Mathematics ends in contradiction:6 reasons

[surreptitious57]

What size does local cosmic expansion relate to ?
How do you define / explain the words local cosmic expansion ?
What IS or is in the Multiverse ? What is It made up of / look like ?
Why did the words ALL THERE IS which were once used for and to describe
the word Universe which used to be the one and only Universe now change ?

The size of this Universe which is I4 billion years in time / 46 billion light years in distance
Everything that has been happening for the last I4 billion years within this Universe
Other Universes exist in the Multiverse / what they look like is completely unknown
They changed because the idea of the Multiverse came into existence within physics

[Age]

When the so called old Universe dies what happens to ALL the physical parts ?

Not ALL the physical parts will remain after heat death occurs and a maximum state of entropy has been reached

Okay. (You are aware that you do sound like that you do KNOW what will happen in the future right?)

Anyway, if NOT all the physical parts will remain after heat death occurs and a maximum state of entropy has been reached, then that means SOME physical parts will remain.

Now, what do you call this "place" where there are still some physical parts remaining?

When EXACTLY does one "universe' supposedly die and another one supposedly begin?

What is the differential line/demarcation between the two?

What will remain will be some energy but it will be insufficient to do any work which is why the Universe will die

Okay. But without sufficient energy HOW will a supposed "new" universe begin?

[surreptitious57]

What I also am now wondering is if a person THINKS some thing is true and how much this could hinder a truly open discussion or not at all

I avoid having a fixed opinion on anything at all unless the thing in question can be demonstrated to be true or false
I am surrounded by people who know way more than me and so that is another reason why I avoid absolute certainty

[Age]

And when a so called new Universe is born where or what did it come from ?

Did it not come from the energy that was left over from the heat death of the old Universe ?

I have NO idea. This is certainly NOT my view/story of things.

Also, did you not just say that what will remain will be some energy but this will be insufficient to do any work?

It definitely did not come from a singularity since they are forbidden by Quantum Mechanics

Is that definitely True, or again just some thing you read?

"You" come across as though you KNOW this to be an absolute True fact, which could NOT be refuted.

Does quantum mechanics have/hold thee answer to EVERY thing?

Has quantum mechanics EVER been WRONG about ANY thing?

[surreptitious57]

You are aware that you do sound like that you do KNOW what will happen in the future right ?

But I do not KNOW what will happen in the future as I have already told you before so why mention this ?
I am only going on the very limited knowledge that I have so I am not claiming to know what will happen

I know very little so it might be a good idea for you to stop reading my posts and asking me any more questions
Because I cannot give you any definitive answers so why not ask them of others here who know more than me ?

[Age]

The MORE this is LOOKED AT and the more Honesty and Openness is used to answer these
questions then the quicker the actual and real Truth will come to light and thus will be KNOWN

Patience is both a virtue and a necessity with regard to matters cosmological

Patience is NOT really needed at all with regards to matters cosmological, because the Truth is HERE for ALL to SEE.

Truth will reveal itself when it is ready to not when human beings want it to

But the Truth can only be SEEN by those who are OPEN to It.

The Truth is NOT some thing that is able to make DECISIONS and decide when it will or will NOT do some thing, like revealing Its Self.

I agree though that the Truth is NOT revealed to human beings when they WANT it. If this was the case, then human beings would have SEEN the Truth many years ago.

The Truth is only available to those who are Truly Honest, naturally.

[surreptitious57]

You come across as though you KNOW this to be an absolute True fact which could NOT be refuted

Once again you say this about me and once again I have to correct you so why do you keep doing this ?
I know very little and have told you twice now in this thread alone so why do you keep implying I do ?

[Age]

Why is this so ?

Nothing cannot exist eternally so there has to be something instead

Well that is OBVIOUS. The words in front of those eyes, confirm this. However, I did NOT ask 'why is this so?' to what you now write.

I asked, 'Why is this so?' to: What follows has to be something as states of absolute nothing cannot persist and that thing will have to be another Universe

You have just, sort of, repeated the same thing. However, 'nothing existing eternally' is different from a 'state of absolutely nothing (after a death of a Universe) can not persist'?

Just saying "nothing cannot exist eternally so there has to be something instead" does NOT answer the question I asked.

My question IS Why can a state of absolute nothing persist AFTER the death of a Universe?

And that something has to be a new Universe coming into existence

If a new so called "intelligent" species comes into existence with this so called "new" "Universe", then they might call "It" some thing else, therefore, that "something" which supposedly "came" into existence, from which this new species has evolved from, does NOT have to be a new Universe. If "they" call "It" something else, then that "something" is NOT a new Universe at all.

Are you really SURE that this is HOW things WILL happen?

By the way WHERE did the 'Multiverse' come from?

[surreptitious57]

Now what do you call this place where there are still some physical parts remaining ?

When EXACTLY does one universe supposedly die and another one supposedly begin ?

What is the differential line / demarcation between the two ?

I do not know if there is a name for such a place / but what would it be if there was one ?
Is there an EXACT point in time between one Universe dying and one other one beginning ?
Is there a demarcation line between the two ? Is it as simple as that or is it more complex ?

[surreptitious57]

Why cannot a state of absolute nothing persist AFTER the death of a Universe ?

Can a state of nothing persist beyond the infinitesimal after the death of a Universe or anything else ?
If it can then what would actually be stopping this state from being violated by quantum fluctuations ?

[Age]

What evidence is there that absolute nothing can NOT persist ?

And what evidence is there that a state of absolute nothing has even existed or ever would exist ?

Quantum fluctuations violate such a state and so cause virtual particles to come into existence

So what?

What is 'quantum fluctuations' in relation to thee Truth of things?

Also, if 'quantum fluctuations' cause virtual particles to come into existence, WHERE do 'quantum fluctuations' come from?

And, are you TRYING TO suggest that if any thing causes virtual particle to come into existence that that means these VIRTUAL particles came from NOTHING?

Absolute nothing is a temporary quantum state that can only exist for a very infinitesimal time

Is this some thing else you read?

I wonder how any human being came to arrive at a such a conclusion like this one.

What EVIDENCE is there that there could even possibly be 'a state of absolute nothing'?

Even your OWN words above in other posts have contradicted your OWN words here now. You said that some particle exist when the Universe dies, so when is there supposed to be 'absolute nothing'?

Just in this one post you have contradicted what you have said. You said that 'quantum fluctuations' violate such 'a state of absolute nothing' but then said that 'absolute nothing is a TEMPORARY quantum state'. So, which one is it?

[surreptitious57]

If a new so called intelligent species comes into existence with this so called new Universe then they might call It some thing else therefore
that something which supposedly came into existence from which this new species has evolved from does NOT have to be a new Universe
If they call It something else then that something is NOT a new Universe at all

The meaning is what is important not the label

[Age]

But if there are states of absolute nothing as you just implied there are then that would also imply that there is
nothing existing so HOW can Existence be eternal ? If there is absolutely nothing existing then what IS Existence Itself ?

By definition the word Existence at least implies some thing existing correct ?

Absolute nothing is a state can only exist at the quantum level but not the classical one

What is the difference?

A vacuum state is the nearest thing to absolute nothing that could exist at the classical

What is the difference between 'absolute nothing' and 'a vacuum state'?

[Age]

So why NOT just say multiverse instead

I prefer Universe despite the obvious confusion

Okay, fair enough. Not very helpful, but so be it.

[surreptitious57]

What is quantum fluctuations in relation to thee Truth of things

Do you think quantum fluctuations should provide Truth ?
What is this thing called Truth and why mention it here ?