you ALREADY KNOW my VIEW on the Mind?

I am asking you this clarifying question because you mistakenly believe that I know what your view on the Mind is.

1. You could NOT have asked me that clarifying question, BECAUSE I mistook that you knew what my view of the Mind is, BECAUSE you only just found out this fact from me. You ONLY realized this AFTER you asked that clarifying question. So, what you wrote here is WRONG, AGAIN.

2. I neither believe nor disbelieve any thing.

3. Just like I have told you countless times ALREADY that I NEITHER BELIEVE NOR DISBELIEVE ANY THING, AND, you can NOT or WILL NOT understand that and so you just keep writing what you BELIEVE is true, which I have told you many times is completely and utterly WRONG, you ALSO either do NOT accept, or just plainly keep forgetting, what I have actually written numerous times already about what the Mind actually IS.

I don't know what your view is.

Well you should KNOW what my view is about what the Mind IS, because if I recall correctly you have responded to this particular view a number of times before already.

I am not a mind-reader.

Well you appear to be, that, what you call a "mind-reader", because you are now saying in this post that you were asking me a clarifying question because of a particular reason, which that reason only came to light and thus you became AWARE OF only AFTER the question was asked and I had then responded.

HOW did you, "supposedly", knew that I mistakenly "believed" that you knew what my view of what the Mind IS, BEFORE you even asked the clarifying question?

What could even make such a thought arise in that body?

[Age]

mind being a function of a brain is a human made up concept and what you agree with and accept is true. You have also stated that you will
NOT change this definition which is just fine with me. But this perception does NOT fit in with the bigger picture that I SEE which I SAY is the
WHOLE picture or the actual and real Truth of things

If Mind is another word for God then I dont accept it because I dont believe in God

But you have told me previously that you do NOT do BELIEF. But here you are now saying that you do DISBELIEF. NOT BELIEVING some thing has the EXACT SAME effect of STOPPING the actual and real Truth from coming to light, be discovered, and/or revealed just as much as BELIEVING some thing does.

But if it is another word for Universe then I do accept it because it obviously exists

To me, there is NO word that is another word for some thing else. By definition each word has its own distinct definition or definitions. If one work is another word, then one of those words is completely redundant.

To me, the words 'Mind', 'God', and 'Universe' have their own distinct different definitions, which when these specific definitions are LOOKED AT, questioned and challenged, then they, ALL together, form a picture-perfect VIEW of things.

[Age]

YOU can't make sense of what people write even though it's pretty clear

If you want to work on yourself and try to fix your schizophrenic thought patterns, then my suggestion is to learn the cognitive restructuring techniques in this book and apply them https://www.amazon.com/Feeling-Good-New ... 0380810336 you seem to have all the time in the world anyway. It was mainly designed against depression but can be used for broken psychotic thought patterns as well. But a philosophy forum is not a free therapy session.

Well you seem to like giving out free diagnoses with plenty of free advice.

But you rarely, if ever, respond to what I have ACTUALLY POINTED OUT and SHOWN. One example is in this very quote here: In just one post of yours you write that you/we are DEFINITE about some thing, but later on in the exact same post that nothing is ever 100% DEFINITE. So, if you just want to completely TRYING TO deflect away from THAT and just keep looking at ME, then feel FREE to keep going in that direction. Your actions, obviously, speak a lot CLEARER than your words do.

What you have shown is that you don't comrehend ordinary human language, for example you think that I wrote the first time that I'm 100% definite about something.

Are you 100% definitely certain that you did NOT?

You did, after all, write: Based on everything we know about the world, there is definitely no such mind's eye. So, when you said "definitely" here did you mean 100%, or less than 100%? The word "definitely" if you were unsure does mean and bring with it a connotation of 100%, some times.

That's pretty bad, especially after I already tried to beat it into you many times that obviously nothing is ever 100% definite.

Just because you repeatedly TRY some thing, than, in itself, does NOT mean it is true, right, or correct.

You did, after all, also write: This is totally not the "actual truth" you moron. So, when you say "totally" do mean 100%, or less than 100%? The word "totally" if you were unsure, does mean and bring with it a connotation of 100%, some times.

So, this is just two examples of when you appear to be saying things with 100% definite certainty.

Now, you can write like you are absolutely sure of some things and propose them as being 100% definitely true, AND THEN say that "obviously nothing is ever 100% definite". But, if some thing appears contradictory to me, then I will POINT IT OUT, and question it, for clarity. If, however, you can NOT or WILL NOT clarify, and TRY and deflect away from what I have been POINTING OUT and SHOWING, then that is another matter, which to some I have just brought to light, and SHOWN.

Just MAYBE who is NOT comprehending "ordinary" human language is NOT the that one you THINK it is? Just some thing to consider and THINK about more.

You've shown your deficiencies like a hundred times to me, that's why I suggested cognitive restructuring.

