Pyramids of the Ancient Pre-Socratics as a Physicalization of Abstract Philosophical Theory

[FlashDangerpants]

Wow...I just told you a multitude of times I used both "dousing rods" and "distance" and that "I will need to measure the actual frequencies next...because it is an ongoing process".

Are you seriously telling me that when you wrote this...

Measured the electromagnetic changes as well, empirically.

You actually meant you did that with dousing rods? Like, the sticks that witchdoctors wiggle to find water.... that's your electromagnetic measuring equipment?

Have you tried putting a little pyramid on your head yet? Perhaps you should make one today. I recommend you stock up on tinfoil, as I think you will like it a lot in this configuration.

[Eodnhoj7]

Wow...I just told you a multitude of times I used both "dousing rods" and "distance" and that "I will need to measure the actual frequencies next...because it is an ongoing process".

Are you seriously telling me that when you wrote this...

Measured the electromagnetic changes as well, empirically.

You actually meant you did that with dousing rods? Like, the sticks that witchdoctors wiggle to find water.... that's your electromagnetic measuring equipment?

Have you tried putting a little pyramid on your head yet? Perhaps you should make one today. I recommend you stock up on tinfoil, as I think you will like it a lot in this configuration.

So dousing rods do not measure electro-magnetic activity...is that what you are saying?

[FlashDangerpants]

So dousing rods do not measure electro-magnetic activity...is that what you are saying?

Lol, are we referring to the sticks you have to hold just right and then they move around apparently without you doing the moving? They are reacting to minuscule tremors in the hands of the holder, which are amplified due to their unequal state of equilibrium. I'm sure metal ones would have some immeasurable antenna effect, but the shakiness of your hand would totally annihilate that, you would never find the signal through such noise. I can't believe I am trying to explain this to a grown man who thinks he's a fucking genius.

Karl Sagan had a fun story where he got some dowsers running around a field in Germany trying to find water running through underground pipes. Anyway, here's the punchline.

it proved that the law of averages works quite well, but dowsing doesn't

So I guess now we know why you were so evasive about your experimental results. Your entire experiment was actual witchcraft, just the boring sort with no brooms. You probably will sit in your triangular spooky-port-a-john and try to curse me with "elephantitis of the armpit" now.

[Arising_uk]

You're too bloody funny FDP. But it was James Randi with the German dowsers.

[Arising_uk]

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After several day's of experimentation I was able to Distort "space" in such a manner as to induce "racing thoughts", "agitation", "nerve problems", "heart problems in those with weak hearts", "paranoia", etc. ...

Or we could just put it down to them being in close physical contact with you for too long.

[Arising_uk]

... as I am currently multitasking ...

What does that involve ? Or do you just mean doing lots of things badly.

[Arising_uk]

You actually meant you did that with dousing rods? Like, the sticks that witchdoctors wiggle to find water.... that's your electromagnetic measuring equipment?
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Does this mean he gets the "technically the worst scientist ever" award now? Prof will be most upset.

[FlashDangerpants]

You actually meant you did that with dousing rods? Like, the sticks that witchdoctors wiggle to find water.... that's your electromagnetic measuring equipment?
...

Does this mean he gets the "technically the worst scientist ever" award now? Prof will be most upset.

Well the competition is heating up. But so are my eyeballs. I think Handjob7 has used his geometrical magicks to give me a severe case of combustible eyelash.

Also I am farting a lot today, he's telekinetically emproblemated my intestines

[Eodnhoj7]

So dousing rods do not measure electro-magnetic activity...is that what you are saying?

Lol, are we referring to the sticks you have to hold just right and then they move around apparently without you doing the moving? They are reacting to minuscule tremors in the hands of the holder, which are amplified due to their unequal state of equilibrium. I'm sure metal ones would have some immeasurable antenna effect, but the shakiness of your hand would totally annihilate that, you would never find the signal through such noise. I can't believe I am trying to explain this to a grown man who thinks he's a fucking genius.

Karl Sagan had a fun story where he got some dowsers running around a field in Germany trying to find water running through underground pipes. Anyway, here's the punchline.

it proved that the law of averages works quite well, but dowsing doesn't

So I guess now we know why you were so evasive about your experimental results. Your entire experiment was actual witchcraft, just the boring sort with no brooms. You probably will sit in your triangular spooky-port-a-john and try to curse me with "elephantitis of the armpit" now.

False, I can change not just position but the actual position of the object itself and they move correspondingly with the object. I can also repeat the process with a separate observer holding them.


Construction workers use them often, as well as people using water pipes...save the "labeling".

I am not looking for water, and while dousing is used to find "water" the statistics are sketchy ranging with various extremes of near perfect accuracy to none.

The question is real simple, and a simple "hand movement" does not account as a falsifiable variable, the rod's change given certain contexts (over an object, water, or "whatever") and the rod's repeat the same "change" given the introduction of the context.

Considering the rod's are made of various materials, the test's have to take into account material change (where often times they do not) as well as what is being detected.

