Do you think you know that the Moon exists?

[Logik]

No need to worry, son, it was just an innocent question. You can't answer it? Don't answer it and no more "complex" decision problem.
But you ain't going to change my question.
EB

Bonehead. A question is a request for information.

You are requesting some piece of information that may or may not be in my head.
I am perfectly happy to fulfill your request just as soon as you clarify which piece of information it is that you are looking for.

I am not trying to change your question. I am trying to understand it, and to do that I need to understand the need which drives your question.

Do you understand the need which drives your question? If yes - then explain it!

I am literally doing everything in my power to help you help yourself and you are telling me how "innocent" your question is.
However innocent - it's incredibly ambiguous!

Is it your intention for your question to be ambiguous?

[Speakpigeon]

But you ain't going to change my question.

Bonehead. A question is a request for information. You are requesting some piece of information that may or may not be in my head. I am perfectly happy to fulfill your request just as soon as you clarify which piece of information it is that you are looking for. I am not trying to change your question. I am trying to understand it, and to do that I need to understand the need which drives your question. Do you understand the need which drives your question? If yes - then explain it! I am literally doing everything in my power to help you help yourself and you are telling me how "innocent" your question is. However innocent - it's incredibly ambiguous! Is it your intention for your question to be ambiguous?

It was my intention to frame my question as I did.
I'm interested in answers to this question, not answers to a different question.
And I only care for answers from people who understand the question.
So, I don't care whatever you may want to say if you don't understand this very simple question.
In other words, take it or leave it.
Yeah, I know, what does that even mean!!!
EB

[Logik]

It was my intention to frame my question as I did.

Ambiguously?

I'm interested in answers to this question, not answers to a different question.

Different people will interpret your question differently.

If I interpret the question differently to you then you are going to get an answer to a different question irrespective of your interest.

And I only care for answers from people who understand the question.

People who understand the question; OR people who understand the question the same way as you understand the question?

I understand the question in 8 different ways and I can't quite be sure whether any of those 8 interpretations are the one you meant.

Which is why I am telling you that your question is ambiguous. If that was your intention - congratulations!

So, I don't care whatever you may want to say if you don't understand this very simple question.
In other words, take it or leave it.
Yeah, I know, what does that even mean!!!
EB

Observe that you conveniently ignored my question.

What is the need driving your question?

[henry quirk]

Do you think you know that the Moon exists?

I know the moon exists (and I know I know the moon exists [and I know I know I know the moon exists {and I know I know I know I know the moon exists}]).

[Logik]

Do you think you know that the Moon exists?

I know the moon exists (and I know I know the moon exists [and I know I know I know the moon exists {and I know I know I know I know the moon exists}]).

Lets have some fun!!!

https://repl.it/repls/HarmfulDistinctSlope

A = 'I know '
B = 'The Moon exists.'
C = 400

for i in range(C):
for p in range(i):
print(A, end='')
print(B)

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[henry quirk]

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[Speakpigeon]

Do you think you know that the Moon exists?

I know the moon exists (and I know I know the moon exists [and I know I know I know the moon exists {and I know I know I know I know the moon exists}]).

Ok, so do you think you can justify your claim that you know that the Moon exists?
Or do you think you just know it and there's no justification to be had?
EB

[Speakpigeon]

It was my intention to frame my question as I did.

Ambiguously?

???
It's not framed ambiguously at all.
If you think it's been framed ambiguously, please prove it.

I'm interested in answers to this question, not answers to a different question.

Different people will interpret your question differently.

So what?
Human beings are equipped to to deal with this problem.

If I interpret the question differently to you then you are going to get an answer to a different question irrespective of your interest.

No, there's just one question and it's for all to see.
It's not possible to answer to a different question.

And I only care for answers from people who understand the question.

I understand the question in 8 different ways and I can't quite be sure whether any of those 8 interpretations are the one you meant.

I don't care if you don't understand the question.

In other words, take it or leave it.

Observe that you conveniently ignored my question.

I don't care about your question. This thread is about my question. If you want you can start a thread about your own question.
EB

[Logik]

It's not framed ambiguously at all.
If you think it's been framed ambiguously, please prove it.

1+1=2

Therefore your question is framed ambiguously.

So what?
Human beings are equipped to to deal with this problem.