Part of the human conditioning, which is obviously wrong, is people are created SEEING things that are actually NOT even there. Therefore, when you say I have SHOWN you some thing, "like a hundred times" or even once, the Truth MIGHT BE that what you are SEEING is actually NOT even here. It may well be, but, if you were Truly Honest with your self, then it MIGHT NOT BE, also. Only when, and IF, you are Truly OPEN, then you will SEE what the actual Truth IS.

[Atla]

Well you seem to like giving out free diagnoses with plenty of free advice.

But you rarely, if ever, respond to what I have ACTUALLY POINTED OUT and SHOWN. One example is in this very quote here: In just one post of yours you write that you/we are DEFINITE about some thing, but later on in the exact same post that nothing is ever 100% DEFINITE. So, if you just want to completely TRYING TO deflect away from THAT and just keep looking at ME, then feel FREE to keep going in that direction. Your actions, obviously, speak a lot CLEARER than your words do.

What you have shown is that you don't comrehend ordinary human language, for example you think that I wrote the first time that I'm 100% definite about something.

Are you 100% definitely certain that you did NOT?

You did, after all, write: Based on everything we know about the world, there is definitely no such mind's eye. So, when you said "definitely" here did you mean 100%, or less than 100%? The word "definitely" if you were unsure does mean and bring with it a connotation of 100%, some times.

That's pretty bad, especially after I already tried to beat it into you many times that obviously nothing is ever 100% definite.

Just because you repeatedly TRY some thing, than, in itself, does NOT mean it is true, right, or correct.

You did, after all, also write: This is totally not the "actual truth" you moron. So, when you say "totally" do mean 100%, or less than 100%? The word "totally" if you were unsure, does mean and bring with it a connotation of 100%, some times.

So, this is just two examples of when you appear to be saying things with 100% definite certainty.

Now, you can write like you are absolutely sure of some things and propose them as being 100% definitely true, AND THEN say that "obviously nothing is ever 100% definite". But, if some thing appears contradictory to me, then I will POINT IT OUT, and question it, for clarity. If, however, you can NOT or WILL NOT clarify, and TRY and deflect away from what I have been POINTING OUT and SHOWING, then that is another matter, which to some I have just brought to light, and SHOWN.

Just MAYBE who is NOT comprehending "ordinary" human language is NOT the that one you THINK it is? Just some thing to consider and THINK about more.

You've shown your deficiencies like a hundred times to me, that's why I suggested cognitive restructuring.

Part of the human conditioning, which is obviously wrong, is people are created SEEING things that are actually NOT even there. Therefore, when you say I have SHOWN you some thing, "like a hundred times" or even once, the Truth MIGHT BE that what you are SEEING is actually NOT even here. It may well be, but, if you were Truly Honest with your self, then it MIGHT NOT BE, also. Only when, and IF, you are Truly OPEN, then you will SEE what the actual Truth IS.

For the 101th time: you are the one who doesn't get it.
There is also no 100% certain "actual truth", you are simply insane.

[Age]

What you have shown is that you don't comrehend ordinary human language, for example you think that I wrote the first time that I'm 100% definite about something.

Are you 100% definitely certain that you did NOT?

You did, after all, write: Based on everything we know about the world, there is definitely no such mind's eye. So, when you said "definitely" here did you mean 100%, or less than 100%? The word "definitely" if you were unsure does mean and bring with it a connotation of 100%, some times.

That's pretty bad, especially after I already tried to beat it into you many times that obviously nothing is ever 100% definite.

Just because you repeatedly TRY some thing, than, in itself, does NOT mean it is true, right, or correct.

You did, after all, also write: This is totally not the "actual truth" you moron. So, when you say "totally" do mean 100%, or less than 100%? The word "totally" if you were unsure, does mean and bring with it a connotation of 100%, some times.

So, this is just two examples of when you appear to be saying things with 100% definite certainty.

Now, you can write like you are absolutely sure of some things and propose them as being 100% definitely true, AND THEN say that "obviously nothing is ever 100% definite". But, if some thing appears contradictory to me, then I will POINT IT OUT, and question it, for clarity. If, however, you can NOT or WILL NOT clarify, and TRY and deflect away from what I have been POINTING OUT and SHOWING, then that is another matter, which to some I have just brought to light, and SHOWN.

Just MAYBE who is NOT comprehending "ordinary" human language is NOT the that one you THINK it is? Just some thing to consider and THINK about more.

You've shown your deficiencies like a hundred times to me, that's why I suggested cognitive restructuring.

Part of the human conditioning, which is obviously wrong, is people are created SEEING things that are actually NOT even there. Therefore, when you say I have SHOWN you some thing, "like a hundred times" or even once, the Truth MIGHT BE that what you are SEEING is actually NOT even here. It may well be, but, if you were Truly Honest with your self, then it MIGHT NOT BE, also. Only when, and IF, you are Truly OPEN, then you will SEE what the actual Truth IS.

For the 101th time: you are the one who doesn't get it.
There is also no 100% certain "actual truth", you are simply insane.

Have you been thinking that i have been saying that?

If yes, WHY?
If no, then WHY are you repeatedly repeating this?