I am not looking for "water" but rather "distortions" in an underlying field.

For example if I take a copper pipe, and stand it up vertically, the rod's change given a specific distance compared to if I leave it on the ground...why?

If I now take that same copper pipe (3/4 inch) and insert a 1/2 inch pipe (basically turning the pipe into a "fractals" or "russian mirror dolls") the results again change.

If I wrap the interior pipe, with wire, to introduce a spiral...it changes further.

etc... considering the primary grounds being tested are this:

I am applying recursive fractals as the foundation to the structure and the surround "field" changes when using a set of dowsing rods as a primitive test parameter. The tests are repeatable, hence not only arguing for a "repitition through time" but necessitating this same "recurssion" I am grounding the distortion of space on is the same recursion (repeated results in time) that science is founded on.

The framework is inseparable from the results.

[FlashDangerpants]

So dousing rods do not measure electro-magnetic activity...is that what you are saying?

Lol, are we referring to the sticks you have to hold just right and then they move around apparently without you doing the moving? They are reacting to minuscule tremors in the hands of the holder, which are amplified due to their unequal state of equilibrium. I'm sure metal ones would have some immeasurable antenna effect, but the shakiness of your hand would totally annihilate that, you would never find the signal through such noise. I can't believe I am trying to explain this to a grown man who thinks he's a fucking genius.

Karl Sagan had a fun story where he got some dowsers running around a field in Germany trying to find water running through underground pipes. Anyway, here's the punchline.

it proved that the law of averages works quite well, but dowsing doesn't

So I guess now we know why you were so evasive about your experimental results. Your entire experiment was actual witchcraft, just the boring sort with no brooms. You probably will sit in your triangular spooky-port-a-john and try to curse me with "elephantitis of the armpit" now.

False, I can change not just position but the actual position of the object itself and they move correspondingly with the object. I can also repeat the process with a separate observer holding them.

If it were actually false, you would be able to do that experiment with the rods on flotation devices in a bowl of water, and let the voodoo move them. Like an ancient compass, an object with magical appearances in its day, but an actual underlying force to move the object.

The reason you can recreate this only with a person holding them is because it is the person that moves them, in the manner I described for you already.

The question is real simple, and a simple "hand movement" does not account as a falsifiable variable, the rod's change given certain contexts (over an object, water, or "whatever") and the rod's repeat the same "change" given the introduction of the context.

A bit like Tinkerbell, the effect somehow exists only when being observed by believers.

Considering the rod's are made of various materials, the test's have to take into account material change (where often times they do not) as well as what is being detected.

Ahh, the perfect science - entirely unfalsifiable. You have given yourself an excuse to exclude all negative results. So from a random set, if you exclude every result that doesn't suit your needs, you get a 100% success rate.

[Eodnhoj7]

Lol, are we referring to the sticks you have to hold just right and then they move around apparently without you doing the moving? They are reacting to minuscule tremors in the hands of the holder, which are amplified due to their unequal state of equilibrium. I'm sure metal ones would have some immeasurable antenna effect, but the shakiness of your hand would totally annihilate that, you would never find the signal through such noise. I can't believe I am trying to explain this to a grown man who thinks he's a fucking genius.

Karl Sagan had a fun story where he got some dowsers running around a field in Germany trying to find water running through underground pipes. Anyway, here's the punchline.


So I guess now we know why you were so evasive about your experimental results. Your entire experiment was actual witchcraft, just the boring sort with no brooms. You probably will sit in your triangular spooky-port-a-john and try to curse me with "elephantitis of the armpit" now.

False, I can change not just position but the actual position of the object itself and they move correspondingly with the object. I can also repeat the process with a separate observer holding them.

If it were actually false, you would be able to do that experiment with the rods on flotation devices in a bowl of water, and let the voodoo move them. Like an ancient compass, an object with magical appearances in its day, but an actual underlying force to move the object.

The reason you can recreate this only with a person holding them is because it is the person that moves them, in the manner I described for you already.

The question is real simple, and a simple "hand movement" does not account as a falsifiable variable, the rod's change given certain contexts (over an object, water, or "whatever") and the rod's repeat the same "change" given the introduction of the context.

A bit like Tinkerbell, the effect somehow exists only when being observed by believers.

Considering the rod's are made of various materials, the test's have to take into account material change (where often times they do not) as well as what is being detected.

Ahh, the perfect science - entirely unfalsifiable. You have given yourself an excuse to exclude all negative results. So from a random set, if you exclude every result that doesn't suit your needs, you get a 100% success rate.

False.

The tests on dousing rods do not take into account materials, hence test parameters only prove themselves and not a universal truth about dousing rods. If x materials are tested, then test applies to x materials...period.

Second the observer causing them to move is falsified when taking into account (observing up close) hand movement. No movement in hand, then a problem in justifying an psychomotor response as the cause occurs.

I claim, if copper is bent... the dousing rods follow them...and everyone freaks out.

[FlashDangerpants]

I claim, if copper is bent... the dousing rods follow them...and everyone freaks out.

