RESPECTING OTHER PEOPLE'S VIEWS.

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Wearily, and with great reluctance, Nick_A hoist himself back up onto his cross...
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:12 pm
Belinda wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:48 pm The respect that I give is relative to my own prejudices. I am prejudiced against fascist, dogmatic, conceited, and extreme right-wing views .

There is discussion to be had about whether people who might stir up fascist, dogmatic, or extreme right wing feeling ought to be excluded from online or real life venues where vulnerable people might read them or hear them.
Said like a true fascist. It shouldn't matter at all what anyone says, as long as others have the capacity to think critically and question everything.
Don't agree with the fascist insult! She is entitled to her opinion.. But I do agree with everything else you said!
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Davyboi wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:13 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:12 pm
Belinda wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:48 pm The respect that I give is relative to my own prejudices. I am prejudiced against fascist, dogmatic, conceited, and extreme right-wing views .

There is discussion to be had about whether people who might stir up fascist, dogmatic, or extreme right wing feeling ought to be excluded from online or real life venues where vulnerable people might read them or hear them.
Said like a true fascist. It shouldn't matter at all what anyone says, as long as others have the capacity to think critically and question everything.
Don't agree with the fascist insult! She is entitled to her opinion.. But I do agree with everything else you said!
As I am to mine. Stop being such a snowflake...
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:30 pm
Davyboi wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:13 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:12 pm

Said like a true fascist. It shouldn't matter at all what anyone says, as long as others have the capacity to think critically and question everything.
Don't agree with the fascist insult! She is entitled to her opinion.. But I do agree with everything else you said!
As I am to mine. Stop being such a snowflake...
Haha! Yes you are entitled to your opinion, and point taken maybe I am being a bit snowflakey, I'm not practicing what I preach!
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Davyboi wrote:
Belinda! Who do you categories as vulnerable?? Are there specific boxes that say someone is classed as vulnerable? Because I personally think everyone has or is vulnerable at some point or area of their live...better to be decieved, and learn.

Children and many young people. Also those persons who are uninformed plus disenchanted with the society which they perceive has let them down. For instance Daesh recruits persons like the latter whom I describe.
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Belinda wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:14 pm Davyboi wrote:
Belinda! Who do you categories as vulnerable?? Are there specific boxes that say someone is classed as vulnerable? Because I personally think everyone has or is vulnerable at some point or area of their live...better to be decieved, and learn.

Children and many young people. Also those persons who are uninformed plus disenchanted with the society which they perceive has let them down. For instance Daesh recruits persons like the latter whom I describe.
That's sounds exactly like everyone on this planet, uniformed and disenchantment with the society! These people you describe are you, me and everyone!
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Belinda wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:48 pm The respect that I give is relative to my own prejudices. I am prejudiced against fascist, dogmatic, conceited, and extreme right-wing views .
Such prejudices of yours are leading to dogmatism and bigotry, e.g. how come you did not mention above-average and extreme left-wing views??
This is where Buddhism [& others] Middle-Way is pragmatic and optimal, i.e. not veering towards any extreme side.
There is discussion to be had about whether people who might stir up fascist, dogmatic, or extreme right wing feeling ought to be excluded from online or real life venues where vulnerable people might read them or hear them.
I am for freedom of speech up to the highest optimal point.
With that what we need is to inculcate heavy critical thinking and open to unimpeded criticisms of ALL and EVERY views.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking

What is happening at present is from the left-wing towards the extreme-left where there is very aggressive and violent actions taken to silence opposing views online [even in this forum], real life venues and everywhere. Meanwhile the majority of left-wingers are complicit to this evil by keeping silent. This is intellectual cowardice from intellectual bastards.

Attention and criticisms should be directed at ALL sources of evil and violent acts. However one very significant source of terror, evil and violence is from one single ideology, i.e. that of Islam.

In terms of real empirically evident evil and violent acts committed by SOME evil prone Muslims, humanity at present must subject the ideology of Islam [Quran and core] to heavy unimpeded criticisms and to trace to the root causes.