Or really?

What equipment in your brain lets you determine that I have answered a different yet/no question than the one you asked?

No, there's just one question and it's for all to see.
It's not possible to answer to a different question.

One question. Many meanings.

I don't care if you don't understand the question.

But since I understand it in 8 different ways, do you care 8 times more?

This thread is about my question.

Then why are you sabotaging my attempts at answering it?!?!

[henry quirk]

"Ok, so do you think you can justify your claim that you know that the Moon exists?"

Yep.

1-I'm too friggin' dumb to be dreamin' up Reality, so I conclude Reality (all the 'things' around me) exists outside of me, independent of me.

2-Havin' been alive for 56 years and in all that time havin' been able to physically navigate through the world that exists outside of me without offin' myself, I conclude my senses convey reasonably accurate information about Reality and 'things' in Reality.

3-Various examples of 'things' hanging in or movin' through the sky are apparent to me and how these 'things' hang in or move through the sky are consistent with my experience of the world (apprehended directly and adopted), that is: birds, clouds, kites, planes, sun, stars, moon, etc. all fall within a coherent framework.

4-Havin' worked at the John C. Stennis Space Center and havin' watched (felt it in my bones) shuttle engines tested, I know the technology exists, should I ever doubt the moon's reality, to get my ass up and out so I can see the moon up close, touch its dead surface, and then look back on the earth and give it the finger.

[Speakpigeon]

"Ok, so do you think you can justify your claim that you know that the Moon exists?"

Yep.

1-I'm too friggin' dumb to be dreamin' up Reality, so I conclude Reality (all the 'things' around me) exists outside of me, independent of me.

2-Havin' been alive for 56 years and in all that time havin' been able to physically navigate through the world that exists outside of me without offin' myself, I conclude my senses convey reasonably accurate information about Reality and 'things' in Reality.

3-Various examples of 'things' hanging in or movin' through the sky are apparent to me and how these 'things' hang in or move through the sky are consistent with my experience of the world (apprehended directly and adopted), that is: birds, clouds, kites, planes, sun, stars, moon, etc. all fall within a coherent framework.

4-Havin' worked at the John C. Stennis Space Center and havin' watched (felt it in my bones) shuttle engines tested, I know the technology exists, should I ever doubt the moon's reality, to get my ass up and out so I can see the moon up close, touch its dead surface, and then look back on the earth and give it the finger.

Hey, you seem normal, what are you doing here?!
So, good marks for your explanation. Very convincing.
Now, can you explain what difference you make, if any, between knowing and believing? How can you tell something is actual knowledge rather than just a very convincing delusion or belief?
EB

[Speakpigeon]

It's not framed ambiguously at all.
If you think it's been framed ambiguously, please prove it.

1+1=2
Therefore your question is framed ambiguously.

Non-sequitur.

So what? Human beings are equipped to to deal with this problem.

Or really? What equipment in your brain lets you determine that I have answered a different yet/no question than the one you asked?

Ask a brain scientist?

No, there's just one question and it's for all to see. It's not possible to answer to a different question.

One question. Many meanings.

You're at fault if you can't settle for one meaning.

I don't care if you don't understand the question.

But since I understand it in 8 different ways, do you care 8 times more?

Your problem.

This thread is about my question.

Then why are you sabotaging my attempts at answering it?!?!

Are you planning to behead President Trump with your cutter, kill millions with your virus and overthrow the American government?!
Maybe somebody should call the FBI.
EB

[Impenitent]

Keith is dead...

-Imp

[henry quirk]

"Hey, you seem normal, what are you doing here?!"

HA!

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"So, good marks for your explanation. Very convincing."

Another Nobel for me!

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"Now, can you explain what difference you make, if any, between knowing and believing? How can you tell something is actual knowledge rather than just a very convincing delusion or belief?"

There's a thin line between believing and knowing and, like anyone, I'm as liable to be on one side as the other. Mebbe credibility is a decent, but not universal, criteria. For example, I know the moon exists and I know it ain't made of cheese. Credibility probably applies to (most) questions of sanity too: 'I can get to the moon by rocket' is sane; 'I can get to the moon by flatulence' is sumthin' else.

Knowing is probably reason, experience in equal parts (with a dash of belief for spice).

[henry quirk]

HA!