There's an easy way for you to prove it. Put the dousing rod on a piece of wood floating in a bowl of water. Then move the pyramid, which you already told us is small enough to be easily mobile. When the rod follows the pyramid around, you win. Obviously you know what materials to use for the rod, and the only reason this hasn't worked for anyone else is that they used bad dowsing rods.

Otherwise, the rod isn't moved by the pyramid at all, it was being moved by your hands all along. Which is true, we all know it, even you know it.

[Eodnhoj7]

I claim, if copper is bent... the dousing rods follow them...and everyone freaks out.

There's an easy way for you to prove it. Put the dousing rod on a piece of wood floating in a bowl of water. Then move the pyramid, which you already told us is small enough to be easily mobile. When the rod follows the pyramid around, you win. Obviously you know what materials to use for the rod, and the only reason this hasn't worked for anyone else is that they used bad dowsing rods.

Otherwise, the rod isn't moved by the pyramid at all, it was being moved by your hands all along. Which is true, we all know it, even you know it.

The rods are directed towards water...construction companies use them to find under ground water pipes.

So what you are saying is that I should put the rod in the same substance it detects? ROFL!!!!!! And please tell me the rationale behind why this "framework" is pure?

You have to keep in mind the framework is strictly an extension of the observer's rationale, if the observer is irrational so is the framework.

Proof is strictly a framework of relations...that is it. As a framework of relations it is inherently tied to the reasoning of the observer.

You also have to keep in mind that having the rod up compared to laying on its side as a change in the variables.

I have a simple idea. Just get a bowl of water, take to pieces of copper wire and bend them into 90 degree angles and see if they cross over the bowl of water, while either having a lose grip or having the wires in tubes. The rods point straight out, put them over a bowl of water and they cross...leave and they uncross.

Go do it yourself or Google someone doing it.

This coming from a guy who a year ago wanted to stroke my co"k...

Honestly just shut the fu"k up at this point....

1 "Derr....put them in a bowl of water"

2 "Uhh...they detect water"

1 "Trust me I having a feeling about how objective this is".

2 "They go off over water, just get a bowl and do it yourself."

1 "I know what I am doing because I say so."

ROFL!!!!!!

[Eodnhoj7]

I claim, if copper is bent... the dousing rods follow them...and everyone freaks out.

There's an easy way for you to prove it. Put the dousing rod on a piece of wood floating in a bowl of water. Then move the pyramid, which you already told us is small enough to be easily mobile. When the rod follows the pyramid around, you win. Obviously you know what materials to use for the rod, and the only reason this hasn't worked for anyone else is that they used bad dowsing rods.

Otherwise, the rod isn't moved by the pyramid at all, it was being moved by your hands all along. Which is true, we all know it, even you know it.

You do understand I posted an article stating that standard academia is agreeing the pyramids create electromagneticism right?

ROFL!!!!!!

[FlashDangerpants]

I claim, if copper is bent... the dousing rods follow them...and everyone freaks out.

There's an easy way for you to prove it. Put the dousing rod on a piece of wood floating in a bowl of water. Then move the pyramid, which you already told us is small enough to be easily mobile. When the rod follows the pyramid around, you win. Obviously you know what materials to use for the rod, and the only reason this hasn't worked for anyone else is that they used bad dowsing rods.

Otherwise, the rod isn't moved by the pyramid at all, it was being moved by your hands all along. Which is true, we all know it, even you know it.

The rods are directed towards water...construction companies use them to find under ground water pipes.

So what you are saying is that I should put the rod in the same substance it detects? ROFL!!!!!! And please tell me the rationale behind why this "framework" is pure?

Oh dear.... in your own other words...

I am not looking for water, and while dousing is used to find "water" the statistics are sketchy ranging with various extremes of near perfect accuracy to none.

And if you aren't looking for water, then you would be using dowsing rods that are calibrated for something other than that, you after all have repeatedly told me that rods only react to the correct object if they are made of the correct materials, so just use the right materials for the test.

Or, you can use a watery rod if you like and float it in something not watery, like mercury. This shit is really very easy, try to keep a grip on yourself man.

All you have to do, is create any experiment where the dowsing rod actually dowses without being held in anyone's hands. That should be easy if they are indeed moved by forces external to the holder. If you haven't enough imagination to come up with such a test, then you really are wasting your time.

Honestly just shut the fu"k up at this point....

1 "Derr....put them in a bowl of water"

2 "Uhh...they detect water"

1 "Trust me I having a feeling about how objective this is".

2 "They go off over water, just get a bowl and do it yourself."

1 "I know what I am doing because I say so."

ROFL!!!!!!

You're falling apart and losing your shit.

You do understand I posted an article stating that standard academia is agreeing the pyramids create electromagneticism right?

You misunderstood it very badly then. They ran computerised simulations to model the expected effect of the pyramid on a specific set of wavelengths using entirely standard knowledge and a computer. It's sort of click bait science, and there wasn't even a hint of the pyramids generating anything at all. They also didn't mention anything about cardinal directions.