However, the cowardice from the left and other apologists is; even the slightest critiques of the ideology of Islam is countered with physical, verbal aggression and threat of violence & death. The fact is these cowards have been cowered by the effective strategy of Islamist in using terror [divinely ordained] to terrorize the mind of those cowards subliminally.

What is so sickening with the left-wing is; they rhetorically influence and brainwash their members to interpret critical thinking and criticisms as hatred, racists, bigotry, fascist, and the most contemptible acts.
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Belinda wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:14 pm Davyboi wrote:
Belinda! Who do you categories as vulnerable?? Are there specific boxes that say someone is classed as vulnerable? Because I personally think everyone has or is vulnerable at some point or area of their live...better to be decieved, and learn.

Children and many young people. Also those persons who are uninformed plus disenchanted with the society which they perceive has let them down. For instance Daesh recruits persons like the latter whom I describe.
Hmm. Much better to take away our free speech (the first thing a fascist Govt. does btw) than to stop bombing their countries. I am sure a young muslim is much more like to become 'radical' if he is insulted than if his family has been blown to smithereens.
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Davyboi wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:05 pm I don't know walker, but because of your post I have looked at his posts, you kinda got a point...nice guy tho...I have friends like that, not as intelligent! Lol...who blindly follow there religion...really pisses me off! It's a hate/love relationship for me with these types of people, I admire them for their stubborness, their sheer unwavering commitment..but also hate the fact they Carnt accept what is scientifically proven...I find it easier not to dwell too much, because it drives me nuts..lol...then again that could just be me! Lol
What you don't know is a lot.

Everything is a gift, even if capacity only manages to replace critique of concepts, principles and events, with the personal critique.

Look at the faces on you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuH8K9vhKSU

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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:55 am
Belinda wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:48 pm The respect that I give is relative to my own prejudices. I am prejudiced against fascist, dogmatic, conceited, and extreme right-wing views .
Such prejudices of yours are leading to dogmatism and bigotry, e.g. how come you did not mention above-average and extreme left-wing views??
This is where Buddhism [& others] Middle-Way is pragmatic and optimal, i.e. not veering towards any extreme side.
There is discussion to be had about whether people who might stir up fascist, dogmatic, or extreme right wing feeling ought to be excluded from online or real life venues where vulnerable people might read them or hear them.
I am for freedom of speech up to the highest optimal point.
With that what we need is to inculcate heavy critical thinking and open to unimpeded criticisms of ALL and EVERY views.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking

What is happening at present is from the left-wing towards the extreme-left where there is very aggressive and violent actions taken to silence opposing views online [even in this forum], real life venues and everywhere. Meanwhile the majority of left-wingers are complicit to this evil by keeping silent. This is intellectual cowardice from intellectual bastards.

Attention and criticisms should be directed at ALL sources of evil and violent acts. However one very significant source of terror, evil and violence is from one single ideology, i.e. that of Islam.

In terms of real empirically evident evil and violent acts committed by SOME evil prone Muslims, humanity at present must subject the ideology of Islam [Quran and core] to heavy unimpeded criticisms and to trace to the root causes.

However, the cowardice from the left and other apologists is; even the slightest critiques of the ideology of Islam is countered with physical, verbal aggression and threat of violence & death. The fact is these cowards have been cowered by the effective strategy of Islamist in using terror [divinely ordained] to terrorize the mind of those cowards subliminally.

What is so sickening with the left-wing is; they rhetorically influence and brainwash their members to interpret critical thinking and criticisms as hatred, racists, bigotry, fascist, and the most contemptible acts.
It is your fault but you don't realize it. the Left consists of right thinkers who love peace while the Right consists of wrong thinkers who oppose peace. Karl Marx explains why
"The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."
See how simple it is. it has all been decided by experts. By criticizing the left you are opposing peace. All is not lost. You still can become an educated peace loving right thinker.
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Nick_A wrote: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:24 am See how simple it is. it has all been decided by experts. By criticizing the left you are opposing peace. All is not lost. You still can become an educated peace loving right thinker.
Strawman!

I proposed both left and right wings should avoid their respective extreme.

