attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:09 am
Yes, I really enjoyed Falling Down too. I've just looked up The Pledge on WIKI and like you stated - it was poor at the box office, but the critical response was very positive (downloading it now!)
so, what did you think of the movie - via torrent

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I thought The Pledge was in the top 20 or so of all time.
why? - many reasons:
1. main character - Jack Nickolson's character - name forget - is a good guy, ended up taking one last case prior to retire.................this movie is subtle (all about Gray - Nickolson is a nice guy, but he makes 2 mistakes (as all good guys like you a me - unless they are wiser to not fk themselves).
mistake #1 of Jack's character (who i like at first - not so much later (again this is a "smart movie" about "Character decay" if one lets themselves degrade over obsessions.)) is he makes a promise he cannot keep (he feels for the mother of the killed kid - i understand (as the audience) - but it was a promise anyone forcing reason over emotion, would know one that cannot be made and should not be made.
He making that promise, forced the obsession to solve crime/fullfill promise - to put his girlfriend's kid (Robin Wright) in danger!
for this IMO though have sympathy - lost some of it (as I did in No Country for Old Men) - where Josh Brolin stumbles upon a bag of money/and a gut shot mexican..........takes the money (does not call an ambulance..lamely returns with water for a now dead mex - ok Josh showed his colors (like Nicholson in his role/film) - ignoring "right thing to do" at the time.
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otherthing about "the Pledge" (BTW "Oliver" is the Pedokiller - you will have a paned short clip of him - 50 something - when he is called by retarded niece/sister).
No, not "justice by man"......is done.
instead.
"Oliver" dies loved, no-one knew (outside of Oliver of course)
"Oliver" was killed by Logging Truck/God? too ------- no matter which HE IS KILLED - and HE WAS A FEDOKILLER - AND HE IS NEVER EXPOSED (to men - to God? - yes if He Exists).
Jack Nickelson is fucked! - because Oliver is killed (via traffic accident - and "no-one ever knew (nor ever will!!!!!!!!! (i love this movie's mindset here - it all there! (anti-"virtue signaling" - God/fate takes out a monster and none notice! - and can no longer vendicate Jack in this stance of putting a girl in danger to catch a killer.
God/fate killed the killer via the logging truck.........Jack is discraced and goes insane and never knows the monsters died.................but he allowed his obcession to endanger the girl.
so forfieted the right to a good end personally (as in the case of No Country for Old Men).
another excellent movie - with similar characters, likeable, but make choices that forfeit their moral high ground.