Are philosophers psychopaths?

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philosopher
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Re: Are philosophers psychopaths?

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TimeSeeker wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:57 pm
creativesoul wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:38 pm Indeed. So many people have been led to believe that philosophy is useless. The term itself has a stigma attached to it now-a-days.... Sad... Orwellian... Machiavellian...

Such is what happens when one draws conclusions about all of philosophy based upon inadequate knowledge.
On the other hand - philosophers insist that it is useful, and I am still trying to discover this well-hidden utility...

There was a time when philosophers did great work in Mathematics, then the mathematicians went their own way.
There was a time when philosophers did great work in Natural Science, then the physicists went their own way.

All that was left to philosophers was logic. And computer scientists stole that from them also...
Nowadays, philosophy serves the very useful purpose of thought-exercises for lay-people.
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Re: Are philosophers psychopaths?

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philosopher wrote: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:11 am Nowadays, philosophy serves the very useful purpose of thought-exercises for lay-people.
So practicing logic/thought? Learn to program! It's free. It's useful. You get instant feedback when you make errors e.g. you get to iterate much faster than if you were to converse with a human.
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Re: Are philosophers psychopaths?

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TimeSeeker wrote: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:34 am
philosopher wrote: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:11 am Nowadays, philosophy serves the very useful purpose of thought-exercises for lay-people.
So practicing logic/thought? Learn to program! It's free. It's useful. You get instant feedback when you make errors e.g. you get to iterate much faster than if you were to converse with a human.
A lot of philosophical topics are way too complicated for lay-people to learn to code into a computer program.
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Re: Are philosophers psychopaths?

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philosopher wrote: Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:58 pm A lot of philosophical topics are way too complicated for lay-people to learn to code into a computer program.
Esoteric sophistry is not the same as complicated. As soon as you develop good sense for the scientific epistemology you begin to recognise how much of philosophy is bullshit. Lots of verbiage - little content.
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Re: Are philosophers psychopaths?

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TimeSeeker wrote: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:49 pm
philosopher wrote: Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:58 pm A lot of philosophical topics are way too complicated for lay-people to learn to code into a computer program.
Esoteric sophistry is not the same as complicated. As soon as you develop good sense for the scientific epistemology you begin to recognise how much of philosophy is bullshit. Lots of verbiage - little content.
You might say that philosophy is the manipulation of unbound variables.
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commonsense wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:16 am You might say that philosophy is the manipulation of unbound variables.
Hence the problem. Because bounding variables (limits, upper/lower bound estimates) is precisely what a good scientist knows how to do.
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Re: Are philosophers psychopaths?

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TimeSeeker wrote: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:49 pm
philosopher wrote: Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:58 pm A lot of philosophical topics are way too complicated for lay-people to learn to code into a computer program.
Esoteric sophistry is not the same as complicated. As soon as you develop good sense for the scientific epistemology you begin to recognise how much of philosophy is bullshit. Lots of verbiage - little content.
The same applies for computer programming considering with the creation of some new solution comes a problem, assuming the problem is not made up to begin with. Considering the nature of pragmatism is subject to continual change, most programming issues premised upon computation as the solution to pragmatic problems runs strictly in the same course.

Philosophy is inevitable as knowing is inevitable and defines not just the human condition but consciousness as well.
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