At present I am personally effected by the left [not the real peace loving ones] but those who are against free speech and criticisms of the evil elements of Islam. Btw, are you in the same boat as these who condemn any criticisms of Islam as bigotry, racist, islamophobe?
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Veritas Aequitas wrote:

Belinda wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:48 pm
The respect that I give is relative to my own prejudices. I am prejudiced against fascist, dogmatic, conceited, and extreme right-wing views .


(Reply from VA)Such prejudices of yours are leading to dogmatism and bigotry, e.g. how come you did not mention above-average and extreme left-wing views??
This is where Buddhism [& others] Middle-Way is pragmatic and optimal, i.e. not veering towards any extreme side.

Sometimes we have to hold to to our extreme views. Sometimes we have to fight a just war. Sometimes bad people have to be prevented spreading their hate and greed. Would a Buddhist let their child listen to a confirmed predator?
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If only folks could listen to unicorns, forever and ever.

Face Buddhism by facing facts.

Humans are predators.

In fact science says, super predators.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science- ... 180956348/
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Nick_A wrote: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:24 am See how simple it is. it has all been decided by experts. By criticizing the left you are opposing peace. All is not lost. You still can become an educated peace loving right thinker.
Oh, Nick_A. You overcomplicate things. Things are much simpler than that.

What you do, is what each true Republican Christian does: you kill your own children, by crucifiction if possible like your God did, and then eat them.

The sweet-and-schmaltzy Liberals can sing their peacenick songs and make love and wear flowers in their hair... the fools. They don't realize that Armageddon is only survived by those who are first and foremost American, who subscribe to true American values, and who have a bunker under the bedroom, a nuclear silo in the barn, and a prayer book by their bedside... or else, simply quote Simon Weir, Socrates or Einstein every time they turn around.
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-1- wrote: Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:49 pm
Nick_A wrote: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:24 am See how simple it is. it has all been decided by experts. By criticizing the left you are opposing peace. All is not lost. You still can become an educated peace loving right thinker.
Oh, Nick_A. You overcomplicate things. Things are much simpler than that.

What you do, is what each true Republican Christian does: you kill your own children, by crucifiction if possible like your God did, and then eat them.

The sweet-and-schmaltzy Liberals can sing their peacenick songs and make love and wear flowers in their hair... the fools. They don't realize that Armageddon is only survived by those who are first and foremost American, who subscribe to true American values, and who have a bunker under the bedroom, a nuclear silo in the barn, and a prayer book by their bedside... or else, simply quote Simon Weir, Socrates or Einstein every time they turn around.
At least we don't enjoy soup made from an aborted fetus. I know you will say why let a good abortion go to waste?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/fe ... hood-style
July 20, 2015 (POP) -- On the menu of some exclusive Chinese restaurants is an item that goes by the name of Spare Rib Soup. Very expensive, it is usually served only in the back rooms to known customers, who are willing to pay to premium for this delicacy. So what is Spare Rib Soup?

Brace yourselves.

Spare Rib Soup…. is actually a human soup, made from the bodies of aborted babies. It is regarded by the Chinese—at least some Chinese—as a rejuvenating potion. A kind of fountain of youth that will fix sagging wrinkles, grow back missing hair, and generally put a spring back in your step.
Why would I quote Simon Weir? What does he have to do with Socrates? He isn't mentioned in Plato's Republic. You're losing it.
Simon Weir is best known for playing bad boy mechanic Paul Lafferty in STV's HIGH ROAD from 1995 until 2003. He has also appeared in 6 episodes of BBC Scotland's RIVER CITY as gangster Graham MacLaverty, including the Christmas Special in 2008. He has appeared in 2 Irvine Welsh Feature Films, THE ACID HOUSE and T2 TRAINSPOTTING. Trained at the Dorothy Paul Studio from 1986 and Motherwell College, his stage work includes UK tours of KIDNAPPED as Alan Breck and SINGIN IM NO A BILLY HES A TIM as Tim. He won 'Best Acting' at the 48 Hour Film Festival in 2014.
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