After all it is YOU whi has been saying that some things are 100% certain actual truth, NOT me. As EVIDENCED by what you have actually written, which I have just POINTED OUT.

[Atla]

After all it is YOU whi has been saying that some things are 100% certain actual truth

I very clearly and explicitly stated the opposite of this many times.

I think it's fair to conclude then that you are a liar.

[Age]

After all it is YOU whi has been saying that some things are 100% certain actual truth

I very clearly and explicitly stated the opposite of this many times.

I think it's fair to conclude then that you are a liar.

What the Truth actually IS is there in the EVIDENCE, which has ALREADY been POINTED OUT, by me.

If you want to IGNORE that, then that is your choice.

Also, OF COURSE you have explicitly stated the opposite many times BUT you have also STATED what I have POINTED OUT, that is; you BELIEVE you KNOW some things with absolute certainty. The proof is in YOUR words.

[Atla]

After all it is YOU whi has been saying that some things are 100% certain actual truth

I very clearly and explicitly stated the opposite of this many times.

I think it's fair to conclude then that you are a liar.

What the Truth actually IS is there in the EVIDENCE, which has ALREADY been POINTED OUT, by me.

If you want to IGNORE that, then that is your choice.

Also, OF COURSE you have explicitly stated the opposite many times BUT you have also STATED what I have POINTED OUT, that is; you BELIEVE you KNOW some things with absolute certainty. The proof is in YOUR words.

Then quote where I wrote that I know some things with absolute certainty.
If you still think that "definitely" meant absolute certainty then you need cognitive therapy, or you need to be locked away for good, as I already pointed out.
You need to lie or hurt others in order to protect your own selfish insanity, it seems.

[Age]

I very clearly and explicitly stated the opposite of this many times.

I think it's fair to conclude then that you are a liar.

What the Truth actually IS is there in the EVIDENCE, which has ALREADY been POINTED OUT, by me.

If you want to IGNORE that, then that is your choice.

Also, OF COURSE you have explicitly stated the opposite many times BUT you have also STATED what I have POINTED OUT, that is; you BELIEVE you KNOW some things with absolute certainty. The proof is in YOUR words.

Then quote where I wrote that I know some things with absolute certainty.

I have ALREADY, underlined in above posts of mine.

If you still think that "definitely" meant absolute certainty then you need cognitive therapy, or you need to be locked away for good, as I already pointed out.

Until you TELL us what you meant when you wrote the word 'definetely', I will keeping thinking. If you will NOT clarify your own writings, then what do you want me to think?

Do NOT forget to clarify the 'totally' word also, which YOU have also used.

You need to lie or hurt others in order to protect your own selfish insanity, it seems.

Did I 'hurt' you?

[Atla]

What the Truth actually IS is there in the EVIDENCE, which has ALREADY been POINTED OUT, by me.

If you want to IGNORE that, then that is your choice.

Also, OF COURSE you have explicitly stated the opposite many times BUT you have also STATED what I have POINTED OUT, that is; you BELIEVE you KNOW some things with absolute certainty. The proof is in YOUR words.

Then quote where I wrote that I know some things with absolute certainty.

I have ALREADY, underlined in above posts of mine.

If you still think that "definitely" meant absolute certainty then you need cognitive therapy, or you need to be locked away for good, as I already pointed out.

Until you TELL us what you meant when you wrote the word 'definetely', I will keeping thinking. If you will NOT clarify your own writings, then what do you want me to think?

Do NOT forget to clarify the 'totally' word also, which YOU have also used.

You need to lie or hurt others in order to protect your own selfish insanity, it seems.

Did I 'hurt' you?

I have clarified in detail several times in the last half year.
You ignore all that = you are lying on purpose. You do this with everyone, the conclusion is that you would rather hurt others just in order to protect your own insanity about your absolute certainty.

[Age]

Then quote where I wrote that I know some things with absolute certainty.

I have ALREADY, underlined in above posts of mine.

If you still think that "definitely" meant absolute certainty then you need cognitive therapy, or you need to be locked away for good, as I already pointed out.

Until you TELL us what you meant when you wrote the word 'definetely', I will keeping thinking. If you will NOT clarify your own writings, then what do you want me to think?

Do NOT forget to clarify the 'totally' word also, which YOU have also used.

You need to lie or hurt others in order to protect your own selfish insanity, it seems.

Did I 'hurt' you?

I have clarified in detail several times in the last half year.
You ignore all that = you are lying on purpose. You do this with everyone, the conclusion is that you would rather hurt others just in order to protect your own insanity about your absolute certainty.

Just another ATTEMPT at deflection.

By the way I have NEVER disputed that you have clarified in detail the opposite. I am just POINTING OUT that you claim one thing and then clarify, in detail, the exact opposite. As has been SHOWN here, in this forum.

Now, you can TRY your hardest to ignore this fact, for as long as you like, but your continual refusal to clarify my questions, make up utterly WRONG and completely ridiculous ASSUMPTIONS about me and my behavior is just more EVIDENCE of what you are actually doing here.